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Thanks for these. I was wondering if someone would do it.

Question. You don’t think that rotating safety can continue to flow middle of the field and impact that grant deep post route If Tannehill pivots off that bottom side I guess it’s wilson deep route? I’m referring to the int play.

To me the only reason that safety stops there is tannehills head and eyes are shifted to the side he throws to.

Also thanks for posting 3 bang on examples of gesicki. First he gets walled off in his stem vs 1 on 1 coverage with zero help forcing tanny to come off him either by a safety or a corner I’d guess safety I can’t tell. But regardless your tight end can’t get walled off like that vs damn dbs.

The next play he can’t impede a damn off the los primary lb in Kyle Van Noy long enough for Tannehill to be able to stay on the spot and make the deep throw. Why isn’t smythe being used for these? Yeah I know they brought their lbs to the los a lot to rush etc but yeesh it’s not Trey flowers ask.

And the last he gets redirected in the stem so bad he’s way off the mark coming out of the cut. And off balance as a result to boot.
 
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Thank you for taking the time to do these, I enjoy the read and figuring out the truth to the story.
 
Aqua ‘N Orange said:
Thanks for these. I was wondering if someone would do it.

Question. You don’t think that rotating safety can continue to flow middle of the field and impact that grant deep post route If Tannehill pivots off that bottom side I guess it’s wilson deep route? I’m referring to the int play.

To me the only reason that safety stops there is tannehills head and eyes are shifted to the side he throws to.

Also thanks for posting 3 bang on examples of gesicki. First he gets walled off in his stem vs 1 on 1 coverage with zero help forcing tanny to come off him either by a safety or a corner I’d guess safety I can’t tell. But regardless your tight end can’t get walled off like that vs damn dbs.

The next play he can’t impede a damn off the los primary lb in Kyle Van Noy long enough for Tannehill to be able to stay on the spot and make the deep throw. Why isn’t smythe being used for these? Yeah I know they brought their lbs to the los a lot to rush etc but yeesh it’s not Trey flowers ask.

And the last he gets redirected in the stem so bad he’s way off the mark coming out of the cut. And off balance as a result to boot.
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Sounds like you have a pretty good idea of the answer on that. ;)

I think if Tannehill stays down the barrel and sells the over route (literally our most frequently used intermediate-deep route, then you can free up both 1-on-1 opportunities.

New England did really well to pass off our weak attempts to displace their zone concepts. Part of this is Tannehill, but most of it is a failure to adjust in game from the offensive staff.
 
No coaching adjustments , Your chart makes me want to puke as it proves the point.

The definition of insanity is ... I'll let the reader finish that common expression.
 
I'm not much of a Tannehill fan but there is no doubt that performance was so aberrational there isn't much use in fretting about it. He would follow an errant throw with a poor choice.

Very strange that Gase fixated on New England being more physical when everything on defense suggested they were simply well prepared, and able to thwart most things we wanted to do.

Still, there should have been a handful of big passing plays regardless. In tennis terminology, we offered unforced errors.

I hated it when New England picked up Kyle Van Noy, who was wasting away while injured and misused in Detroit. Van Noy was one of my favorite players in that draft. I mentioned him many times in the Draft Forum. Later I was hoping the Dolphins would figure out what value Van Noy represented, but naturally it was the Patriots. And they got him for nothing...basically an exchange of late round picks.

Gesicki is going to look like an oddball weakling out there. He looked like a weakling so often at Penn State. I don't know how many times I've posted in recent years that we seem to draft guys who lack the ideal build for their position. We could have Dallas Goedert learning on the job but at least with the perfect physical frame no matter what we want to do from the tight end position. Goedert hasn't been great so far but he does have one game with 7 receptions including a touchdown.
 
This so expertly explains that it is a team game. The offense was terrible with no bright spots. The defense gave up early scores to put us in position to chase the score board all day. Go beat the Bengals.

Average yards to gain on third down was 11.......
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
I'm also offering therapy via my inbox for anyone that needs it after reading this one.

Really strange air yards per throw stat, his lowest accuracy rate since early 2016, a pitiful first down conversion rate, some missed reads and plenty of video cut-ups.

https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphins/charting-ryan-tannehill-2018-week-4-at-new-england/
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I might need therapy but not because of this one game. More like for 45 years of frustration as we haven't won a super bowl since the 73 season.
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
Sounds like you have a pretty good idea of the answer on that. ;)

I think if Tannehill stays down the barrel and sells the over route (literally our most frequently used intermediate-deep route, then you can free up both 1-on-1 opportunities.

New England did really well to pass off our weak attempts to displace their zone concepts. Part of this is Tannehill, but most of it is a failure to adjust in game from the offensive staff.
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So you think he eye banged it from virtually his first step in his drop. I’m not sure I see it that way to me he pivots/points his shoulders to it properly on the last drop step prior to the back foot hitting. why would that safety jump the over route if he never looked at it even? Just playing our situational tendencies maybe?

I don’t think that’s a play call where you can stay square the entire drop when your back foot hits it wants that ball out. I understand the concept of staying down the barrel just not sure it can apply here given the speed on the outside and the route concepts relative to the drop. This isn’t a multiple hitch ask. Back foot hits ball out in sync with route combos.
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
This so expertly explains that it is a team game. The offense was terrible with no bright spots. The defense gave up early scores to put us in position to chase the score board all day. Go beat the Bengals.

Average yards to gain on third down was 11.......
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He played his part in getting them there, but I truly believe it was just a perfect storm of bad **** happening on every single play. One guy gets beat badly, the quarterback misses a read, we get hit with a really untimely holding call, Gase calls some conservative bull ****. Everything that could go wrong did. Bury it, move on.
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
I'm also offering therapy via my inbox for anyone that needs it after reading this one.

Really strange air yards per throw stat, his lowest accuracy rate since early 2016, a pitiful first down conversion rate, some missed reads and plenty of video cut-ups.

https://www.lockedondolphins.com/dolphins/charting-ryan-tannehill-2018-week-4-at-new-england/
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You do an excellent job on these. I appreciate the time and effort.

I do have question about the chart and legend. A solid white circle is "off target" and I recall a play where Tannehill threw it behind the WR as he rolled out and into the arms of a Patriot who dropped an easy interception, but no indication that is considered to be off target. Even looked like Tannehill was indicating "my bad" after the play. And the interception in not considered to be "off target" either. I get if there was no defender there it would be on target, but even if Wilson got separation that ball is going to be intercepted regardless.

What is criteria for when a pass is "on target" and when a pass is "off target?"

Not trying to be critical (I think you do a great job on these), a serious question so I better understand your chart. And I deleted the game it was so putrid and I haven't seen any youtube videos of every pass posted yet so I can't specifically recall other plays I can use an example for clarity.
 
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