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Roberto Wallace or Brian Hartline?

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So Roberto Wallace has been thrusted into the starting lineup. If he continues to play well would you keep him at that spot or when Brian Hartline is Finally ready to play do you just hand it over to him based on what he's done in the past as CK has suggested? It sounds like a stupid question to me because Hartline has done absolutely nothing this offseason and if there's really supposed to be a competition at every position then Hartline would have a very long ways to go to earn a starting spot. Let's be real here though, there hasn't truly been a competition at every position I mean if there was we wouldn't have seen Chris Clemens vault into the starting lineup the second he got healthy when Jimmy Wilson was running there the entire time and we wouldn't have seen Hartline ahead of Wallace on the Depth Chart when Wallace was apparently balling in the offseason and Hartline was yet to get on the field.

Personally I really like what Wallace has done and to me he looked great in that first preseason game. If it were up to me he'd be my starter and by the looks of it probably my #1 WR. I know, I know, send me to the funny farm but I'm just going off of what I've read and seen(although it hasn't been much). Well anyway I just wanted to know everyone elses opinions on what they would like to see happen and what they think WILL happen. Oh and all of this is assuming we don't sign or trade for another WR.
 
If you hold Philbin to what he has said - that every player is starting fresh and everyone has to earn their spot - then no, you dont just give Hartline free pass and give him the starting role. Wallace, Naanee, and Bess (and others) have earned their spots. So far, Philbin hasnt lied to us so I suspect Hartline will have to earn a spot if he plans on being a starter.
 
Both.. at first. You know Bess is money. So you rotate Wallace/Hartline/Nannee until it sticks.

Hartline back in the lineup is good news anyway you want to spin it. I'll be happier than most on this board with our WRs if hes playing against the Texans.
 
Hmmmm we have one guy with 2tds over 2yrs and another guy with 6 catches over 2yrs. I think it is safe to say every wr position is up for grabs.
 
...both?

Why one or the other?

Somebody has to be the starter. I'm not a big fan of a heavy rotation at skill positions, I just feel like the more those guys are on the field they get into a groove and play better as the game wears on assuming they're in shape. I'd be fine with those guys rotating though if they were both producing.
 
I suspect that Wallace and Nanee will start game 1 at the outside positions and Hartline will get plenty of chances once he is healthy.
I do not think it is either / or.
They will all get to play.
 
Like it or not, Roberto Wallace has been our best receiver all around this off season and he should absolutely have a starting spot as of right now. Hartline does deserve SOME benefit of the doubt over guys like Pruitt or Nanee, so right now our receivers in order should be Wallace, Hartline, Bess, Pruitt, and Nanee imo.
 
Somebody has to be the starter. I'm not a big fan of a heavy rotation at skill positions, I just feel like the more those guys are on the field they get into a groove and play better as the game wears on assuming they're in shape. I'd be fine with those guys rotating though if they were both producing.

Well u start 2 receivers obviously. Right now Wallace and Hartline should be our starters.
 
Somebody has to be the starter. I'm not a big fan of a heavy rotation at skill positions, I just feel like the more those guys are on the field they get into a groove and play better as the game wears on assuming they're in shape. I'd be fine with those guys rotating though if they were both producing.

In Green Bay, rotation was a fact of life amongst the wide receivers.

I think it would be ridiculous based on past performance to just relegated Brian Hartline to the bench and never play him this year because he missed some training camp with a calf injury. I've said that before and I'll say that again.
 
In Green Bay, rotation was a fact of life amongst the wide receivers.

I think it would be ridiculous based on past performance to just relegated Brian Hartline to the bench and never play him this year because he missed some training camp with a calf injury. I've said that before and I'll say that again.

Nobody was or is saying that should happen, my question was simply who everyone thinks should be the starter. Reguardelss of the rotation the starting WR is probably going to be on the field more than the guy who starts off on the bench. Idk, maybe I'm just feening for a team with an unquestioned starter at QB and WR so those two positions can get on the same page and build cohesion for years like Marino/Duper, Manning/Harrison etc.
 
Seeing Brian Hartline misses practice because he has gas or an ingrown toenail, I say Wallace.... Mike Wallace that is....
 
...both?

Why one or the other?

IF (big if) BESS, HARTLINE, NAANEE, WALLACE and PRUITT are supposedly MIAMI's 5 best WRs, then MIAMI needs to play them, at least long enough to find out. You need WRs for a WCO, and MIAMI should carry 6, not counting the P/S.

BESS, i/m/o, is one of the 5 top possession WRs in the game, and he operates out of the "slot". He's a lock, and maybe a starter. HARTLINE can probably be a possession WR, but he's more than fast enough so that you can't ignore him deep. He's either a starter, or hes the 1st WR off the bench...unless you decide not to start BESS...then it's a "toss-up" i/m/o as to who's #3 and #4. WALLACE, if in fact he has "arrived" (again BIG "if"), starts, and will become quite a weapon i/m/o. He's built along the lines of our late Mr. MARSHALL, but has speed that MARSHALL never dreamed of. He played in a WCO in college, and he seems (one preseason game is, of course, not enough data, but...) to have developed. And PRUITT is 6'1"/210ish, w/even more SPEED than WALLACE. He also showed some very nice work last Friday night.

NAANEE did NOT impress me at all. He has no more "upside", being 29. The only thing he has going for him, i/m/o, is more experience than anyone else. But, to coin a phrase, "thrillsville"! He has been mediocre at best, and has had no impact, everywhere he has played, and that didn't change last Friday night. Of the 5 WRs named, he's the one that I would cut. He's experienced only at being mediocre, or sucking, and if he makes the squad, I see no indication that he'll do anything but suck some more. So, as far as I'm concerned, he's on the proverbial "bubble". He better show a lot more, and SOON!

There's some talk about MATTHEWS and his ONE good KR. I saw that play, and i/m/o, he will never be a top KR, because he doesn't have enough speed: he doesn't really have a "burst" worth mentioning. I'd go w/someone else, specifically, GATES. MATTHEWS, along w/HOGAN and MAYBE (repeat, MAYBE) CUNNINGHAM, are competing for the 6th WR position, if NAANEE continues to show nothing, or 2 spots on the P/S if NAANEE actually DOES show something. I'm just not "holding my breath" as to NAANEE.

That's it: that's how I see MIAMI's WR situation. I'd just add this final thought: maybe we should give a shot to the WRs that WE OURSELVES selected. I/m/o, they have talent, and why not go w/our own? WALLACE and PRUITT, and even BESS and HARTLINE, were hindered in their development by B MARSHALL. So, let's see what they can do. (Did I mention that I'm happy that MARSHALL's gone? Well, I am: he cost us too much...and I don't mean money, either!
 
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I believe that Hartline's problem is his recent spell of injuries. If he were healthy through OTAs and camps he would be a starter; he is a clutch receiver with the ability to make highlight reel catches. The question is that he seems to have gone from one medical problem to another. Without all pertinent medical info, it's hard to know when or if he'll be 100%. As for those who think that he's not starting material because of his lack of production last year, Bess also had a poor statistical season. This wasn't the fault of Hartline or Bess; it was due to playcalling and the fact that Moore targeted Marshall the majority of the time. Even with Marshall on the field, Hartline and Bess had decent numbers when Henne was QB. I think our offense needs better QB play (start the rookie?) before they worry about the receivers. Since we probably won't make the playoffs this year, let Tannehill and the young receivers get the experience needed to improve their play.
 
Neither gave accomplished anything in their short careers.
 
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