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Report: Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland spent hours with NFL investigator

Do any of you guys really think that Jeff Ireland spends any time in the Dolphin's locker room when these hazing rituals are happening? Also, if Ireland made a locker room visit, don't you think the players would say, "Yo fellas, knock off the hazing until the boss leaves the room."

Philbin and the coaches might witness these things, but I doubt Ireland would be privy to it. If you want to know what is happening in the Phin's locker room, you talk to the guys who wash the jocks and uniforms, or the guys who serve the food in the cafeteria.
 
NCFINFAN13 said:
Follow up from Yahoo via AP.

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-source-nfl-union-investigate-dolphins-123159846--spt.html
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'Richard Smith, outside counsel for the union in the New Orleans Saints bounty case, will investigate tackle Jonathan Martin's allegations, the person confirmed'.
Draft picks possibly being lost is a real concern to me at this point, which will cripple whoever is in charge going forward. I first thought nope but know I am thinking it's a possibility depending on what is determined with management's culpability.
 
Albert Romano said:
'Richard Smith, outside counsel for the union in the New Orleans Saints bounty case, will investigate tackle Jonathan Martin's allegations, the person confirmed'.
Draft picks possibly being lost is a real concern to me at this point, which will cripple whoever is in charge going forward. I first thought nope but know I am thinking it's a possibility depending on what is determined with management's culpability.
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It's not like we'll draft anyone worth a d@mn anyways

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I wonder if these interviews are being transcribed, deposition style? Unlike the bounty gate situation, where we didn't see the contents of the interviews, let's see these transcripts after Martin files suit. It would be nice if they became public. Courts often look at such confidentiality claims as having very dubious merit.
 
Albert Romano said:
'Richard Smith, outside counsel for the union in the New Orleans Saints bounty case, will investigate tackle Jonathan Martin's allegations, the person confirmed'.
Draft picks possibly being lost is a real concern to me at this point, which will cripple whoever is in charge going forward. I first thought nope but know I am thinking it's a possibility depending on what is determined with management's culpability.
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I haven't really said it before, but that is a big concern of mine. That we be made an example of in order to quell any allegations of sweeping this under the rug.
 
Albert Romano said:
'Richard Smith, outside counsel for the union in the New Orleans Saints bounty case, will investigate tackle Jonathan Martin's allegations, the person confirmed'.
Draft picks possibly being lost is a real concern to me at this point, which will cripple whoever is in charge going forward. I first thought nope but know I am thinking it's a possibility depending on what is determined with management's culpability.
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If draft picks are lost I can say almost with certainty that not another NFL team will ever sign Jon Martin.
 
IHATETHEJETS said:
My question is, how many people did Jeff Ireland throw under the bus to save his job.
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If he throws Martin, I hope he throws him nice and deep under the bus.

Hate bullies, hate the idea of bulling (As I have already said a few times), but it is starting to look more and more like Martin and his Mother(the true puppet master pulling the strings) are just out for a huge payday where Jonny boy will never have to work again, and to me that is even worse then bulling.
 
retarmyfinfan said:
They need to hurry up and assign blame to some people, fire them and it's done
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I choose Ireland, Martin and RI for blame and immediate dismissal. Philbin can go at the end of the season if the new GM so determines.
 
May as well leave Ireland in as a GM if we do lose draft picks. He can't draft worth a damn anyway so what would be the difference
 
Wishfishin said:
If draft picks are lost I can say almost with certainty that not another NFL team will ever sign Jon Martin.
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I don't see how we could lose draft picks over this. If you look at the Saints when they lost picks, it was because of a TEAM policy which was orchestrated by coaches who put bounties on other players, and I think they also got into hot water for "bugging" locker rooms, although I don't think this was ever proven or punished?

I think the Incognito-Martin controversy comes down to player actions, and guys taking hazing too far. Unless the coaches or GM explicitly told players to toughen up Martin by going off on him verbally, or ostracizing him from the team, you cannot say this was a team thing.

I think at worst, Incognito gets a long suspension, and maybe the Phins get put on some kind of probation by the NFL where they review what is happening in the locker room, and make sure "hazing" doesn't cross the line where there is a "hostile work place environment," or discrimination towards someone.

The Jets didn't lose draft picks when Bret Favre sent selfies of his weiner to that Jet's cheerleader :chuckle: So why should the Phins lose picks?
 
Roman529 said:
I don't see how we could lose draft picks over this. If you look at the Saints when they lost picks, it was because of a TEAM policy which was orchestrated by coaches who put bounties on other players, and I think they also got into hot water for "bugging" locker rooms, although I don't think this was ever proven or punished?

I think the Incognito-Martin controversy comes down to player actions, and guys taking hazing too far. Unless the coaches or GM explicitly told players to toughen up Martin by going off on him verbally, or ostracizing him from the team, you cannot say this was a team thing.

I think at worst, Incognito gets a long suspension, and maybe the Phins get put on some kind of probation by the NFL where they review what is happening in the locker room, and make sure "hazing" doesn't cross the line where there is a "hostile work place environment," or discrimination towards someone.

The Jets didn't lose draft picks when Bret Favre sent selfies of his weiner to that Jet's cheerleader :chuckle: So why should the Phins lose picks?
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Agreed.

And i just want to add a couple things:
1) If it comes out that the coaches/GM were instructing the players to behave a certain way, Ross is likely to clean house. The NFL has shown they will back off if the teams administer proper punishment.

2) Goodell went hard after the Saints in part because they snubbed him. Keep in mind, the league warned them to cut the crap a full year beforehand. They told the league they did then promptly went back to messing around. As well, the league was feeling heat because of the massive concussion lawsuit directed at them. The combination of personal slight and the need to make an example of them was what motivated that punishment.

If this was a team effort to go after Martin and Ross wants to keep everyone on board, the absolute worst that will happen is the league will slap Ross with a fine, take a late round pick, and suspend Ireland/Philbin/Jim Turner for a game or two. The far more likely outcome is the league will send out a memo outlining what teams can and cannot allow and hit Ross with a slight fine that will be donated to an anti-bullying group.
This controversy falls closer to teams not making any minority hires this past offseason then Bountygate. Its an embarrassment for "the shield" but not anything that will disrupt their profits. Thus, they are inclined to make an agreement that suits all parties and quickly sweep this under the carpet. The last thing they want is a public spectacle that is dragged out for years.
 
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