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Discussions on Ryan Tannehill include topics such as speed/timing on pass plays, the deep ball, pocket awareness, etc. Ryan himself said today that he wants to take the next step, and has been working hard. I’m not aware of any training or program he’s been in this year, although in 2013, (the year Sherman declared he would be most improved QB), Ryan did attend the IMG Academy in Bradenton, and worked with Chris Weinke. (Weinke has also helped other QB’s like Russell Wilson and Cam Newton)

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Even if we see only modest improvement this year for Ryan in terms of personal ability, his productivity will rise automatically if we manage to fix the running game, and by extension, allow him to do something he’s been excelling at since day one: The Play-Action pass.

In 2012, Ryan had the second highest passer rating on play-action passes. PFF had his QB rating at 121 with play action, and 67.7 without it.

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In 2013, Ryan again did very well with limited play-action, but the running game struggled. Now we have a new OC, and his former QB used a LOT of play-action, as well as deep ball passing attempts. He was in the top 10 for both. So I can only assume Lazor recognizes this, sees the potential, and hopes to continue to develop the offense in both of these areas. (Play-Action and Deep Ball).

Top 10 play action usage:
#NameTeam% PA
1 Russell WilsonSEA34.3
2 Christian PonderMIN33.0
3 Terrelle PryorOAK31.5
4 Cam NewtonCAR30.1
5 Robert Griffin IIIWAS29.9
6 Nick FolesPHI29.6
7 Colin KaepernickSF28.3
8 Peyton ManningDEN27.7
9 Chad HenneJAX27.6
10 Kellen ClemensSL27.3
.
Bottom 10 play action usage:
#NameTeam% PA
30 Carson PalmerARZ15.4
31 Eli ManningNYG15.3
32 Ryan TannehillMIA15.0
33 Joe FlaccoBLT14.1
34 Jake LockerTEN14.1
35 Matt RyanATL13.8
36 Tony RomoDAL12.2
37 Philip RiversSD11.9
38 Ben RoethlisbergerPIT11.5
39 Ryan FitzpatrickTEN10.2
.

The Pittsburgh Steelers’ fans seem to be going through similar hand wringing over the running game and whether more play action was necessary. At SB Nation in February, fans noted that Ben Roethlisberger used less play-action than any other QB in the league last year, and that other very successful teams used much more of it:

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2014/2/9/5394694/steelers-2013-offensive-passing-statistics

Pro Football Focus @PFF Follow No QB used play-action less than Ben Roethlisberger at just 11.6% in 2013. Russell Wilson led NFL at 34.1% PA.
11:32 AM - 7 Feb 2014
There are two primary culprits involved with the Steelers' lack of desire to use play-action; 1. The Steelers ran the ball worse than nearly every team in the league. 2. They often utilized Roethlisberger in shotgun and motioned running back Le'Veon Bell out of the backfield to utilize his ability as a receiver.

The top five teams in terms of percentage use of play-action are Seattle, Philadelphia, Washington, Carolina and San Francisco. Four of those five teams are in the top five for rushing yards in 2013 - in order, Philadelphia, Buffalo, San Francisco, Seattle and Washington. Carolina is 11th.

While the 49ers, Seahawks, Redskins and Panthers have the added element of quarterbacks with the ability to gain the edge and get down field, it's obvious why they would utilize play-action while leaning on their running game.

It’s worth noting, that since that article was published, they let go of Cotchery and picked up Blount. They’re still a passing team, not a running team, but they definitely want to run more effectively, and get TD's in the red zone. Ideally, so do we....
 
Hopefully the running game is more effective this season and we can utilize play action often.
 
That's it in a nut shell. With out a viable running threat it fools no one.
 
Another reason tannehill will be better. Even Peyton manning had a 1000 yard rusher. Tom Brady did too in 2012. The best QBs are complimented with a good running game. One reason i might sign cj2k 2 1000 yard rushers from last year is much improved
 
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Discussions on Ryan Tannehill include topics such as speed/timing on pass plays, the deep ball, pocket awareness, etc. Ryan himself said today that he wants to take the next step, and has been working hard. I’m not aware of any training or program he’s been in this year, although in 2013, (the year Sherman declared he would be most improved QB), Ryan did attend the IMG Academy in Bradenton, and worked with Chris Weinke. (Weinke has also helped other QB’s like Russell Wilson and Cam Newton)

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Even if we see only modest improvement this year for Ryan in terms of personal ability, his productivity will rise automatically if we manage to fix the running game, and by extension, allow him to do something he’s been excelling at since day one: The Play-Action pass.

In 2012, Ryan had the second highest passer rating on play-action passes. PFF had his QB rating at 121 with play action, and 67.7 without it.

sigpap1-1.png



In 2013, Ryan again did very well with limited play-action, but the running game struggled. Now we have a new OC, and his former QB used a LOT of play-action, as well as deep ball passing attempts. He was in the top 10 for both. So I can only assume Lazor recognizes this, sees the potential, and hopes to continue to develop the offense in both of these areas. (Play-Action and Deep Ball).

Top 10 play action usage:
#NameTeam% PA
1 Russell WilsonSEA34.3
2 Christian PonderMIN33.0
3 Terrelle PryorOAK31.5
4 Cam NewtonCAR30.1
5 Robert Griffin IIIWAS29.9
6 Nick FolesPHI29.6
7 Colin KaepernickSF28.3
8 Peyton ManningDEN27.7
9 Chad HenneJAX27.6
10 Kellen ClemensSL27.3
.
Bottom 10 play action usage:
#NameTeam% PA
30 Carson PalmerARZ15.4
31 Eli ManningNYG15.3
32 Ryan TannehillMIA15.0
33 Joe FlaccoBLT14.1
34 Jake LockerTEN14.1
35 Matt RyanATL13.8
36 Tony RomoDAL12.2
37 Philip RiversSD11.9
38 Ben RoethlisbergerPIT11.5
39 Ryan FitzpatrickTEN10.2
.

The Pittsburgh Steelers’ fans seem to be going through similar hand wringing over the running game and whether more play action was necessary. At SB Nation in February, fans noted that Ben Roethlisberger used less play-action than any other QB in the league last year, and that other very successful teams used much more of it:

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2014/2/9/5394694/steelers-2013-offensive-passing-statistics




It’s worth noting, that since that article was published, they let go of Cotchery and picked up Blount. They’re still a passing team, not a running team, but they definitely want to run more effectively, and get TD's in the red zone. Ideally, so do we....

That post looks like a lot of work :thanks:
 
Nice stats.

This is a strong point in his game. Sure he has weaknesses. We debate them often.

Having a viable running game is a key to his success more so than other QBs who don't have such a good PA

I hope our new OC (I think he does) understands how to put together the pieces that optimizes RTs play. I believe if you put the kid in the position to win he will. He can't carry the team week in and week out. That's an unreasonable position. Set up the scheme to make him a success. He is not the scheme.
 
Sure is nice having a REAL OC instead of that loser Sherman.

Right WV??
 
You remind me of a parrot, can only repeat one thing you heard on tv

Please don't insult parrots like that. They have a much more extensive vocabulary and are leaps and bounds more intelligent than this kid.

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Please don't insult parrots like that. They have a much more extensive vocabulary and are leaps and bounds more intelligent than this kid.

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You really are Evil... where is the nice version?
 
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