JTC111
Viva la resistance!!!
...in 14 years of the extra 28 teams we could have seen .500 (8-8) teams make it in
I guess that begs the question: Do .500 teams ever deserve to make the playoffs and possibly win the SB?
IMO, never.
...in 14 years of the extra 28 teams we could have seen .500 (8-8) teams make it in
Adding a WC team makes the regular season less meaningful. It also makes winning your division less meaningful since only one team of the four division winners will get a bye. It dilutes the pool of talent in the playoffs. And while it may be nice for the fans of the 7th team in to see their teams in the playoffs, the rest of us will be treated to 2nd seed vs. 7th seed games which hold less promise to be entertaining.
I guess that begs the question: Do .500 teams ever deserve to make the playoffs and possibly win the SB?
IMO, never
And an 8th seed might be better than a 7th seed in some years, and a 9th seed might be better than an 8th seed.But not that diluted from 2 seed v 6 seed.. and to be honest the 7 seed may be better than the 6th seed as you point out the Cards missed out while GB got in..
That was the reason we added the first two wildcard spots. We can use the same reasoning to add a new WC spot every year.this could help alleviate that somewhat
I dont think it is that big of a deal.. it could enhance the play offs.
When I started watching the NFL as a young lad in England in the very early 80s you had 28 teams and 10 made the playoffs. The league has expanded by 4 teams and now you have 12 of 32 teams getting in. If they move this up to 14 of 32 the ratio is still the same as the 10/28 format years ago. Lets be honest some very good 10-6 and 9-7 teams have missed out on the post season, most noteably and recent of course are the 10-6 Cards.. under the new proposed system we would have seen them play - and rightly so in my view.
I have heard it said .500 teams would get in enmasse and ruin the party.. lets look back to the year 2000 and chart team records on those who under this 14 team playoff window could have been in to gage the sort of quality we might see in the future:
2013
AFC: Steelers (8-8)
NFC: Cardinals (10-6)
2012
AFC: Steelers (8-8)
NFC: Bears (10-6)
2011
AFC: Titans (9-7)
NFC: Eagles/Bears or Cardinals (8-8)
2010
AFC: Chargers (9-7)
NFC: Giants (10-6)
2009
AFC: Texans/Steelers (9-7)
NFC: Falcons (9-7)
2008
AFC: Patriots (11-5)
NFC: Cowboys, Bears or Buccs (9-7)
2007
AFC: Browns (10-6)
NFC: Cardinals, Vikings or Eagles (8-8)
2006
AFC: Broncos (9-7)
NFC: Rams, Panthers or Packers (8-8)
2005
AFC: Chiefs (10-6)
NFC: Cowboys or Vikings (9-7)
2004
AFC: Bills, Ravens or Jaguars (9-7)
NFC: Saints (8-8)
2003
AFC: Dolphins (10-6)
NFC: Vikings (9-7)
2002
AFC: Patriots, Dolphins or Broncos (9-7)
NFC: Saints (9-7)
2001
AFC: Seahawks (9-7)
NFC: Redskins (8-8)
2000
AFC: Jets or Steelers (9-7)
NFC: Packers or Lions (9-7)
so in 14 years of the extra 28 teams we could have seen .500 (8-8) teams make it in:
2001 x 1 team
2004 x 1 team
2006 x 1 team
2007 x 1 team
2011 x 1 team
2012 x 1 team
2013 x 1 team
just 7 of 28 teams would have been at .500
I think there is more quality being left behind than admitted and I dont have an issue having a 14/32 ratio which as I stated earlier matches a 10/28 ratio we had in the 80s in terms of the number of teams left out - 18....
some folks are resistent for the pure sake of resisting.. my glass is half full folks how is yours?.. Were some of you this anti a league expansion from 28 teams? How are you with those teams now.. have you adapted.. were you ok with going from 10/28 to 12/32.. - adapted.. good.. ok now lets try 14/32 let the number 2 seed play a week earlier giving only the #1 seed the bye (and rightley so) and seeing how that works out.. if the league try to pump this up to 50% then I can see the issue, but it is still only about 40% making the post season so it's ok.. imho
That was the reason we added the first two wildcard spots. We can use the same reasoning to add a new WC spot every year
Not if the play off pool hits 50% of the teams in the NFL - no you cannot.. there has to be a ceiling and I would say taking it up to 14/32 teams is it.
Goodell is ruining a perfect product.
Why is the line 50%? Why not 40% or 60%?
I think this article on the subject is spot on.
Playoff expansion? Forget about it
There was no game this weekend in which a team looked overmatched -- no team in the playoff field that performed as though it didn't belong. The NFL should view this as a good thing. From a product-quality standpoint, it's better to risk leaving a strong team out of your playoff field than to invite weak ones into it.
Why is the line 50%? Why not 40% or 60%?
I think this article on the subject is spot on.
Playoff expansion? Forget about it
There was no game this weekend in which a team looked overmatched -- no team in the playoff field that performed as though it didn't belong. The NFL should view this as a good thing. From a product-quality standpoint, it's better to risk leaving a strong team out of your playoff field than to invite weak ones into it.
I don't understand that. with adding another team, you still have those strong teams in the playoffs. and as it's been shown, you have a 3/4 chance over the last 14 years, that another strong team will make the playoffs. if a weak team gets in, they will be eliminated. if they aren't eliminated, then they must not have been that weak...
Really ? 31 of the 32 highest rated programs this year were NFL games. I bet MLB and the NBA would love to have their product ruined.
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i think if a weak team, who might win one playoff game or two, but fall short of the super bowl, are probably a weaker team. But if they happen to make it to the super bowl, and even win, then they in fact are not a weak team, as they were able to beat "the best" teams in the league that year.
also, I think there's just as much of a chance of 2 8-8 teams making the super bowl with 6 or 7 teams...which is a VERY small chance. lol
dumb idea
Just like 35 bowl games are a complete joke.