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Ronnie Brown: Ready to Break Out

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In 2005 the Dolphins drafted #2 overall and there were many players in play to be selected. The list of possible suspects were Cedric Benson, Carnell Williams, Braylon Edwards, Alex Smith, and of course Ronnie Brown. I remember being totally stocked when Alex Smith went first because I was afraid that Saban wanted this guy. I didn’t ever think Braylon was a true possibility for us because we had Chris Chambers who was playing at a Pro-Bowl level at the time so I knew we were going Running Back; not to mention that Ricky Williams stuck it to the Dolphins just a few months prior. Cedric Benson was where I thought we were going but Nick Saban’s knowledge of the Auburn duo lead to us taking Ronnie Brown. Cadillac had more mileage and Ronnie Brown looked the part of being the better pro. The question remains, Was Ronnie Brown worth the 2nd overall selection in the 2005 NFL Draft?

I guess its still a matter of opinion but Running Back was a major need when our starter and best player on the team at the time Ricky Williams unexpectedly retired I feel that drafting Ronnie Brown was absolutely the right pick. In retrospect the only player I would rather have is Demarcus Ware; Shawn Merriman I would past on due to his problems with performing enhancing drugs and injury issues. Let’s look at how Ronnie stacks up against Cadillac Williams and Cedric Benson. The first flag is that Williams cannot stay healthy and I will not question the guys heart because he is trying to fight the injury but the truth is that he has a bad wheel and unfortunately you can only do so much. Benson had some off the field issues involving law enforcement where he was eventually arrested. Ronnie Brown did tear his ACL but after last years’ Pro-Bowl season I feel like it is safe to say that he rebounded quite nicely. In four seasons Ronnie Brown has rushed for 3,433 yards, caught 1,151 yards, and has a total of 25 touchdowns. Benson has rushed for 2,340 yards in that same time period, caught 365 yards, and has 12 touchdowns. Cadillac has rushed for 2,417 yards, caught for 337, and scored 14 touchdowns. Cleary statistically Ronnie Brown is the superior players. Devil’s advocate will say he has played more games but the bottom line is that injuries and off-field issues all play a part in how good you are as an overall football player because if you are not on the field you cannot produce.

While Benson and Williams have faded from their NFL spotlight, Ronnie Brown has started to emerge as a true play maker and revolutionized the game as we know it with his involvement in the “Wild-Cat” offense. If Ronnie Brown wasn’t heading the “Wild-Cat” last season the Dolphins are not Division Champions. In 2008 before tearing his ACL, Ronnie Brown was a one man show playing at not just a Pro-Bowl level but at a MVP level. Ronnie Brown became the face of the franchise and started to prove worthy of that #2 overall selection. He did get hurt though. A lot of players would have folded but he worked harder and harder to get back into game shape and had a marvelous 2009 season considering he had tore his ACL less than a year earlier. He also split carries with Ricky Williams which alterered his production in terms of statistics. His involvement in the Wild-Cat was simply exciting and most importantly productive,

In my honest opinion I value Ronnie Brown as a top five Running Back in the NFL and truly believe that his best years are ahead of him starting now. This is a contract year for Brown and he will have a full year of off-season training, is now removed from his ACL injury, and should see an increase in the workload. Not to mention that the Dolphins bolstered their offensive line with the addition of Jake Grove. This line should be stronger, meaner, and more run focused this season. I think Ronnie Brown is in for a good, if not great season. Once again he will be representing the AFC in the Pro-Bowl and I believe he will become an impact player in the NFL. Ricky Williams is starting to show signs of aging while Ronnie Brown has looked faster and stronger than ever.

The biggest issue with the big time Running Backs in this league is consistency. Steven Jackson, Larry Johnson, and LaDanian Tomlinson were all dominant Running Backs but have seen injuries and age seen a major decline in their play. The only true dominant all-around Running Back that I see currently is Adrian Peterson and in terms of overall production I see Ronnie Brown lingering around the top of this list. I mean take a look around the league and I can say without question I’d rather have him than the following starting backs… Jets (Thomas Jones), Patriots (Fred Taylor and Laurence Maroney), Broncos (Knowshon Moreno), Chiefs (Larry Johnson), Raiders (Darren McFadden and Justin Fargas), Colts (Joseph Addai), Texas (Steve Slaton), Ravens (Willis McGahee, Ray Rice, Leron McClain), Steelers (Willie Parker), Bengals (Cedric Benson), Browns (Jamal Lewis), Lions (Kevin Smith), Packers (Ryan Grant), 49ers (Frank Gore), Saints (Reggie Bush), Buccaneers (Derrick Ward), Cardinals (Tim Hightower), and Seahawks (Julius Jones). This accounts for 18 of the league’s Running Backs so let’s look at the rest. The guys who I will simply say have been flat out better than Ronnie Brown and who I would rather have on my team include Adrian Peterson, Brian Westbrook, Steven Jackson, and even despite the fact that I wouldn’t take him over Ronnie is Brandon Jacobs. Chris Johnson, Matt Forte, Maurice Jones Drew, Michael Turner, and DeAngelo Williams all had very good years but I am not about to give them the nod over Ronnie based off of one year. The people who are in the same class as Brown are Marshawn Lynch, Clinton Portis, and Marion Barber. That leaves just good ol’ LT who at this point I would not take over Ronnie. His production is down; he is always injured, and never plays well when it counts. So where do I see Ronnie as it compares to the rest of the league..

1) Adrian Peterson
2) Steven Jackson
3) Brian Westbrook
4) Brandon Jacobs
5) Clinton Portis
6) Ronnie Brown
7) Marion Barber
8) LaDanian Tomlinson
9) Marshawn Lynch
10) Maurice Jones Drew

I never been one to hide my belief that Ronnie Brown is an elite player and I have taken a lot of heat for it. I think this column is a fair evaluation of Ronnie Brown. The difference I see with a lot of the guys who hit thirty and start to decline is that he split carrier at Auburn with Caddy Williams and has for the most part split carrier with Ricky Williams in Miami. He will be 28 but he doesn't have the mileage that most backs do. I think 2009 will be the best season of Ronnie's career and will cement my belief that Ronnie is a Tier 1 Running Back.

Projected Stats
1,246 Rushing Yards
12 TD's
580 Receiving Yards
2 Receiving TD's

What do you think?

 
Hasn't he already broken out? when healthy he's one of the best, the only concern is can he carry the load and stay healthy?
 
first thing that jumped out at me....

4. Brandon Jacobs?

He has quickly jumped to into my top-5 overrated players in the NFL

What has he done that any other back behind that Giants O-Line (most underrated unit in football?) hasn't. Tiki Barber, then Jacobs, Ward, Bradshaw. He's nothing special.

Where are Chris Johnson and Michael Turner? I'd take Steve Slaton over Jacobs too. (EDIT - ok I see you addressed them...I just had an immediate reaction to Jacobs at #4)
 
reminds me of captain crunch in a box. let 'em out before he suffocates! don't forget when you draft #2 overall there is one less player in play to be selected.
 
first thing that jumped out at me....

4. Brandon Jacobs?

He has quickly jumped to into my top-5 overrated players in the NFL

What has he done that any other back behind that Giants O-Line (most underrated unit in football?) hasn't. Tiki Barber, then Jacobs, Ward, Bradshaw. He's nothing special.

Where are Chris Johnson and Michael Turner? I'd take Steve Slaton over Jacobs too. (EDIT - ok I see you addressed them...I just had an immediate reaction to Jacobs at #4)

I agree w/ you and I think he's going to have a very short career as a productive back b/c of the pounding he gives and takes.
 
Hasn't he already broken out? when healthy he's one of the best, the only concern is can he carry the load and stay healthy?

The year he got hurt, I feel he was playing as well as any RB in the NFL, so I'd agree that he's already broken out. But, he definitely wasn't the same player last season, so he kind of has to break out once more.
 
Well, he'd better hurry up and break out. Everyone's been predicting 1200+ yards a season rushing for him and, He's yet to hit it. Of course..Now I'll be a "Hater" because I shrug my shoulders and wait, for another year for it to be "the year". I hope, for Ronnie's sake, it is.

BTW...He was clearly the correct choice to make at the time, and, I've never spoken against drafting him.
 
We have been searching for a Quarterback since Marino retired and we had been searching for a Running Back even longer considering the bust of Sammie Smith, the burn and turn of Ricky Williams, the bust of James Johnson, the criminal of Cecil Collins, and everyone else. Lamar Smith was solid but quickly fazed out of Miami
 
Any top ten list that does not include Frank Gore has a huge problem.
Ronnie to this point has not been a better back than Gore. You talk about consistency but he and Thomas Jones are not even on the list and both have been better backs than Ronnie Brown.

Also every year someone predicts that Ronnie Brown will break out so maybe one year it may be true.
 
In terms of your rankings, I think you need to update them based on the end of last year and this offseason.

Ronnie is coming in healthy and we upgraded from Satele to Jake Grove (who has made Justin Fargas look like a pro bowl RB).

Westbrook is coming off yet another surgery and will not be 100% for tranining camp. Westbrook is no longer even a safe 1st round pick in fantasy football's 1st round (12 team drafts).

Portis really cooled off in the 2nd half of the season last year. I don't think he had even one 100 yard game in the 2nd half of the season. I no longer have him in my top 10 RBs.

LT2 might still be ranked as a top 10 RB but he could fall off the cliff soon.

Marshawn Lynch hasn't done jack sh*t to be worthy of being on anyone's top 10 list.

And I agree with others that Jacobs is not a top 10 RB talent in the NFL.

You're leaving out Turner, Forte, CJ3 and DeAngelo Williams. I personally think DeAngelo's backup Jonathan Stewart also has top 10 talent but he hasn't proven it yet.

Anyway, yeah - Ronnie was the right pick for us in 2005 and I like him to have a huge year. I have him much higher than others in my fantasy football rankings (non-PPR):

1.) Adrian Peterson - No doubt.
2.) Chris Johnson - Most explosive RB in the NFL but White steals GL TDs.
3.) Michael Turner - Beast but coming off a heavy load.
4.) Matt Forte - Smooth and tough and a great WR.
5.) Ronnie Brown - Great hands and power.
6.) DeAngelo Williams - Best RB in the NFL in the 2nd half of 2008.
7.) Maurice Jones-Drew - Can he carry the full load without Fred around?
8.) LT2 - Worth a pick here in fantasy even as he declines with age.
9.) Stephen Jackson - Rams added FA C Jamal Brown added.
10.) Knowshon Moreno - Just a feeling he will be that yearly rookie RB surprise addition to the top 10.
 
In terms of your rankings, I think you need to update them based on the end of last year and this offseason.

Ronnie is coming in healthy and we upgraded from Satele to Jake Grove (who has made Justin Fargas look like a pro bowl RB).

Westbrook is coming off yet another surgery and will not be 100% for tranining camp. Westbrook is no longer even a safe 1st round pick in fantasy football's 1st round (12 team drafts).

Portis really cooled off in the 2nd half of the season last year. I don't think he had even one 100 yard game in the 2nd half of the season. I no longer have him in my top 10 RBs.

LT2 might still be ranked as a top 10 RB but he could fall off the cliff soon.

Marshawn Lynch hasn't done jack sh*t to be worthy of being on anyone's top 10 list.

And I agree with others that Jacobs is not a top 10 RB talent in the NFL.

You're leaving out Turner, Forte, CJ3 and DeAngelo Williams. I personally think DeAngelo's backup Jonathan Stewart also has top 10 talent but he hasn't proven it yet.

Anyway, yeah - Ronnie was the right pick for us in 2005 and I like him to have a huge year. I have him much higher than others in my fantasy football rankings (non-PPR):

1.) Adrian Peterson - No doubt.
2.) Chris Johnson - Most explosive RB in the NFL but White steals GL TDs.
3.) Michael Turner - Beast but coming off a heavy load.
4.) Matt Forte - Smooth and tough and a great WR.
5.) Ronnie Brown - Great hands and power.
6.) DeAngelo Williams - Best RB in the NFL in the 2nd half of 2008.
7.) Maurice Jones-Drew - Can he carry the full load without Fred around?
8.) LT2 - Worth a pick here in fantasy even as he declines with age.
9.) Stephen Jackson - Rams added FA C Jamal Brown added.
10.) Knowshon Moreno - Just a feeling he will be that yearly rookie RB surprise addition to the top 10.

I like this list a LOT more....although I think Forte is too high and Stephen Jackson is too low. I'd actually probably just swap them, and add in Gore and Westbrook (I guess I'd drop Forte out at that point).
 
In terms of your rankings, I think you need to update them based on the end of last year and this offseason.

Ronnie is coming in healthy and we upgraded from Satele to Jake Grove (who has made Justin Fargas look like a pro bowl RB).

Westbrook is coming off yet another surgery and will not be 100% for tranining camp. Westbrook is no longer even a safe 1st round pick in fantasy football's 1st round (12 team drafts).

Portis really cooled off in the 2nd half of the season last year. I don't think he had even one 100 yard game in the 2nd half of the season. I no longer have him in my top 10 RBs.

LT2 might still be ranked as a top 10 RB but he could fall off the cliff soon.

Marshawn Lynch hasn't done jack sh*t to be worthy of being on anyone's top 10 list.

And I agree with others that Jacobs is not a top 10 RB talent in the NFL.

You're leaving out Turner, Forte, CJ3 and DeAngelo Williams. I personally think DeAngelo's backup Jonathan Stewart also has top 10 talent but he hasn't proven it yet.

Anyway, yeah - Ronnie was the right pick for us in 2005 and I like him to have a huge year. I have him much higher than others in my fantasy football rankings (non-PPR):

1.) Adrian Peterson - No doubt.
2.) Chris Johnson - Most explosive RB in the NFL but White steals GL TDs.
3.) Michael Turner - Beast but coming off a heavy load.
4.) Matt Forte - Smooth and tough and a great WR.
5.) Ronnie Brown - Great hands and power.
6.) DeAngelo Williams - Best RB in the NFL in the 2nd half of 2008.
7.) Maurice Jones-Drew - Can he carry the full load without Fred around?
8.) LT2 - Worth a pick here in fantasy even as he declines with age.
9.) Stephen Jackson - Rams added FA C Jamal Brown added.
10.) Knowshon Moreno - Just a feeling he will be that yearly rookie RB surprise addition to the top 10.


definately agree that Moreno will be top 10 but how u also can leaveThomas Jones and Frank Gore off the list is quite perplexing.
 
Ronnie is finally coming into a season following a productive year and good off-season. This is going to be his breakout year. You guys couldn't have said it any better But the Top 10's are just a little off. It should be more like...

1. Adrian Peterson - Duh.

2. Michael Turner - Won't be as productive as 2008 though.

3. Steven Jackson - People plan their entire week around him and he still produces...when healthy.

4. Ronnie Brown - Never been the true featured back, but has rare combination of power, speed, and great hands.

5. Frank Gore - I dont know how he managed to fall off all of your lists, this guy is a stud.

6. Brandon Jacobs - He did benefit from the O-Line, but what great Running Back hasn't?

7. LaDanian Tomlinson - Maybe last year was a fluke, or maybe this guy is human after all.

8. Brian Westbrook - Would be higher, but age and injury are gonna catch up soon.

9. Chris Johnson - Fastest RB in the league who consistantly runs downhill, a few more years he will be a top 3 back.

10. DeAngelo Williams - I dont know why but I am not quite sold on this guy yet. What he did last year cant go unnoticed though.
 
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