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Looks like Rex Hadnot may end up being our best Olineman. They have him listed as one of the breakout type guys this year, for rookies and young players.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=theseguyswillbustoutonof&prov=tsn&type=lgns

He may end up being the best, I like our line this year way better than last. With a new coach and scheme and a year under their belt, I think our line this year will be several steps up. Mcintosh, James, Mckinney, Hadnot, McDougle looks like the guys, but I won't mind seeing Carey in there and I am not sure about Mckinney, if Hadnot could do Center, It would be nice to have him there and Carey and G, but we will see, anything will be better than last year!
 
It is nice to see that we arnt the only ones thinkin that about Hadnot and that it isnt just us being homers... :D

Nasty
 
i agree with that, he was a steal......wasnt much expected from him but looks like he will and has become better than Carey(who we all know drafted high and gave up more than we should have).

The good news is we are seeing the light a nd have some good OL that can control the line.
 
This is a perfect example of why people on this board don't know a G-D thing when it comes to evaluating players. Myself included.

There might have been one or two people who said, "watch this guy he's going to be a good one" but they, no doubt, were fans of Hadnot's college team. A few others saw his stats and said this guy is interesting...162 pancake blocks in one season will impress even the diehards but, even so, there was no Rex Hadnot bandwagon....and if there was, I'm sure it was a little red one, that you can buy at Wal-Mart.

Even last year there was no one overly excited about him and up until recently most mock line-ups didn't even have him listed as a starter but, now we'll hear the I-knew-it-all-alongs acting like Rex was just this hidden gem that no one wanted to talk about lest they jinx his development.

These are the things I think about when I want to say a player will or won't be any good, because this knd of stuff happens all the time. Players come from obscurity to prominence just like the train goes the other way with almost as much regularity.

Just some food for thought.
 
  • "I'd just as soon not talk about last year," Houck said. "That's somebody else. I really don't know what they were doing."
  • To me that sums up not only last season but many before it as well, it's time for many fans to move on.
  • System, scheme and coaching mean more to the offensive line position and unit than just about any other unit on the field.
  • Lets give the players the opportunity to perform under the new system and coaching.
  • Assess the development in 4 game segments and then make evaluations and revisions if required.
  • The o-line unit maybe more than any other unit will define the 2005 Dolphins.
  • Let's show some patience and let the men do their jobs.
 
inFINSible said:
there was no Rex Hadnot bandwagon....and if there was, I'm sure it was a little red one, that you can buy at Wal-Mart.
:lol::lol::lol:
Man, you sure know how to put things in perspective. Greatest analogy finheaven has seen in a while.
 
inFINSible said:
This is a perfect example of why people on this board don't know a G-D thing when it comes to evaluating players. Myself included.

There might have been one or two people who said, "watch this guy he's going to be a good one" but they, no doubt, were fans of Hadnot's college team. A few others saw his stats and said this guy is interesting...162 pancake blocks in one season will impress even the diehards but, even so, there was no Rex Hadnot bandwagon....and if there was, I'm sure it was a little red one, that you can buy at Wal-Mart.

Even last year there was no one overly excited about him and up until recently most mock line-ups didn't even have him listed as a starter but, now we'll hear the I-knew-it-all-alongs acting like Rex was just this hidden gem that no one wanted to talk about lest they jinx his development.

These are the things I think about when I want to say a player will or won't be any good, because this knd of stuff happens all the time. Players come from obscurity to prominence just like the train goes the other way with almost as much regularity.

Just some food for thought.
Isn't that the truth!. Hell pro scouts and coaches don't even know 1/2 the time. look how many 1-2 round players bomb!!. How many un-drafted players make rosters every year? Sometimes this is why I agree with Jimmy Johnson's draft philosophy. Trade down and get a s many 4,5 and 6 round picks as possible. It doesn't always work but you never know who will work and who won't
 
inFINSible said:
This is a perfect example of why people on this board don't know a G-D thing when it comes to evaluating players. Myself included.

There might have been one or two people who said, "watch this guy he's going to be a good one" but they, no doubt, were fans of Hadnot's college team. A few others saw his stats and said this guy is interesting...162 pancake blocks in one season will impress even the diehards but, even so, there was no Rex Hadnot bandwagon....and if there was, I'm sure it was a little red one, that you can buy at Wal-Mart.

Even last year there was no one overly excited about him and up until recently most mock line-ups didn't even have him listed as a starter but, now we'll hear the I-knew-it-all-alongs acting like Rex was just this hidden gem that no one wanted to talk about lest they jinx his development.

These are the things I think about when I want to say a player will or won't be any good, because this knd of stuff happens all the time. Players come from obscurity to prominence just like the train goes the other way with almost as much regularity.

Just some food for thought.

hey i always have been on the hadnot bandwagon, and i have the proof http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/showpost.php?p=862454&postcount=7

haha... but i know what you saying, people can surprise, regardless of draft pick status or prior performance...
 
popularwar said:
Considering how low he was drafted (and the lack of expectations at that level) I'd say he was a steal.


id agree with that he has turned out to be pretty nice and could be alot nicer hope he does have a break out year
 
t47c said:
Isn't that the truth!. Hell pro scouts and coaches don't even know 1/2 the time. look how many 1-2 round players bomb!!. How many un-drafted players make rosters every year? Sometimes this is why I agree with Jimmy Johnson's draft philosophy. Trade down and get a s many 4,5 and 6 round picks as possible. It doesn't always work but you never know who will work and who won't
Hadnot > Carey, so far......'nuff said...:lol:

It's a good theory and it probably works in a sense that quantity is bound to produce quality but, the hit miss ratio is much higher.

If a first or second rounder is a 50/50 proposition.....and a fourth through sixth rounder is a 25/75....then you need double the amount of picks to hit on ONE guy.

Noy only that but, the picks aren't going to be "sexy"....they aren't going to sell merchandise or seats. Not initially anyway.
 
The first time Hadnot came in, our OL looked better....

It was a very strange situation in 2004. I remember Dave announcing that T. Whitely was going to be the starting RG right before pre-season, and I almost fell out of my chair in disbelief.....

Whitely was completely dominated. It didn't take long for Hadnot to get his chance, and the minute he did, he took full advantage if it. He looked much stronger, and much more focused than Whitely, and he never lost his starting job after that....

I have big expectations for Hadnot this year under Houck. He could be a dominant OG this year. As for V. Carey, he's another player that needs to step up under better coaching this year. I'm not sure where he'll fit into all of this OL shuffling, but we need him that's for sure...

PHINZ RULE!!!
 
inFINSible said:
Hadnot > Carey, so far......'nuff said...:lol:

It's a good theory and it probably works in a sense that quantity is bound to produce quality but, the hit miss ratio is much higher.

If a first or second rounder is a 50/50 proposition.....and a fourth through sixth rounder is a 25/75....then you need double the amount of picks to hit on ONE guy.

Noy only that but, the picks aren't going to be "sexy"....they aren't going to sell merchandise or seats. Not initially anyway.
yes I understand that's why I don't agree with JJ 100% on his draft theory. But If you get 1 5th rounder that performs and 1.. 1-2nd rounder, you can afford an extra player due to the contract amount of the 5th rounder. He will save you 1-2 mil against the cap. I know it doens't always work and you need your first day picks but sometimes you have to wonder if it isn't a better way to view the draft. Bobby Bethard, with Washington in the late 70's early 80's made a career out of late round picks.
 
t47c said:
yes I understand that's why I don't agree with JJ 100% on his draft theory. But If you get 1 5th rounder that performs and 1.. 1-2nd rounder, you can afford an extra player due to the contract amount of the 5th rounder. He will save you 1-2 mil against the cap. I know it doens't always work and you need your first day picks but sometimes you have to wonder if it isn't a better way to view the draft. Bobby Bethard, with Washington in the late 70's early 80's made a career out of late round picks.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to talk down to you. You never know the depth of anyone's knowledge on this thing. Especially you newbs..:)

I think in this age of free agency, you've got to get the most playing time you can get out of your draft picks because you don't have the time to develop them like you used to. A mid to late round player is more than likely going to take at least two, usually three, years before they become effective starters, at which time you lose them to free agency or are forced to get into a bidding war with other teams who have been scouting your player every since he got into the NFL and have also noticed his progress. I think you need guys that are going to make a quick transition and be effective starters from their first season, and definately no later than their second season, in order to get the most "value" on the dollar.

Of course, you know where those players can be found in the draft.
 
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