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Ryan Tannehill Isn't the Dolphins' Long-Term Solution at QB

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He'll be entering his age-30 season in 2018, putting him between being a young quarterback who's still developing and an old one who's decaying. Dolphins head coach Adam Gase may whisper sweet nothings about his quarterback in the offseason, as he did while speaking to the media Wednesday. But his actions when Tannehill was healthy carry much more weight.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2761988-ryan-tannehill-isnt-the-dolphins-long-term-solution-at-qb

Yes another Tannehill thread. Until the draft comes get used to these topics.

I need someone who isn’t a Tannehill lover or extreme hater’s honest opinion on how close or far this article is, it is bleacher report btw.
 
What's your definition of "long-term"? 7-10 years? Probably not, but he's probably the QB for at least the next 2-3 I'd imagine.
 
Keeping my opinion of him out, it would just be premature to give up on tannehill before this year.

Theres plenty of things that both sides can use to support their opinion and it's all relevant

You esstenialy have to give him another shot this year after seeing the stretch he put together under gase. You see games like zona and San Fran and you just cannot say he isn't a franchise qb you can put your trust in he checked damn near every box

But during that same stretch you see the games vs Baltimore and the first 57 minutes vs the rams and it certainly raises questions. It gives you the flashbacks to his prior years

Then again you see the comeback vs the rams and you say yup that's my guy

You really just gotta let this season decide things. Take the blinders off understand that he's 30 and hasn't played in awhile and consider the circumstances I discussed above

It's why drafting a qb in the first makes plenty of sense there's essentially three ways this can go: he earns and keeps the gig, he disappoints and it's time to move on, or the injury affects him. Two of those three scenarios you need a new QB

Now my opinion is he's legit. I'm a tannehill supporter but I really welcome the idea of mayfield/rosen
 
ANMoore said:
Keeping my opinion of him out, it would just be premature to give up on tannehill before this year.

Theres plenty of things that both sides can use to support their opinion and it's all relevant

You esstenialy have to give him another shot this year after seeing the stretch he put together under gase. You see games like zona and San Fran and you just cannot say he isn't a franchise qb you can put your trust in he checked damn near every box

But during that same stretch you see the games vs Baltimore and the first 57 minutes vs the rams and it certainly raises questions. It gives you the flashbacks to his prior years

Then again you see the comeback vs the rams and you say yup that's my guy

You really just gotta let this season decide things. Take the blinders off understand that he's 30 and hasn't played in awhile and consider the circumstances I discussed above

It's why drafting a qb in the first makes plenty of sense there's essentially three ways this can go: he earns and keeps the gig, he disappoints and it's time to move on, or the injury affects him. Two of those three scenarios you need a new QB

Now my opinion is he's legit. I'm a tannehill supporter but I really welcome the idea of mayfield/rosen
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Mostly Mayfield, and somewhat Rosen are the only QBs I'd like to see us take - unless someone like Linton or Woodside are available in the 3rd or 4th. Otherwise, Tannehill has shown he's effective long and in general QBR when he has time to set up and throw vs contending with the 31st and last ranked OLs so, if either of those 2 QBs are unavailable, we should really be using that first pick on one of the 2 stud OGs if still around or a TE.
 
I think the silent majority of fans are either indifferent, or at least guarded in their optimism.

His biggest pro’s are that he’s experienced in the offense, improved in 2016 in a small sample size; is better than any other option on the roster and probably free agency; isn’t Jay Cutler; and usually looks good against teams the Dolphins are supposed to beat.

His con’s are that he will be 18+ months from his last start when he finally plays again; is now officially an injury risk; mobility may not be what it once was; and lacks tangible success vs. elite competition, and especially on the road in his own division, which is where you earn your paycheck.

The team can win with him, but there wouldn’t be much heartburn from most fans if his heir apparent was drafted this year.
 
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Mostly Mayfield, and somewhat Rosen are the only QBs I'd like to see us take - unless someone like Linton or Woodside are available in the 3rd or 4th. Otherwise, Tannehill has shown he's effective long and in general QBR when he has time to set up and throw vs contending with the 31st and last ranked OLs so, if either of those 2 QBs are unavailable, we should really be using that first pick on one of the 2 stud OGs if still around or a TE.
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I agree for my money the only ones worth a shot in the first are baker and Rosen. We need OL help but I try to think practically so I don't get let down and I've never heard/seen anything from gase/fo that suggests they value the offensive line (especially guard) enough to burn our pick on it. The tunsil thing was an exception for obvious reasons

At te my favorites right now are gesicki and hurst. I think there's a shot at #43 but really whoever we end up w/ is likely an upgrade
 
I'm starting to believe this and I like Ryan. It seems like we're in position to get a impact player on defense and I heard, before the combine hype train, this years QB class is not even as good as last years. If we draft Mayfield at 11 it speaks volumes. Our defense is going to suck without LB help.
 
"NFL LIVE" on ESPN just had a nice piece on their segment "over-reaction Monday" about the Fins and 2 out of 3 panelists agreed that the Dolphins have the most questions entering 2018 in the AFC East than any of the other 3 teams. And that says a lot considering that 2 of the other 3 teams don't have a QB!!!!!! Interesting.
 
Dolph N.Fan said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2761988-ryan-tannehill-isnt-the-dolphins-long-term-solution-at-qb


I need someone who isn’t a Tannehill lover or extreme hater’s honest opinion on how close or far this article is, it is bleacher report btw.
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It is off by a good distance.

Tannehill is not still developing, he was thriving when he finally got a decent system that he ate for lunch once a few games passed.

The guy suggests that Gase didn’t allow him to throw deep, but he was tied for 5th in 40 yard passing plays (with 3.5 games left) and tied for 7th in YPA.

And that was with 5 games of piss poor offensive line play fueled by a trio of shitty draft picks. Can’t set up anything when you constantly are on the run every snap.

The idea that a 29 year old QB is decaying is pretty damn funny though, especially with 5 years starting under his belt.

I am pretty sure old man Kirk Cousins agrees with me.

The knee injury history is the only concern . . . .only because of a questionable decision not to have surgery from the get go which made the timeline go from 8 or 9 months to 20 months. In theory, he should be a green light and ready to continue where he left off in 2016 . . . Killing ****.

That said I get the franchise maybe wanting to hedge their bets on a young QB if there is a guy they really like there. But IMO that is less to do with any skill issue that Tannehill has and more about insurance and preventing what happened the previous year by adding another quarterback with some true upside that can likely be a backup and also retain value if need be.
 
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It is off by a good distance.

Tannehill is not still developing, he was thriving when he finally got a decent system that he ate for lunch once a few games passed.

The guy suggests that Gase didn’t allow him to throw deep, but he was tied for 5th in 40 yard passing plays (with 3.5 games left) and tied for 7th in YPA.

And that was with 5 games of piss poor offensive line play fueled by a trio of ****ty draft picks. Can’t set up anything when you constantly are on the run every snap.

The idea that a 29 year old QB is decaying is pretty damn funny though, especially with 5 years starting under his belt.

I am pretty sure old man Kirk Cousins agrees with me.

The knee injury history is the only concern . . . .only because of a questionable decision not to have surgery from the get go which made the timeline go from 8 or 9 months to 20 months. In theory, he should be a green light and ready to continue where he left off in 2016 . . . Killing ****.

That said I get the franchise maybe wanting to hedge their bets on a young QB if there is a guy they really like there. But IMO that is less to do with any skill issue that Tannehill has and more about insurance and preventing what happened the previous year by adding a backup with some true upside that can retain value if need be.
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I know I was excited to see what he could do in Year 2 of Gase's system...but the knee injury just sank that thought last season.

Personally, I don't think he's a guy that's going to be here for 10 more seasons, but I don't know that you can ever count on a QB to play til he's 40 at a high level, with a few expectations of course. That's not to say that he can't play here for 5-7 more years, should he light it up this year and we don't decide to move on from him.

Though I'm in the "draft a QB in Rounds 1/2" camp this year, if Tannehill lights it up this year, I'm not going to throw him out next year for the sake of throwing him out because I've got a guy waiting in the wings. I'm going to ride that horse for a few seasons and see where it takes me...after all, the bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush.

My biggest gripe with Tannehill since he's been in Miami has been his inconsistency. He'll have a great game and follow it up with a dud, and the cycle will repeat itself ad nauseum. It did seem like he finally got it together in 2016, especially once we had a running game established, and I think if we gave him some weapons, he'd do pretty good.

If Gase is absolutely in love with a guy like Rosen or Mayfield and sees him as "the guy", then I think you draft him. After all, these guys are in their early 20s, almost a decade younger than RT17. It's easy to see why we'd take a chance on one, especially if we have a repeat of this past offseason....better to throw a young guy into the fire and see what he has rather than spend a Brinks truck on an old guy. That said, and I know the team catches **** for not having this "backup" plan...but I don't think anyone could have seen the knee injury going the way it did, and I think that Moore was never going to be a guy you go a full season with.

As for Tannehill's future with the team? If he does well this year, it means he's probably gotten us to the playoffs, which I'd be happy with....if he does well, he probably buys himself at least through the end of his contract with the team. If he strings together 2-3 more good years? Probably gets another contract. It's tough to foresee the future, after all, if I could, I'd be a very rich man by now.
 
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