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Ronnie Brown Aint Sweatin cause of RunDMC(Darren McFadden)....or is he?

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.style00 { background-color: #EDEDED; } McFadden A Dolphin?McFadden is the top talent in the 2008 NFL Draft.After a dismal 2007 season, the Miami Dolphins hold the top pick in this year's NFL Draft. As always, there is much speculation over who will or should be this year's top pick. As always you start hearing about each teams needs. To me, the Dolphins have only one need. That one need is to get more talent on their roster. Bad teams can't afford to draft based on "need," they need to draft with an attempt to get the best available football players to increase the teams overall talent level. The Dolphins have so many "holes" that drafting one particular player or position isn't going to fix their problems. Let's face it, the Dolphins aren't going to get good over night or with just one draft. The direction I feel would best serve the Dolphins would be to take the draft's best player in Arkansas running back Darren McFadden. McFadden is a rare talent with a tremendous combination of size, speed, vision, and power. McFadden is the type of player an offense can be built around. Generally the running back position is the easiest position to have an immediate impact when making the jump from college to the NFL. After seeing the success Adrian Peterson had this season in Minnesota, I think that makes the McFadden pick all that more logical. As I earlier stated, the Dolphins aren't going to right the ship over night or with just this years draft. I'm sure there will be a 2-3 year plan put in place, which will allow plenty of time to sure up the offensive line, defensive line, and secondary. They won't have nearly as many chances to land a game-breaking talent like McFadden. Another aspect to look at is their quarterback situation. Last year the Dolphins spent a second round pick on BYU quarterback John Beck. The Dolphins hope they have finally found an heir apparent to Dan Marino in Beck. What better way to take the pressure off a young quarterback than to have a strong running game? So you say, "What about Ronnie Brown?" Believe me, I'm not ready to sell Brown up the river, but there is no guarantee he will be 100% next season or ever again after tearing up his knee early this season. Prior to this season Brown was average at best, although he did look very good early this season prior to getting hurt. If Brown is Ok, that's all the better for the Dolphins. Two back system's are all the craze right now in the copy-cat league that is the NFL. New team president Bill Parcell's has shown in the past he favors a 2 back system.
 
I hope you are wearing an asbestos suit because you are going to take some heat for this one.

Compelling case, but I've always been a BPA type of draftnik, anyway. Just not sure that he is the BPA. If the "long strider" tag on McFadden is fair, I'm just not that sure he's going to help us as much as he would a team with a better run blocking line. We need a power runner like Ronnie or an elusive guy like Emmit in his prime... McFadden is not supposed to be as elusive & shifty as Peterson from last year's draft, so if he's wearing aqua and orange next year I see him getting stuffed a lot behind the line. Just because he can outrun guys in college and take it to the house doesn't ensure he can do it in the pros when making people miss isn't his forte. My two cents.
 
I feel BPA NO MATTER WHAT position....it's true, bad teams need TALENT. It would be a HUGE mistake to tie #1 money up on a "good" but not spectacular player.

If we just have a top 10 pick then by all means, get a solid Defensive player, but when you have the #1 pick who will make superstar money based on his draft position, you have to make sure he's a superstar IMO.
 
X-Pacolypse said:
Football games are won and lost in the trenches. Boo Darren McFadden. Hooray Jake Long!
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I am not sold on Jake Long at all, he reminds me of Robert Gallery.

Speaking to "Run DMC" (a sweat nickname) When parcells was on ESPN I recall watching and he said he would not take a RB at #1, and you can find good value at that position later in the draft. This was way before he was even talked about for the dolphins GM, but I really doubt he will take an RB.

If you took every single position the dolphins have a need at, the RB is probably dead last. We have Brown, Booker, and Gado. These are all good options. OLine, Dline, LBs, Safeties, Corners, QB, TE, all these need to be fixed before we started getting wild and taking running backs.
 
Think back to 2005. Would we be better off if we'd taken Braylon Edwards at #2 and Frank Gore or Marion Barber in the 3rd round? To me, the answer was and is yes. Quality starting RBs are not that hard to find, a high first round pick is not required. Plus, this draft is loaded at RB and we happen to have some pretty good ones on the roster already (though with ?'s). If we want an insurance policy RB in this draft, a darn good one will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (though I'd likely still pass on a RB there because I think there will be better value picks than a RB in those spots... i.e. OL, TE, WR or anywhere on D).
 
X-Pacolypse said:
Football games are won and lost in the trenches. Boo Darren McFadden. Hooray Jake Long!
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The only possible move that would piss me off more then McFadden would be if we drafted Jake Long.

You got it right about winning in the trenches, but that's why we go with Long or Dorsey.
 
General Tso said:
Think back to 2005. Would we be better off if we'd taken Braylon Edwards at #2 and Frank Gore or Marion Barber in the 3rd round? To me, the answer was and is yes. Quality starting RBs are not that hard to find, a high first round pick is not required. Plus, this draft is loaded at RB and we happen to have some pretty good ones on the roster already (though with ?'s). If we want an insurance policy RB in this draft, a darn good one will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (though I'd likely still pass on a RB there because I think there will be better value picks than a RB in those spots... i.e. OL, TE, WR or anywhere on D).
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I agree with most of this, but my feeling is that BP won't like the question marks on some of our backup running backs, and he won't want to overpay a FA. So my hunch says look for us to take a Bill Parcells type of RB as Ronnie insurance.

Remember how pissed Parcells got at Julius Jones for tapping his helmet and wanting to come out of a game? Don't remember which game, but the network made a point of showing the look he shot J.Jones on the sidelines. BP likes his players mentally & physically tough, so I just see him using a pick on a guy come draft day before the lower rounds.
 
First off, I really like Darren McFadden and would love to see him in a Dolphins uniform.

That said, when you are in rebuilding mode, you DO NOT use the #1 pick in the draft on a player with a 5-8 year shelf life. I believe Bill Parcells has made mention numerous times that the #1 pick must net a player that's going to be around for 10-12 years. History tells you that the running back position normally isn't going to give you that kind of return on your investment.

In addition to that, the Dolphins already have Ronnie Brown, Ricky Williams, Lorenzo Booker, and, likely, Jesse Chatman. Like the QB position, you don't start 2 of them. While you do need depth, you don't need as much depth at the RB position as you need at other positions. Basically the Dolphins are set at RB BEFORE April's draft. Drafting McFadden with the #1 pick would be like the Patriots or Colts using the #1 pick on a QB. There's no business sense to it.

Then you have the salary cap ramifications to consider. Do you really want a part time player to be one of the highest paid on the team? Wouldn't it be better to spend that money on other positions of need?

While the Dolphins are in need of a lot of talent, you cannot take BPA at a position of strength ... especially when that position only fields ONE starter. If the Dolphins had 3 great linebackers and the BPA was also a linebacker, then it might make sense to draft that player since they start 4 of them. This situation is different. You just cannot afford to pay that much money to players that play the same position.

I will be absolutely SHOCKED if the Dolphins draft Darren McFadden while Ronnie Brown is still on the team. Since it's unlikely that Brown will be going anywhere, the smart money is on Chris Long, Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey, or Matt Ryan getting the call.
 
He looks good in a Fins uni but im sorry we dont even need him with Ronnie,Ricky,Chatman,Booker and if not chatman julius jones so i suggest we focus on some of the positions that require a good team to have like a good offensive and defensive line so we can atleast be in some games this year instead of the freakin jets defense killing us.
 
X-Pacolypse said:
Football games are won and lost in the trenches. Boo Darren McFadden. Hooray Jake Long!
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there are better prospects at LT/RT since long is stuck btw the 2 better hten him. CLady, Williams, Nicks, etc etc etc
 
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