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Ryan Tannehill's Difficulties Throwing to the Middle of the Field

PALMA said:
In that first link and video it's pretty damning evidence against Tannehill and why we haven't scored over 30 points with him in over 20 games. Once in his career.

Wow it's disturbing and if I was Philbin and Sherman, really concerned their jobs are tied to him.
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Well.... Geno smith has gone for 30.... So that is a GREAT argument... Why don't you suggest a 1 for 1 trade?
 
FinfanInBuffalo said:
The point is that this is much ado about nothing. Tannehill is a developing QB. He (and all QBs) are likely to have flaws. There are also team/situation differences to account for. I can think of several. Finally, his completion % is not bad. His QB rating is because of 4 INTs. He is throwing to a bunch of guys that are new or played very little last season (Wallace, Gibson, Clay, Egnew, Matthews). Only Hartline is an experienced receiver that is back from last season. Even the RBs are essentially new. Add to that the issues with the OL and we should all be glad that the development is occurring without much bigger growing pains.
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Over the middle (0-19 yds)

Hartline- 19 of 27 for 246 but 3 drops.

Gibson- 13 of 20 fro 151 but, 2 drops and 2 picks.

Matthews- 14 of 19 for 158, 0 drops, 0 picks.

Wallace- 12 of 24 for 138 but 4 drops and a pick.

Clay- 21 0f 30 for 163 but, 2 drops and a pick.
 
southbeach 2 said:
throws behind the line- left- 3-5 for 22 yds, 0 td's, 0 picks. Pff grade -0.7, nfl- 70.4.
Middle- 19-19 for 165, 1 td, 0 picks. Pff 0.9, nfl- 120.4.
Right- 12-12 for 45, 1 td, 0 picks. Pff- -0.5, nfl 110.1

0-9 yards- left- 28-38 for 207, 0 td's, 1 pick. Pff -1.2, nfl 75.2.
Middle- 65-91 for 528, 3 td's, 1 pick. Pff -1.1, nfl 92.2.
Right- 33-37 for 297, 2 td'd, 0 picks. Pff +2.8, nfl 118.1.

10-19 yards- left- 16-34 for 236 , 2 td's, 1 pick. Pff 3.0, nfl 77.6.
Middle- 26-43 for 497, 1 td, 3 picks. Pff 10.5, nfl 78.3.
Right- 13-32 for 163, 2 td'd, 0 picks. Pff 7.0, nfl-78.

Over 20 yards- left- 5-11 for 140, 2 td's, 1 pick. Pff 1.5, nfl 93.8.
Middle- 1-5 for 49, 0 td's, 2 picks. Pff- 0.3, nfl 28.3.
Right- 3-18 for 125, 0 td's, 2 picks.

I don't see the difficulty throwing to the middle based on the bottom line.
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How do you explain the statistics on this page?

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/14876/ryan-Tannehill
 
Southbeach 2 said:
ESPN is splitting the field 5 ways as opposed to 3. If you add the left, right and middle from them you have the middle everyone else uses, and the only one I've known.
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Here's Sports Illustrated, with a slightly different definition of "middle," but again based on five sections of the field, with a similar sharp decrease in "middle" passing on Tannehill's part:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/25718/passing_splits.html

Even if you collapse the "right" and "left" into the "middle" as PFF does, and end up with only three sections of the field, you still wind up with a 78.4 QB rating for Tannehill in that version of "middle," which isn't good, and his TD to INT ratio in that area is 1 to 2 (3 TDs to 6 INTs).
 
shouright said:
Here's Sports Illustrated, with a slightly different definition of "middle," but again based on five sections of the field, with a similar sharp decrease in "middle" passing on Tannehill's part:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/25718/passing_splits.html

Even if you collapse the "right" and "left" into the "middle" as PFF does, and end up with only three sections of the field, you still wind up with a 78.4 QB rating for Tannehill in that version of "middle," which isn't good, and his TD to INT ratio in that area is 1 to 2 (3 TDs to 6 INTs).
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The INT's definitely hurt the QB rating over the middle, yet the YPA is highest in that area. Which stat is most closely associated with winning?
 
rent this space said:
The INT's definitely hurt the QB rating over the middle, yet the YPA is highest in that area. Which stat is most closely associated with winning?
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That's a good question... Lets see how he gets out of this one... Should be fun!
 
shouright said:
Here's Sports Illustrated, with a slightly different definition of "middle," but again based on five sections of the field, with a similar sharp decrease in "middle" passing on Tannehill's part:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/25718/passing_splits.html

Even if you collapse the "right" and "left" into the "middle" as PFF does, and end up with only three sections of the field, you still wind up with a 78.4 QB rating for Tannehill in that version of "middle," which isn't good, and his TD to INT ratio in that area is 1 to 2 (3 TDs to 6 INTs).
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Where did you get 78.4? It does not make sense to me, and PFF has 5 TD's with 6 picks.
 
Just out of curiosity. Shouldn't NFL stats from NFL.com be the only stats that matter? I mean let's face it. When it comes down to it that Is who Tannehill ultimately plays for. He doesn't play for ESPN, SI, TheScore, or PFF. Any other stats, well all stats, are just for dick measuring contests.
 
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