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Russell Wilson could have been a Miami Dolphin

You do realize, the only reason he is holding that sign is because the Patriots are playing?


roy_miami said:
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Dolphins512 said:
I somewhat agree to this. Russell Wilson is a very good QB for his time in the league and will likely continue to develop like RT will. We will see what history has in store for both of these guys. However, to say Russell Wilson is the BIGGEST reason that team is in the Superbowl for a 2nd year in a row is going way too far. An outstanding running game and one of the best defenses we have seen in the last 10 years is why that team is in back to back Superbowls. Wilson does his part......but he certainly isn't the "BIGGEST" reason for their success.
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As a unit, the Seattle defense will end up being one of the great one's (they already are). . . especially if they can find a way to win Sunday and boast the fact that they knocked off this past generations 2 greatest QB's (Manning and Brady) in consecutive Super Bowls.

But Russell is the "Difference Maker" on that team and you can get rid of any player on that team and still do the things you've done . . . except for Russell Wilson. You can lose Lynch, and they have a workhorse behind him in Robert Turbin . . . you can lose a Richard Sherman, and they have guys who can fill in to keep that team going. Russell has been so good, I'm willing to give him the credit that if Seattle's defense wasn't "as" good as they are, he would of found a way to elevate his game to get the team to the level they are right now.

The guy is a great QB and I get tired of people wanting to discredit him or think it's all the system. Those clutch passes in the 4th quarter and OT in the Green Bay weren't the system, that was a top QB making plays to get his team into their 2nd consecutive Super Bowl.
 
mialuv13 said:
Yes to most of your post, but NO! The DEFENSE is the BIGGEST reason that team is in the Super Bowl again. The team gave up 3, 3, 14, 7, 6, 6 points in the last 6 games of the season. They also embarrassed the **** out of Denver's highest powered offense in the history of the NFL last year because of their defense. Let's not pretend that having a once in a generation defense two straight years is not the BIGGEST reason to be in back to back Super Bowls.

Wilson is really good and fits the Seattle system perfectly. He's accurate, makes plays on his own, find the right plays and never gives up. That what you ask for in a championship caliber QB. But they would not be in the Super Bowl again if not for a defense that allowed 3 points and 3 first downs in the second half of the NFC championship game to give their offense plenty of chances to make an amazing comeback, a fake kick for a TD, a 24 yard Marshawn TD, and an improbably onside recovery. Wilson is exceptional, but Seattle is great because of their defense.

And the BIGGEST difference maker is Marshawn. The guy completely took over the game at the end which caused GB to stack the box giving Wilson a chance to do what he does best and hit a great deep ball. There is no knock on Wilson, his game has been great and he fits Seattle perfectly. That's a complete team and every player works together to get it done. Wilson is a top 10 QB because he's a playmaker and does what he has to to put his team in the right spot consistently. That's the mark of a great QB who works with above average WRs, but no true #1 guy. He's fortunate to be on a team that can overcome an uncharacteristic 4 INTs in the NFC championship game.
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Absolutely not. Robert Turbin is a VERY capable back with another pound em running style. Marshawn is great, but Russell is the straw that stirs the drink which is the Seattle Seahawks.

He had 4 INT's in the NFC championship game . . . it's just a number to fantasy guys . . . when you watch the game, you see is greatness on display by continuing to keep his team upbeat, throwing the ball down the field and when an opportunity presented itself, make ELITE throws down the field.

The guy is a top 5 QB for TODAY's NFL and Seattle did well to nab him when they did.
 
Kdawg954 said:
As a unit, the Seattle defense will end up being one of the great one's (they already are). . . especially if they can find a way to win Sunday and boast the fact that they knocked off this past generations 2 greatest QB's (Manning and Brady) in consecutive Super Bowls.

But Russell is the "Difference Maker" on that team and you can get rid of any player on that team and still do the things you've done . . . except for Russell Wilson. You can lose Lynch, and they have a workhorse behind him in Robert Turbin . . . you can lose a Richard Sherman, and they have guys who can fill in to keep that team going. Russell has been so good, I'm willing to give him the credit that if Seattle's defense wasn't "as" good as they are, he would of found a way to elevate his game to get the team to the level they are right now.

The guy is a great QB and I get tired of people wanting to discredit him or think it's all the system. Those clutch passes in the 4th quarter and OT in the Green Bay weren't the system, that was a top QB making plays to get his team into their 2nd consecutive Super Bowl.
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Naaah....

Wilson's play the first 50 minutes of that game left a lot to be desired. You could easily argue that Wilson's poor play caused that game to have to go into OT.

I'm a Wilson fan, and think he is a very good and intelligent QB.....but the biggest difference maker on that team....no by a long shot.

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Daytona Fin said:
You do realize, the only reason he is holding that sign is because the Patriots are playing?
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Good for RT. I hope the Pats lose by 30 points
 
Dolphins512 said:
Naaah....

Wilson's play the first 50 minutes of that game left a lot to be desired. You could easily argue that Wilson's poor play caused that game to have to go into OT.

I'm a Wilson fan, and think he is a very good and intelligent QB.....but the biggest difference maker on that team....no by a long shot.
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An unusual stretch of bad play which was rectified by greatness towards the end and into OT. What top QB hasn't had those stretches? We can argue a lot of things, what can't be argued is how Wilson performed late to get his team into the Super Bowl.

Hell the great Aaron Rodgers wen't up against Buffalo a few weeks earlier and was 17 of 42 (he started like a ridiculous 4 for 22 or something like that) with 0 TDs and 2 INTs . . . in the middle of the playoff race. It happens man.
 
Turbin isn't in the same ballpark as lynch when it comes to physical downhill running...lynch is the tone setter...no one else on that offense in that regard comes close
 
Bottom line Wilson is an excellent QB who came in with lots of college experience and had good coaching from day one. Couple this with a stifling defense and very strong running game and you have a super bowl team.
Our guy on the other hand had little college experience , subpar coaching his first two years and little help from the running game until last year.
One is at the top of his game on a great team and the other is making strives to get there on a not so great team (yet)
It's not an either or situation. Both teams are better because of their QB.
 
Vaark said:



I guarantee you that a helluva lot more GMs would take Tannehill over Wilson as QB than PHilbin over Carroll as their HC

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You think there's a GM who would take Tannehill over Wilson?
 
Kdawg954 said:
An unusual stretch of bad play which was rectified by greatness towards the end and into OT. What top QB hasn't had those stretches? We can argue a lot of things, what can't be argued is how Wilson performed late to get his team into the Super Bowl.

Hell the great Aaron Rodgers wen't up against Buffalo a few weeks earlier and was 17 of 42 (he started like a ridiculous 4 for 22 or something like that) with 0 TDs and 2 INTs . . . in the middle of the playoff race. It happens man.
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Sorry, I just don't agree. I like Wilson, but lots of QB's would be successful on that team.
 
Yessir said:
If quarterbacking is as simple as riding a great team, then why haven't the Bengals, who have Super Bowl level skill posistion talent, and a defense to boot, why can't they get to the next level, since it's so easy? I'll tell you why? Cuz their QB is a trash can masquerading as a quarterback.
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I never said it was "easy", just that it was "easier" than taking a team with loads of issues, like Miami, and getting them to the playoffs. I agree that Dalton is a very overrated QB; the guy's not clutch at all and underachieves. Wilson is clutch, Tannehill isn't always clutch BUT has put together game-winning drives before, so again, I can't buy into the "Tannehill doesn't elevate this team" idea, I just don't see it. If anything, I think he's been one of the better performers on this offense over the time he's been here, despite his ups and downs.
 
Kdawg954 said:
An unusual stretch of bad play which was rectified by greatness towards the end and into OT. What top QB hasn't had those stretches? We can argue a lot of things, what can't be argued is how Wilson performed late to get his team into the Super Bowl.

Hell the great Aaron Rodgers wen't up against Buffalo a few weeks earlier and was 17 of 42 (he started like a ridiculous 4 for 22 or something like that) with 0 TDs and 2 INTs . . . in the middle of the playoff race. It happens man.
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Are we watching the same Seahawks week after week?...

If Russell Wilson played for Miami, this board would be decidedly in favor of continuing the QB search.
 
FishTank said:
Are we watching the same Seahawks week after week?...

If Russell Wilson played for Miami, this board would be decidedly in favor of continuing the QB search.
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HUH? What do you guys see that Tannehill can do that Wilson can't? Wilson can't throw slants and outs? Wilson not as mobile? I hope Tannehill turns the corner this year and I think there's a decent chance he does but I don't understand the lack of credit given to Wilson. Let's live in reality guys! I'll drop it
 
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