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I know we have seen it, lived it, breathed it, and discussed it...

I have read posts and threads (before the 2004 season)that state we tackle RBs 3, 4, 5 yds past the LOS. So I wanted to look at the Play-by-Play for this past Sunday...

Removing that long 30 Yds run by Bell, this Potent Denver attack averaged 1.3 YPC... and I still believe that Denver has a great Rushing Offense, we'll see that as the season unfold...

Traylor IMO made the difference, did his job like Bowens and Chester used to do. If he has to take on the double blocks, that will even give more room for the LBs and other DLs to make the plays, behind or around the line of scrimmage...

And after a quick look at the facts and stats:

Out of 20 Rush Attempts by Denver:

Our D had 5 tackles for losses...

Our D had 4 tackles for No Gains...

Our D had 2 tackles for Short Yardage (2 yds past the LOS)...

That is 45% (9 tackles) for LOSS or No Gains...

Traylor was the most dominant with 3 tackles, 1ea for loss, 1ea for No Gain, and 1ea for little gain (2 yds). Also was big in keeping blocks off Zack...

Zack had was next with 1ea for loss, and 2 for No Gain...

Now I looked up a couple games in 2003, where we gave up 23 Rushing attempts (compiled between both games), to Buffalo and the Jets...

Our D had 2 tackles for Loss...

Our D had 2 tackles for No Gain...

Our D had 7 tackles for Short Yardage...

That is 26% (4 tackles) for LOSS or No Gains...

We have shown improvement in one game, but for me, its a new way to look at our "New" Run Defense...

To me it's still early to count our eggs before they hatch, after all it's just one game. We will have our good fortunes as well as our misfortunes, as long as the good outweighs the bad, we will have a "Real Good Run Defense."

Bottom line, I wanted to see this type of Run stat reflected in another view, one that makes me more of an optimist...
 
Disnardo said:
I know we have seen it, lived it, breathed it, and discussed it...

I have read posts and threads (before the 2004 season)that state we tackle RBs 3, 4, 5 yds past the LOS. So I wanted to look at the Play-by-Play for this past Sunday...

Removing that long 30 Yds run by Bell, this Potent Denver attack averaged 1.3 YPC... and I still believe that Denver has a great Rushing Offense, we'll see that as the season unfold...

Traylor IMO made the difference, did his job like Bowens and Chester used to do. If he has to take on the double blocks, that will even give more room for the LBs and other DLs to make the plays, behind or around the line of scrimmage...

And after a quick look at the facts and stats:

Out of 20 Rush Attempts by Denver:

Our D had 5 tackles for losses...

Our D had 4 tackles for No Gains...

Our D had 2 tackles for Short Yardage (2 yds past the LOS)...

That is 45% (9 tackles) for LOSS or No Gains...

Traylor was the most dominant with 3 tackles, 1ea for loss, 1ea for No Gain, and 1ea for little gain (2 yds). Also was big in keeping blocks off Zack...

Zack had was next with 1ea for loss, and 2 for No Gain...

Now I looked up a couple games in 2003, where we gave up 23 Rushing attempts (compiled between both games), to Buffalo and the Jets...

Our D had 2 tackles for Loss...

Our D had 2 tackles for No Gain...

Our D had 7 tackles for Short Yardage...

That is 26% (4 tackles) for LOSS or No Gains...

We have shown improvement in one game, but for me, its a new way to look at our "New" Run Defense...

To me it's still early to count our eggs before they hatch, after all it's just one game. We will have our good fortunes as well as our misfortunes, as long as the good outweighs the bad, we will have a "Real Good Run Defense."

Bottom line, I wanted to see this type of Run stat reflected in another view, one that makes me more of an optimist...


Good post. The Broncos running game is always potent - much better and more consistent than the Jets'. The Broncos O-line almost always dominates and any back that runs behind it seems to excel. I think we will overwhelm the Jets O-line much the same as we did the Broncos and Penny will be forced to beat us through the air- and he won't be able to. That's why the Dolphins are going to win this game.
 
Denver has always been billed as the OL that any back can run behind. That is no secret, with that said, MAN ARE THE JETS IN TROUBLE!
 
SCall13 said:
Good post. The Broncos running game is always potent - much better and more consistent than the Jets'. The Broncos O-line almost always dominates and any back that runs behind it seems to excel. I think we will overwhelm the Jets O-line much the same as we did the Broncos and Penny will be forced to beat us through the air- and he won't be able to. That's why the Dolphins are going to win this game.
I really hate to say this but our secondary is not very good.....there were a few times last week when Denver had guys open but because of pressure and poor precision passing they weren't complete..we lucked out a few times. Mark my words if our secondary doesn't step it up a little we'll be sorry.
 
Good Post. Denver has always had a good running game and we stuffed it.

We need to do the same thing with the Jet's and get lots of presure on the Chad or Jay whom ever is at QB.

Go Dolphins
 
IBleedAqua said:
I really hate to say this but our secondary is not very good.....there were a few times last week when Denver had guys open but because of pressure and poor precision passing they weren't complete..we lucked out a few times. Mark my words if our secondary doesn't step it up a little we'll be sorry.


And pressure will be put on Pennington just the same. If The Jests are rendered one-demensional like the Broncos were, then we'll just tee off on Penny just like we did Plummer. Our defensive front is more than capable of getting pressure quickly and I'm confident that we'll do it to a much less mobile Chad Pennington.

As dominant as our defense was against the Pats, it's hard to say how BAD our secondary is. For all we know, they will excel in this new scheme. I do know that most of Plummers yards were "junk yards" that were basically given in the 4th quarter of the game.
 
IBleedAqua said:
I really hate to say this but our secondary is not very good.....there were a few times last week when Denver had guys open but because of pressure and poor precision passing they weren't complete..we lucked out a few times. Mark my words if our secondary doesn't step it up a little we'll be sorry.

Our secondary played well last game. Most of the time Plummer had to throw the ball away because no one was open.
 
IBleedAqua said:
I really hate to say this but our secondary is not very good.....there were a few times last week when Denver had guys open but because of pressure and poor precision passing they weren't complete..we lucked out a few times. Mark my words if our secondary doesn't step it up a little we'll be sorry.

You do have a point, but you have to remember that a big part of pass defense is pressuring the QB. As long as we can keep the pressure on Pennington/Fiedler/Whoever our secondary doesnt have to be absolutely perfect and will have time to adjust as the game progresses. Also, let's not forget that for every wide open shot the Broncos missed there was a play where Plummer had enough time to go through his reads and nobody got open.
It's an adjustment that we're capable of making this week.
 
byroan said:
Our secondary played well last game. Most of the time Plummer had to throw the ball away because no one was open.
Agreed. WR's will get seperation. That's why it's good when the opposing QB sucks. WR's are paid to get open. Even Ed Reed and Champ Bailey don't shut down a player all game long. A WR will get his touches. The good DB's just limit the probability.
 
I would also say that there were a few plays where we had no pressure, plummer still couldn't find anyone. It went both ways.
 
IBleedAqua said:
I really hate to say this but our secondary is not very good.....there were a few times last week when Denver had guys open but because of pressure and poor precision passing they weren't complete..we lucked out a few times. Mark my words if our secondary doesn't step it up a little we'll be sorry.
I guess, you could be right as well as wrong...

We also had guys opened and guys that dropped passes that could have scored more points. How many more passes could we have completed ? Every team has a defense that drop INTs, let WRs get open. With Surtain and Madison there were times that we gave up big plays, as well as times that they were lucky the QBs were not looking their way...

It happens NO ONE is perfect, but if you keep that QB running for his life, he won't see those open guys, that is what sometimes makes a good to greast D against the pass.

We gave up an average of 5.2 YPA and that was to a QB that was ranked # 4 (had 7.8 YPA), in 2004, you don't consider it an improvement?

After what you saw in the Pre-Season, we are now 3rd in the NFL in Completions Percentage in 1 game...

IMO, the reason we did great against the pass was because we made them one-dimensional, you keep any team for running effectively and they will also have trouble passing if the Defense attacks them correctly.

We had 9 carries (minus 61 yds for CC run), for 18 yds running the ball in the 1st half. We had 18 carries for 72 yds in the 2nd half, that was what hurt the Broncos, we had the tempo then and maintained all through the rest of the game...

This is the way you plan against an opponent, you don't want them running the ball and controlling the tempo...
 
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