Ryan Tannehill's Deep Ball Hasn't Improved Since Texas A&M
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Yeah I think all but the most hardened Tannehill fans pretty much realize his deep ball, so far, sucks a fat one.
Phinatic8u
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Wow something nobody knew, how refreshing.
JDRA20
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Random nitpick but why did you use 21+ yards for the 2013 Dolphins and 20+ yards for TA&M? What difference would it make it it was 20+ for the Dolphins?
FearTheBeard
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Feel free to leave out 2012, know you love to leave out stats that help your case buuuut:
2012: 20/51, 43.1%, 671 yards, 3 TD's, 1 INT.
It's a weakness right now. Don't think we can undersell the importance of getting him good protection and another year to assimilate with Wallace.
2012: 20/51, 43.1%, 671 yards, 3 TD's, 1 INT.
It's a weakness right now. Don't think we can undersell the importance of getting him good protection and another year to assimilate with Wallace.
It's one his biggest problems. In many cases it seems to flutter and the recipient has to slow down and wait for it to come down. A lot of his other throwing is pretty good, but his overall QB status needs to be getting those 20+ yd completions to over 35% for starters.
The other point to reflect on this is that I don't hear any major concerns about Andrew Luck's deep ball or Nick Foles' deep ball, not to mention Ben Roethlisberger's, Peyton Mannng's, Philip Rivers' Tom Brady's or even Matt Stafford's. Maybe it's because Tannehill appears inferior in this parameter, but that is just my perception. I'd be curious to see the comparative data (please don't freak out futurescout - it's a percentage).
The other point to reflect on this is that I don't hear any major concerns about Andrew Luck's deep ball or Nick Foles' deep ball, not to mention Ben Roethlisberger's, Peyton Mannng's, Philip Rivers' Tom Brady's or even Matt Stafford's. Maybe it's because Tannehill appears inferior in this parameter, but that is just my perception. I'd be curious to see the comparative data (please don't freak out futurescout - it's a percentage).
FearTheBeard
FearTheBurke
# Name Team Att. Comp Drops Yards TDs INTs Att. % Acc. %
1 Russell Wilson SEA 60 27 2 922 9 5 14.7 48.3
2 Peyton Manning DEN 83 38 2 1299 12 5 12.6 48.2
3 Geno Smith NYJ 60 26 2 830 4 7 13.5 46.7
4 Mike Glennon TB 46 18 3 673 7 1 11.1 45.7
5 Jay Cutler CHI 57 24 2 829 5 5 16.1 45.6
5 Colin Kaepernick SF 57 21 5 683 6 2 13.7 45.6
7 Nick Foles PHI 55 25 0 803 14 1 17.4 45.5
8 Andy Dalton CIN 86 31 7 1028 14 5 14.7 44.2
9 Philip Rivers SD 57 21 4 696 7 4 10.5 43.9
10 Tony Romo DAL 56 21 3 695 8 1 10.5 42.9
11 Drew Brees NO 77 29 2 1128 15 2 11.8 40.3
12 Tom Brady NE 66 20 6 694 4 4 10.5 39.4
13 Matthew Stafford DET 77 23 6 728 8 7 12.1 37.7
14 Andrew Luck IND 60 17 5 614 5 2 10.5 36.7
15 Ben Roethlisberger PIT 76 24 3 730 7 7 13.0 35.5
16 Eli Manning NYG 70 21 3 725 6 7 12.7 34.3
17 Ryan Tannehill MIA 64 16 5 560 3 6 10.9 32.8
18 Cam Newton CAR 64 15 5 502 8 4 13.5 31.3
19 Carson Palmer ARZ 74 23 0 737 7 8 12.9 31.1
20 Robert Griffin III WAS 46 12 2 406 4 4 10.1 30.4
21 Joe Flacco BLT 88 17 6 730 1 8 14.3 26.1
Luck: 17/60, 36.7%, 614 yards, 5 TD's 2 INT's
Foles: 25/55, 45.5%, 803 yards, 14 TD's, 1 INT
Manning: 38/83, 48.2%, 1299 yards, 12 TD's, 5 INT
Rivers: 21/57, 43.9%, 696 yards, 7 TD's, 4 INT
Brady: 20/66, 39.4%, 694 yards, 4 TD's, 4 INT
Stafford: 23/77, 37.7%, 728 yards, 8 TD's, 7 INT
Tannehill: 16/64, 560 yards, 3 TD's, 6 INT's
He's in Luck's ballpark.
In 2012 on passes of 21+ yards in the air he was 15 for 42 (35.7%), 549 yards, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, and a 13.1 YPA.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/14876/year/2012/ryan-tannehill
First question that came to my mind also. Curious to know the answer.
FearTheBeard
FearTheBurke
via PFF as my source.
You never miss a chance to dump on Tannehill. I had you on my ignore list and took you off out of the goodness of my heart. We know you hate Tannehill. Jesus!!! When is it enough already? You're a bore, out the door and back on ignore can't take no more! Ta Ta, hater!
There is no doubt that Tannehill's long ball suffered this year. Going back and looking at some Texas A&M film it looks like he threw a lot of his long balls from rollouts. He was able to set his feet, step into it, and let it fly. I don't think there is an issue with his arm or his ability to judge distance and receiver speed. I think he may have a release and or set up problem in the pocket. Should get better with better coaching. If not maybe the haters are right.
