Phins34
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I like him...everyone keeps talking about weis. It's NE defense that ehy are as good as they are.
Romeo Cromell
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I believe that most Pats fans view Romeo Crennel as the head coach to get if you want an apple from the Parcells/Belichick tree. He has coached with those two for a long, long time. Very smart, articulate, innovative guy. He deserves the credit for the Pats defense. Belichick leaves him alone, mostly because they think exactly alike.
The players absolutely love Crennel. Total confidence in his game plans and he lets the players suggest innovation. For example, they destroyed P. Manning in the AFC Champ game with Ty Law and Rodney Harrison trading positions -- from CB to safety, sometimes switching twice before the snap of the ball. That was something Harrison and Law came up with in practice for fun and sold to the coaching staff. Manning lined up for the first play of the game and saw something that the Pats had never shown in ANY game film -- Harrison lined up at CB and Law at deep safety. Manning started doing his chicken-dance audible routine and when he turned back to take the snap, the two defenders had switched again. Four picks later..... (BTW, they did that same switcheroo on the opening defenisive play agains the Colts in game one of this season).
Alas, Crennel is in his mid-fifties I guess. Most dumb-*** NFL franchises are more interested in some media-hound pretty boy head coach to sell tickets.
The players absolutely love Crennel. Total confidence in his game plans and he lets the players suggest innovation. For example, they destroyed P. Manning in the AFC Champ game with Ty Law and Rodney Harrison trading positions -- from CB to safety, sometimes switching twice before the snap of the ball. That was something Harrison and Law came up with in practice for fun and sold to the coaching staff. Manning lined up for the first play of the game and saw something that the Pats had never shown in ANY game film -- Harrison lined up at CB and Law at deep safety. Manning started doing his chicken-dance audible routine and when he turned back to take the snap, the two defenders had switched again. Four picks later..... (BTW, they did that same switcheroo on the opening defenisive play agains the Colts in game one of this season).
Alas, Crennel is in his mid-fifties I guess. Most dumb-*** NFL franchises are more interested in some media-hound pretty boy head coach to sell tickets.
Section126
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I would pass...Bellichick calls alot of Defensive sets........
Actually, Belichick has spent most of his time on the offense in New England. His QB coach died at the start of the 2001 SuperBowl season. Rather than hire a new guy late, Belichick spent 2001 working with Brady as his QB coach. Ever since, Belichick has spent each off-season giving Brady a grad-school level education in the philosophies of various NFL defenses, so that Brady understands the weaknesses to be exploited in EVERY type of defense.Section126 said:
If Belichick retired to the GM job tomorrow, I believe he would move Romeo Crennel up to the head coach position with the Pats.
DolfanISS
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I would pass on any defensive minds right now. Think about it guys we have been watching piss poor offense since 1996. I'd rather be the Chiefs and lose 45-40 than lose 3-0 every week becasue at least that's fun to watch. I want an offesnive mind in here in 2005.
outtawack311
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Jaj said:
The most out of his surroundings???? You mean culpepper, moss and bennet??? Hell, I could run a successful offense with what they have..
Nicky Napoleon
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My personal reason for wanting Weis over Cromell is because I am tired of low scoring games. Plus with the offensive pieces we have we need SOMEONE WITH AN OFFENSIVE GAMEPLAN!!! Weis is good at calling plays that will maximize players potential, unlike our offense which is driving a square peg into a round hole with a sledge hammer!
Dajesus
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Their defense is great, and probably the best scheme in the past 20 years, but I am more impressed with the offense. Think about before this year who they have had on offense. One really good o-lineman(woody) the rest are very average. No RB, a WR core lead by Troy Brown who is at best an above average WR, and no one behind him. Not to mention this offense took a 2nd year 6th round draft choice QB, and made him the Super Bowl MVP. The defense is great but they had alot more to work with. I would deffinitly want Charley Weis as our next head coach.
You guys are making the classic mistake of thinking that the NFL is about "scheme", or "talent". Neither of those things are what makes the Pats coaches successful. They don't even have a "scheme". Or more accurately, their "schemes" change from week to week, even quarter to quarter during a game. You could tell Belichick, Crennel, and Weis to run the complete opposite style of defense or offense and they could do it.
They do have some "principles":
a) Only sign players who LOVE playing football above anything else
b) Play physical. This means big linemen, big linebackers (usually converted college defensive ends), etc. Hard hitting, smashmouth guys.
c) Only sign players who are coachable -- so that each player can improve and the team gets better week by week by week.
d) Play disciplined football. Each player has a responsibility.
e) Don't waste money on offensive linemen. Sign cheap guys and develop them.
f) Use draft picks on positions that can't be filled affordably in free agency: DBs, D-linemen, left tackles, wide receivers.
g) The most important thing is 53 guys who can contribute production to a team. Depth is everything; the season is a marathon.
h) Forget combine stats. Sign players based on their actual production.
i) Only sign intelligent players.
j) One day, one week, one game at a time.
k) The team with enough poise to execute in pressure situations will make the one or two plays that mean the difference between winning and losing.
l) Poise comes from knowing what to expect, distilling game plans into a few key concepts, and intense preparation. No surprises on game day.
m) In the salary cap era, manage your team like a college program, knowing that you will turn over the vast majority of your roster every four or five years. Can't afford to keep every player, no matter how good they may be.
n) Special teams are every bit as important as defense or offense.
o) Defense is simple. Find the guy with the ball and tackle him. There is no point in having a defensive player who can't tackle.
p) Offense is all about keeping possession of the ball. There is no point in having an offensive player who turns the ball over.
q) Your team starts over every year. New chemistry. New strengths. New weaknesses. Start in September, try to get good enough by December to accomplish something.
They do have some "principles":
a) Only sign players who LOVE playing football above anything else
b) Play physical. This means big linemen, big linebackers (usually converted college defensive ends), etc. Hard hitting, smashmouth guys.
c) Only sign players who are coachable -- so that each player can improve and the team gets better week by week by week.
d) Play disciplined football. Each player has a responsibility.
e) Don't waste money on offensive linemen. Sign cheap guys and develop them.
f) Use draft picks on positions that can't be filled affordably in free agency: DBs, D-linemen, left tackles, wide receivers.
g) The most important thing is 53 guys who can contribute production to a team. Depth is everything; the season is a marathon.
h) Forget combine stats. Sign players based on their actual production.
i) Only sign intelligent players.
j) One day, one week, one game at a time.
k) The team with enough poise to execute in pressure situations will make the one or two plays that mean the difference between winning and losing.
l) Poise comes from knowing what to expect, distilling game plans into a few key concepts, and intense preparation. No surprises on game day.
m) In the salary cap era, manage your team like a college program, knowing that you will turn over the vast majority of your roster every four or five years. Can't afford to keep every player, no matter how good they may be.
n) Special teams are every bit as important as defense or offense.
o) Defense is simple. Find the guy with the ball and tackle him. There is no point in having a defensive player who can't tackle.
p) Offense is all about keeping possession of the ball. There is no point in having an offensive player who turns the ball over.
q) Your team starts over every year. New chemistry. New strengths. New weaknesses. Start in September, try to get good enough by December to accomplish something.
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I disagree, i think crommell is a good DC. HC material? i doubt it. The guy looks like he would eat the whole brunch table on sunday morning. He is not a motivator and a guy who would lay into somebody. That is what this organization needs. someone who will tell it like it is and not sugar coat it. Someone like Cowher.
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Its CRENNEL and WEIS.
You guys are not listening to hwc. The guy is making sense and knows what makes the Pats tick. Crennel is HC material, Weis I'm not so sure (think Martz). If you want the Parcells/Belichick winning formula, you take Crennel over Weis in a heartbeat. If you want to continue to piss into the wind, go for some OC that will light up the scoreboard and allow your defense to slip back to the Marino days.
If you bring Crennel in at HC, its possible you could also get Weis as OC. This is likely his last year at NE, since the Pats refused to sign him to an extention (what does that tell you?). The other way around is a lot less likely.
You guys are not listening to hwc. The guy is making sense and knows what makes the Pats tick. Crennel is HC material, Weis I'm not so sure (think Martz). If you want the Parcells/Belichick winning formula, you take Crennel over Weis in a heartbeat. If you want to continue to piss into the wind, go for some OC that will light up the scoreboard and allow your defense to slip back to the Marino days.
If you bring Crennel in at HC, its possible you could also get Weis as OC. This is likely his last year at NE, since the Pats refused to sign him to an extention (what does that tell you?). The other way around is a lot less likely.
Section126 said:
They can tell us anything they want to, I do not believe Crennell is the brains behind that operation. BB is the most brilliant defensive mind in the game toay(and maybe ever) and there's no doubt who is designing those schemes regardless of what they tell us. There's a reason it took 20+ years for Romeo to become a DC and when he got that job in '99 he wasn't very good for those 2 years in Cleveland, I know they were an expansion team but the D got alot better in '01 than they were in '00.