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He`s going to be on the hot list in a couple of minutes on espnews for those who wanna watch
 
He said he is an absolute idiot when it comes to eyes for talent and he is very sorry to Dolphin fans for all the dumb moves he made.
 
He complimented Nick and the Dolphins, saying we are doing a great job on D (a VERY different scheme then what we saw with Wanny), and that Gus is playing well NOT LOSING GAMES FOR US (Hello AJ- that was a jab at YOU)

Overall, a nice piece
 
He said he is an absolute idiot when it comes to eyes for talent and he is very sorry to Dolphin fans for all the dumb moves he made.
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Um, no. His eye for talent was actually pretty good. The one draft he was in charge of was very strong, particularly in the later rounds. Hadnot, Poole, and Pope (even though he's on his way out since he is too small for our scheme) were great pickups and all came on the 2nd day. Saban's done a better job, but the 2004 draft was our best in years.

Where he killed us was in his deal making. He made trades out of desperation, trying to turn around a team overnight that was about to tank. He gave up a 2nd for AJ because Philly wasn't looking to trade him and that seemed like his final option for the alternative to Fiedler everyone was dying for. The Ogun trade was decent, but he blew it by trading a 3rd for Lamar Gordon in a desperate bid to replace Ricky and save our season. He basically hurt our future by trying to save last season and failed anyway.

Was he a failure here? Yes! But he did have an eye for talent. He would be a good personnel man for another franchise provided he's not the one making trades.
 
MiamiMan147 said:
Um, no. His eye for talent was actually pretty good. The one draft he was in charge of was very strong, particularly in the later rounds. Hadnot, Poole, and Pope (even though he's on his way out since he is too small for our scheme) were great pickups and all came on the 2nd day. Saban's done a better job, but the 2004 draft was our best in years.

Where he killed us was in his deal making. He made trades out of desperation, trying to turn around a team overnight that was about to tank. He gave up a 2nd for AJ because Philly wasn't looking to trade him and that seemed like his final option for the alternative to Fiedler everyone was dying for. The Ogun trade was decent, but he blew it by trading a 3rd for Lamar Gordon in a desperate bid to replace Ricky and save our season. He basically hurt our future by trying to save last season and failed anyway.

Was he a failure here? Yes! But he did have an eye for talent. He would be a good personnel man for another franchise provided he's not the one making trades.
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MiamiMan147 said:
Um, no. His eye for talent was actually pretty good. The one draft he was in charge of was very strong, particularly in the later rounds. Hadnot, Poole, and Pope (even though he's on his way out since he is too small for our scheme) were great pickups and all came on the 2nd day. Saban's done a better job, but the 2004 draft was our best in years.

Where he killed us was in his deal making. He made trades out of desperation, trying to turn around a team overnight that was about to tank. He gave up a 2nd for AJ because Philly wasn't looking to trade him and that seemed like his final option for the alternative to Fiedler everyone was dying for. The Ogun trade was decent, but he blew it by trading a 3rd for Lamar Gordon in a desperate bid to replace Ricky and save our season. He basically hurt our future by trying to save last season and failed anyway.

Was he a failure here? Yes! But he did have an eye for talent. He would be a good personnel man for another franchise provided he's not the one making trades.
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His eye for talent was awful. Jeno James. Reggie Howard. Vernon Carey (for where he was drafted). Lamar Gordon. AJ FEELEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can anyone at this point keep defending Rick Spielman. HE IS TERRIBLE!

Poole was a 1st rounder who fell to the 4th becuase of off hte field problems. No brainer taking him in round 4. Pope sucks and is no good find.
 
MiamiMan147 said:
Um, no. His eye for talent was actually pretty good. The one draft he was in charge of was very strong, particularly in the later rounds. Hadnot, Poole, and Pope (even though he's on his way out since he is too small for our scheme) were great pickups and all came on the 2nd day. Saban's done a better job, but the 2004 draft was our best in years.
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Agreed, I don't think Saban's done a better job, just picked players for his scheme, whereas Rick was picking for Wanny's scheme, hence the Pope deal.

Where he killed us was in his deal making. He made trades out of desperation, trying to turn around a team overnight that was about to tank. He gave up a 2nd for AJ because Philly wasn't looking to trade him and that seemed like his final option for the alternative to Fiedler everyone was dying for. The Ogun trade was decent, but he blew it by trading a 3rd for Lamar Gordon in a desperate bid to replace Ricky and save our season. He basically hurt our future by trying to save last season and failed anyway.
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disagree, while AJ's deal at this time seems questionable, at the time everyone was aboard his train. We got the 2nd back this year, the Ogun deal gave us an extra 3rd, thus trying to get Lamar. Both players had played well in their limited minutes on other teams and there was no reason to think they wouldn't play well here. I still think AJ could run this O, once he gets a year under his belt. It's taylor made for his arm. Our future was not hurt in any way by these moves. I think Surtain was a gonna anyway by the fact Spielman didn't resign him last year, so I still think we'd get our 2nd back. It easy to 2nd guess anyone in hindsight. Our Cap is projected at 25 mil under next year, Nick was able to get a billion FA's and sign his draft picks this year. I think that says Speilman didn't over do it and left us in pretty good shape after all.

Was he a failure here? Yes! But he did have an eye for talent. He would be a good personnel man for another franchise provided he's not the one making trades.
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Was he a failure, no, one season is not enough to make that judgement. You said yourself, last year's draft was the best we'd had in years. If he had time, I think he would have gotten the players in here to play Wanny ball, but the problem would have been the coaching..because as you said, Speilman has an eye for talent..I wished Nick would have recognized that. All the player makers on this team is from Speilman, Welker, Booker, Boston, S. Morris, Gilmore, OL, and him\Wanny--Chambers, Minor.
 
Spielman has an eye for talent? Who? When? Where?

Aside from Randy McMIchel in the 4th round (which I don't even give him credit for he was the highest rated TE on the board, he took him, but let's give him credit for that). Where is this "EYE FOR TALENT" you all talk about? Seriously. Where? WHO?

He didn't bring in any quality offensive linemen, running backs, wide recievers, or quarterbacks. DRAFTED OR FREE AGENTS. And our defense is the same it was before he came into power (Zach, Sam, JT...) with rookies from Saban or free agents.

This eye for talent......name names because I don't see any!
 
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