ricky WILL want a new contract!

[csabe]

The Steelers do NOT have three good backs. They have a great offensive line.

exactly

 

[BIGRED11]

what!? the steelers have willie parker and 900 year old bettis? neither one of them could hold ricky or ronnie's jock strap right now.

what are you sniffing???

 

[PhinPhan1227]

i can't even stand reading one more ignorant post about ricky playing for the minimum salary! he WILL NOT. ricky william's only way of retiring with a lifestyle he's used to is to play football for a few more years. do you really think ricky williams will light up the nfl making 800,000 dollars?! if we can get a 2nd rounder and up for ricky we need to pull the trigger. ricky isn't a long term option for the fins and the second he hits 30 years old his value is nothing. i know we have some intelligent posters here. lets be real fellas. ricky must go.

Ricky is playing for minimum...plus EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS. He has no negotiating power. If he does anything but exactly what the Phins want from him, he owes them back that money.

 

[phinfanNY08]

i love ricky williams, i don't care that he left to smoke some nug in a far off place. i wish i could go off and let my mind be free for a year. however, i am first a dolphin fan and i would rather us get some young value for him. but if he's fine with making the vet min i would much rather keep him on the roster. i just don't see it happening that way. maybe i'm wrong.

i think saban is using ricky as a trade dangle to possibly get someone to bite. who knows what his plan is having ricky back but ricky has shown he is important to this team, especially when ronnie went down at the end of the year ricky proves that this system will work with 2 rb's capable of handling a load like this. if ricky stays, it puts us in better shape, but i think saban values his picks and will only trade up if cutler is worth it. but that dependson the combine. we can find a qb of the future in the 2nd-4th, i think croyle and olsen could be the best options if we value the 16th pick and want tohang on to ricky

 

[Dolphin North]

i can't even stand reading one more ignorant post about ricky playing for the minimum salary! he WILL NOT. ricky william's only way of retiring with a lifestyle he's used to is to play football for a few more years. do you really think ricky williams will light up the nfl making 800,000 dollars?! if we can get a 2nd rounder and up for ricky we need to pull the trigger. ricky isn't a long term option for the fins and the second he hits 30 years old his value is nothing. i know we have some intelligent posters here. lets be real fellas. ricky must go.

Ricky will get a new contract when he poneys up the 8 plus Million he owes. That's why he won't ask. At most he'll ask to have that debt dropped for good if he plays out this contract. By the time that contract ends, he'll be in Denver.

 

[wagz]

its not because of ben they are in the game, its because of parker and bettis that put the ball in the endzone and set that team up. they pound the ball, what was ben's attempts per game? like 15-20?? they are a run first team and they beat teams in the playoffs because they changed that. they control the clock, and you do that by running. i guess you forgot big ben's game against the patriots in last years game....dont foget he was hurt a few times this year as well and the wins they had to get was on the ground. maybe you need to rethink your mindset. do the math...

pittsburgh ran 960 offensive plays this year: 928 were unpenalized

379 passing plays
549 rushing plays

62.3% of the time they run the football. want to try again?

ur wrong and anyone who says its rothelesburger is wrong, its porter polumalu and the rest of their defence thats got them there and thei o line is second, why do you think everyone else is good, big ben gets good protection and all their running backs get big holes to run in its that simple ben willie and jerome helped but its mainly the defence and o line

this is why we should draft and sign offencive linemen they make everyone else around them better

 

[WindyCityDolfan]

i did watch the playoffs. regular season they ran the ball near 63% of the time. going into the playoffs, that is what teams prepared for and they threw the ball. smart coaching, but if it wasnt for bettis and parker, would they be successful?

lets look back. ricky retires, leaving miami no good RB.

what happened.

throw first mentallity and we had 8 int's returned for tds?

you just throw ben into the offense with no running game, no way he will be successful. im sorry but its all about the offense, and pittsburgh's offense is RUN FIRST. CONTROL THE CLOCK. it is easy to throw the ball on opponents when they have 8-9 guys in the box.



im not doubting ben at all, i think he is a great qb, the debate is how they reached where they have gotten at this point. the team is all about controlling the clock, and running the ball with parker and bettis allows the team to be successful when throwing bc teams put everyone up at the line to shut down the run.

my argument is that if you put ben behind a sub par offensive line, with no running attack nearly as good as pittsburgh's, you put him basically on .500 team. no qb can do it alone, so i think the credit everyone is giving big ben is being overlooked by what the coaches and running game did to teams mentallity facing them. we must stop the run, we have to key bettis/parker and contain them. no team did that this year. period. seattle will do the same thing, 8 men up, man to man in the secondary. bc the running game is what put fears in defenses facing pitt. not big ben.

You are missing a few important details....and clearly wrong on an issue. First of all the Dolphins did not have a pass first mentality after ricky retired that resulted in 8 int returned for TD's.....actually anyone watching the Dolphins knows that we were dreadfully predictable in our offense, Run on first and second down and then throw on third down....we were a run first (and second) offense. We just sucked at both running and passing so that is why we had so many third and longs that resulted in Int returned for touchdowns.....

Next, Pittsburgh is a complex offensive team in the sense that it may run 63% of the time but the statistics show that they actually build up that percentage to such a high level with runs in the thrid and 4th quarter protecting a lead. They get the lead by passing early in the game. So technically they are a balanced team that passes early and runs late....I heard Cowher say this himself before the last playoff game in an interview on TV. The percentage of passes in the first half in greater or equal to the percentage of runs.

Also, I think that bettis and parker benefit from a great offensive line which is why they can run the ball in the 4th quarter when everyone is expecting them to run. I think that is the main reason so many teams can field 2 or 3 (broncos) statistically strong RB's.....OFFENSIVE LINE!!.....our RB's I believe are outstanding RB's with tremebdous talent.....more talent than Parker and Bettis......Our OL just isn't as good. A lot of the credit to their running games has to go to their OL.

 

[themole]

i can't even stand reading one more ignorant post about ricky playing for the minimum salary! he WILL NOT. ricky william's only way of retiring with a lifestyle he's used to is to play football for a few more years. do you really think ricky williams will light up the nfl making 800,000 dollars?! if we can get a 2nd rounder and up for ricky we need to pull the trigger. ricky isn't a long term option for the fins and the second he hits 30 years old his value is nothing. i know we have some intelligent posters here. lets be real fellas. ricky must go.

Yea...Ricky is a real high roller. He spent his retirement year living in a damn PUP tent practicing Yoga for crying out loud.

If Ricky stays, he will get a new contract. (He deserves more than the minimum, IMO) But it won't be as much as a typical star RB would be.

That's my assesment too. I hope he stays, even with a more generous contract he's worth it.

^ How did that happen?

gee I hope he doesn't threaten to sit out. I dont know what the dolphins would do if he did. oh wait. ricky needs money and with his rep he is in no position to start making demands. oh and i love how you act like you know what Ricky would do and what is going through his head. Ya hes definitely the predictable type.

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