Rgiii vs luck vs tannehill vs weeden

[SR 7]

you got the basic idea down that pretty much most black QBs are known as athletes and rely on their gifts. The big issue for them being is that they tend to go to schools that run the spread option show they never develop the ability to read a defense. For as much of an idiot/disappointment Terrell Pryor was at Ohio State, he openly stated he went there over WVU,Michigan, and Oregon was he wanted to play in a pro offense so he could become a pro. Now his issues were a bit different (he played at a very small school in PA before going to college, so while he was by far more athletic than everybody, he never really had to try hard before college, I saw the state title game his senior year, he was 50 pounds heavier than his center).

You also have guys like Vince Young, who while at Texas had an entire offense dummied down to him because he couldn't/refused to learn the system (compare his offense to that of Colt McCoy's. Colt had a much more complex offense to learn), then he came to the pros and NORM CHOW couldn't make him look good. Norm Chow can make almost anybody look good at QB and he couldn't make VY look good.

The guys who seem to have the most success are the ones who accept that eventually they won't be as athletic all of their careers or that good coaching will come up with a system to contain their natural ability. RG3 is one of those guys I feel can overcome the stereotypes of being a black QB because he is really smart and humble... he's just in a potentially toxic situation. Cam Netwon ended up going to a place with an OC who knew how to bring him up to an NFL playbook.

Another issue is a lot of the top black QBs in college tend to be short and they have to play mostly out of the shotgun to see over their OL. Russell Wilson is an exception in that sense because while at both NC State and Wisconsin he was under center (and Wisconsin had a huge OL). Wilson also, despite being a superior athlete, learnt early due to pro style coaching in college to keep his eyes down field and look for the open pass first and foremost.

Now 2 of my favorite underclassmen QBs are black; Logan Thomas and Tajh Boyd. I think both are gonna be really good in the pros with the right coaching.

You mentioned coaching and I have one resonse to that to prove thats their main issue, ignorance.

Andrew Bynum.

That dip **** told Kareem I dont need your coaching anymore my game is complete I am the best in the NBA stop telling me how to play.

Excuse me you ****, be thankful he is helping your dumb ass to success. MOst of these very talented black athletes don't want to be coached or taught, they have a mindset of they know how to play and they are so superior in athletic ability they can win because of it. Their EGO is disgusting.

 

[ROADRUNNER]

]Luck is a god damn animal. All pro caliber once in a generation player. ........:up:

Tannehill could be really good. Kid has real potential..............:up:

Weeden will likely be trash,............:up: decent at best IMHO. Has the definate disadvantage of being a member or the Cleveland Browns.
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Bob Griffin ****ing blows. No team will ever win a damn thing that matters with him as their QB.

.........:rolleyes2:

..........so close to 4 out of 4.

 

[Robby]

Tannehill also did all this in the RAIN!

 

[hoops]

watching cinci last night and seeing how physical a front they are and the way they get after the qb i feel for brandon weeden in that division...that kids gonna get hit an awful lot...cinci pittsburgh baltimore OUCH...gonna be nothing like it was at ok state

 

[jtsacksyou]

Fantasy football is not real football dude. Getting -2 when you turn the ball and 6 points when you run for a TD does not equate the reality of how a turnover effects the game vs a TD.

Look, whats relevant here is I dont think there is a good explaination as to why most black QBs simply arent very good in the NFL. If someone had one, Id love to hear it. I wish there were more good black QBs. Id really like to see a black guy outshine Vick so people can stop hyping up that dog killer.

I know the explaination is not lack of black players getting an opportunity to play the position. Just watch HS and college games. Black players get just as much of an opportunity. There is no racism involved. Coaches are going to play the best players and GMs in the NFL are going draft the players they feel will help them win. Nobody gives 2 ****s about what color a guys skin is. Thats 1930s nonsense.

Im sure there are plenty of racist scumbags still around, especially in the deep south, who worry about that stuff, but I dont buy it that an NFL GM would not draft a QB because he is black. Hell, black QBs have been drafted left and right lately. Newton went first overall and Bob Griffin went 2nd overall. So black players are getting opportunities. I just cant answer why most black QBs ****ing blow in the NFL.

Just look at the lists and you know its true that with the exception of Newton and Vick the rest of the black QBs in the NFL are hot garbage. Not counting RG3, he hasnt played yet.

Now if you want to tell me that not long ago black coaches didnt get a fair shake at HC positions, I will buy that. Thats why the Rooney rule was put in and for a while it was a good thing. But, I dont see anywhere now that a black man wouldnt get a HC spot over a white guy just because of their color. That Rooney rule can be taken out. Its still an issue in college football I think, especially in the south. College football is based on ignorance and hate btw. So it goes with the territory. College football blows.

Anyway, if you can give me a good explaination as to why most black QBs are hot garbage in the NFL, id love to hear it. Im at a loss.

I think the best explanation is because they don't get proper coaching at the lower levels. In high school and college the quarterback isn't overly concerned about teaching proper throwing mechanics when he can let the guy run around and make plays. That doesnt work in the NFL and the quarterbacks that didn't rely on pure athletiscm at the lower levels are better prepared.