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  • It is widely known that it takes on average three years to develop a productive QB in any NFL system. Yes there are exceptions and that is exactly what they are "exceptions".
  • This years top rated QB are typical: Smith is struggling and reports out of GB are that Rodgers is in danger of slipping to third string. The pressure from fans and franchises let alone the intricacies of the pro game can do more damage than good for number 1 picks.
  • Highly drafted QB's are no sure things. And in fact you may get more bang for your buck in the later rounds.
  • IMO there is no question we need to put a QB via the draft on the roster in 2006 and unless the guy is totally polished I would not do it in round one.
  • IMO we also need to position ourselves for a QB trade. If proven game changers like Moss and TO can get traded so can high profile QB's even if they are still in the developmental process.
  • Give me a dominate LT, DT, WR or shutdown corner in the top 15 and get your QB to develop in rounds 3-5.
 
i hope we are not in a position to get him. although it may be better long term for us. hopefully jacobs has another year like last year, i like him alot, from what ive sen of him. but your absolutely right, the reason i support aj playing is cuz if we had to draft a qb, thats gonna set our rebuilding back big time...
 
claytonAndDuper said:
i hope we are not in a position to get him. although it may be better long term for us. hopefully jacobs has another year like last year, i like him alot, from what ive sen of him. but your absolutely right, the reason i support aj playing is cuz if we had to draft a qb, thats gonna set our rebuilding back big time...
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it'd only be one year.. no?
 
finsnchips said:
Leinart is polished..
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Polished for the college game. NFL is an entirely different animal. He's not more polished than Eli Manning.
I've heard concerns about his arm strength. That it is just average. He's also not the most mobile guy in the world either.
 
you take the players that have the biggest chance of success in the NFL, first. thats why the worst team goes first. they have the best chance of getting a very good NFL player.

highly drafted QBs have a "better" chance of being sucessfull in the NFL. but the scouts can only go by what they do in college. they dont see how well they handle NFL life, or the NFL game.

IMO, the QB position is the hardest one to say, "this guy will be a great NFL player". its easy to say that about a SS or LB or WR or RB... but not QB. that position is more a mental thing than anything else.

very difficult to scout for. thats why so many highly draftd QBs fail.
 
Until they have a slotting system in place, I dont think I want another top 5 pick ... the expense increases the risk dramatically and places significant limitations on your cap. Next year's number one pick probably gets something like 27 Million guarenteed and 9 million per year average. I'd rather sign a FA or trade for someone. In fact, if we do end up with a high pick, I'd rather trade for an existing player than roll the dice with those stakes.
 
thedayafter said:
  • It is widely known that it takes on average three years to develop a productive QB in any NFL system. Yes there are exceptions and that is exactly what they are "exceptions".
  • This years top rated QB are typical: Smith is struggling and reports out of GB are that Rodgers is in danger of slipping to third string. The pressure from fans and franchises let alone the intricacies of the pro game can do more damage than good for number 1 picks.
  • Highly drafted QB's are no sure things. And in fact you may get more bang for your buck in the later rounds.
  • IMO there is no question we need to put a QB via the draft on the roster in 2006 and unless the guy is totally polished I would not do it in round one.
  • IMO we also need to position ourselves for a QB trade. If proven game changers like Moss and TO can get traded so can high profile QB's even if they are still in the developmental process.
  • Give me a dominate LT, DT, WR or shutdown corner in the top 15 and get your QB to develop in rounds 3-5.
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exactly what I was hoping was going to happen "THIS YEAR" so that the developmental QB in question was already on the roster. but we did not go that route, and IMO, that does in fact put us back a year in rebuilding. Unless Saban makes Feeley out to be that developmental QB. Instead of feeding him to the lions, he may be allowing him to digest the playbook better, learn Linehan's system better, and then give him his chance later this season. if he pans out fine. if not, then we follow your suggested plan and a year is lost. but in the meantime, the defense just got a lot younger and a lot more explosive.
 
jlfin said:
Polished for the college game. NFL is an entirely different animal. He's not more polished than Eli Manning.
I've heard concerns about his arm strength. That it is just average. He's also not the most mobile guy in the world either.
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i watched a lot of USC games.. personally, its scares me how much Tom Brady like he is... he has great poise and is just a flat out winner, two national champs, one heisman.. that could well read 3 and 2 after this season.
 
I wonder how rookie QBs who completed their senior years stand up to those who leave college early?

I agree it takes on average about three years to groom a rookie QB for ther starting role. I wonder if rookie QBs who completed their senior years in college need less time to be groomed?

Maybe ther fact Losman broke his leg his rookie year helped him more than it hindered him? It gave him more time to study the Buffalo Bills offense without being under pressure to be the starting QB.
 
  • A direction in regards to the QB position cannot be charted at this point.
  • This season is about establishing systems, attitudes and evaluating the talent on the roster. Only then will the staff be able to look at options.
  • I have a hard time understanding how some can take a position that this year is a waste.... mainly because it hasn't been played yet. Frerotte could be Gannon.... Feeley could be Bree's.... or not.
 
Dolphin-One said:
Maybe ther fact Losman broke his leg his rookie year helped him more than it hindered him? It gave him more time to study the Buffalo Bills offense without being under pressure to be the starting QB.
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i can tell you i would have been BEGGING for Losman to come in after bledsoe ****ED up half way through last season. but looking back, knowing we would not make the playoffs, i wish losman had gotten some experience.

so i dont think rookie QBs should start the season. but i do think they need SOME playing time in a real game before they are given the starting position.
(and by experience, i do not mean: "handing off the ball 10 times and then going back to the bench")
 
thedayafter said:
  • I saw that... reports are Garcia looks done... completely finished.
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That's funny, on Dan Patricks show they were saying Garcia is pushing Harrington for the starters job? I don't know, I don't really follow the Lions, but its interesting.
 
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