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Ronnie Brown's TD.

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From Steve Svekis Sun Sentenial.

Ronnie Brown: In his most ineffective rushing game of his young career (nine carries for 22 yards, zero yards in his final four carries), he still squeezed out a highlight-reel play on his 23-yard touchdown hurdling a defender and then stretching the ball just inside the pylon as he was being forced out of bounds. He is now at 176 rushes for 811 yards, ticking his season per-carry average down for the consecutive week, to 4.6 yards. He also has 28 catches for 208 yards. I think that the reach for the touchdown was very close to a fumble through the end zone for a Bills touchback. The official easily could have called it that way.

No way was this close to a fumble. I just watched the replay. He's way off on that remark.
 
Den54 said:
No way was this close to a fumble. I just watched the replay. He's way off on that remark.
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Fumble...? Since the game I've seen the replay few times and never once considered it a possible fumble. When the play happened I wasn't sure if he had stepped out of bounds but after the replay there was no doubt that it was a touchdown and great effort.
 
well, I thought he might have a point. it looked to me like the ball was coming loose as his hand crossed the goal line....I'm gunna go watch it again.
 
ima watch it too....

"Officials TO... We will be reviewing whether the player fumbled the ball before crossing the goal line..."
 
I just watched the highlight and its tough to tell from the copy I have. It didnt strike me as a fumble but I dont have great resolution. Looked like the ball didnt realy come out untill his arm hit the ground.
 
hdjetta6316 said:
ima watch it too....

"Officials TO... We will be reviewing whether the player fumbled the ball before crossing the goal line..."
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So did they actually review the play? All I have is the highlights.
 
After Reviewing the play there is not indisputable evidence to over turn the play. svekis will be charged a TO.


It's really close. The ball reamins in his hand as he hits the goal line, but it appears that he may have lost control of it before it crossed the goal line. Buffalo should have challenged...Unluckily i only have 2 angles to work with.
 
He already crossed the goaline. It's not a fumble.
 
I just watched Nub's video and couldn't tell, so i found it on my game tape. He was holding it by the point and pulled it away from his body and turned the ball so the back was now the front, giving him greater distance. After the ball crossed it came loose. As soon as I find my controller I'll watch it frame by frame but given what I just watched, it was a legit touchdown Ronnie Brown.
 
byroan said:
He already crossed the goaline. It's not a fumble.
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yeah remember guys it doesnt have to be in the endzone

it just has to touch that white chalk that ends the 1 yard line and begins the goaline
 
hdjetta6316 said:
After Reviewing the play there is not indisputable evidence to over turn the play. svekis will be charged a TO.
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:rofl3:
 
dolphan117 said:
So did they actually review the play? All I have is the highlights.
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No, at that point in the game the Bills were already out of timeouts. :D
 
hdjetta6316 said:
After Reviewing the play there is not indisputable evidence to over turn the play. svekis will be charged a TO.


It's really close. The ball reamins in his hand as he hits the goal line, but it appears that he may have lost control of it before it crossed the goal line. Buffalo should have challenged...Unluckily i only have 2 angles to work with.
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They couldn't challenge. Same thing happened against the Raiders the week before. Brown actually DID fumble on that one but it was ruled a touchdown. Once it is ruled a touchdown, that means the play is over and the play can no longer be challenged on whether it was a fumble or not. The only thing Oakland could do was to challenge if he cross the goalline or not. Had they dteremined he fumbled and Oakland recovered, it wouldn't have mattered, the ball would have still been Miami's.

Same thing applies here. It was already ruled a TD so it cannot be reviewed for a fumble. The only way fumbles can be reviewed are if they are called a fumble on the field and then challenged. Otherwise, dead ball calls end the play as is.

This is going to change next year however. The competetion commitee is planning on making down by contact/dead ball call reviewable. I don't see how they are going to do this though.

For example, say a QB gets the ball batted from his hand as he is started to throw and it is ruled incomplete pass. However, the defense picked it up and ran it 50 yards before hearing the whistle of a dead ball foul, and would have scored if it was a live ball. The play is challenged and determined that it was, in fact, a fumble. Where do you spot the ball? You can't give them the TD and you can't very well place the ball where they recovered it because it wouldn't be fair to the defensive team. Can of worms I tells ya.
 
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