Saban is the cornerstone of the franchise, like it or not | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

Saban is the cornerstone of the franchise, like it or not

D

Dolfan4life

Starter
Joined
Nov 19, 2001
Messages
898
Reaction score
400
He is the best thing we have going for us right now.

If you don't like Nick and you don't believe he can get the job done then you are crazy.

And if he want to throw his players under the bus fine with me. In fact Ill drive the bus if he lets me pick some the players to run over.

Only one person ever turned water into wine and his name was not Saban.

As much as it sucks it is just going to take some time. How much time, hell who knows. Maybe one year, maybe two years, maybe five years, but he will win with the Dolphins.

If Wanny got five years then Saban deserves 10 years.

Now I agree that he should start playin the young guys, but I am sure he has a good reason for doing what he is doing.

Remember Saban is the cornerstone of this franchise. All things will be built around what he thinks is best.

Patience sucks, but you better have some
 
Dolfan4life said:
He is the best thing we have going for us right now.

If you don't like Nick and you don't believe he can get the job done then you are crazy.

And if he want to throw his players under the bus fine with me. In fact Ill drive the bus if he lets me pick some the players to run over.

Only one person ever turned water into wine and his name was not Saban.

As much as it sucks it is just going to take some time. How much time, hell who knows. Maybe one year, maybe two years, maybe five years, but he will win with the Dolphins.

If Wanny got five years then Saban deserves 10 years.

Now I agree that he should start playin the young guys, but I am sure he has a good reason for doing what he is doing.

Remember Saban is the cornerstone of this franchise. All things will be built around what he thinks is best.

Patience sucks, but you better have some
Click to expand...

thanks for being the voice of reason, but it is more complicated than that. coaching takes time? What about the jets. They seem coached pretty well. 4-3 and playing on the road well against decent teams, winning. They had one bad week. He is starting three rookies from the draft this year.
saban's players are playing undisciplined football week after week. penalties and turnovers. He has brought in most of the starting players. his guys. He may have a great track record, but ut took Bill Beilichick his second coaching stint to get on track. He will get time from Wayne, five years, but he better start coaching for better disciplined play. I want him to succeed and hope he does, but for two years we have had a horrible start.
 
Great post! Saban just needs time and some patience from us. We will be on the winning side again soon.
 
Sometimes you have to take a step backward before going forward.

I play golf and it is common that when you make a swing change you must be willing to suffer through the adversity that inevitably comes with the changes. The reason you decide to suffer through the bad times is because you know that in the long run it is the smart decision.

Example: Tiger Woods

Tiger made swing changes and in the short run he wasn't as good, but now that the changes have take hold he is dominant.

Nick knows that we were good last year but he still needed to make some changes. Now I don't think he believed he was going to start 1-6, but it was what he needed to do to move forward.

As a golfer it is funny when I see people repeating the same mistakes, because they have no system set in place to get better. And most of them jump ship way to soon when the first sign of adversity comes. People are like "wait a sec, I was better than this before I made the changes, these are obviously not working." They then regress to their old selves because getting better was going to be harder than they originally thought.

Nick knows this. Building a winner is not easy. If it was easy then the freakin Lions and Cardinals would have won several Super Bowls.

Yes the Jets may be doing O.K right now but there are lots of one year wonders in this league (they do have two stud OL though).

Nick will work 25 hours a day if it takes that. That is the person you want on your sideline. He is driven.

I too think losing sucks. It keeps me up late at night, but I also know that you have got to be willing to get worse before you get better.
 
I say 20 years if that's what Nick needs to get this thing turned around. Aw shucks, why not for life? Then Nick could be the tombstone and cornerstone!!! Fins rule!!!
 
Dolfan4life said:
Sometimes you have to take a step backward before going forward.
Click to expand...

Cutting off the rest of your post to save screen space.

Thanks for that post: I just wish more people would read it.
 
GRT8 said:
thanks for being the voice of reason, but it is more complicated than that. coaching takes time? What about the jets. They seem coached pretty well. 4-3 and playing on the road well against decent teams, winning. They had one bad week. He is starting three rookies from the draft this year.
saban's players are playing undisciplined football week after week. penalties and turnovers. He has brought in most of the starting players. his guys. He may have a great track record, but ut took Bill Beilichick his second coaching stint to get on track. He will get time from Wayne, five years, but he better start coaching for better disciplined play. I want him to succeed and hope he does, but for two years we have had a horrible start.
Click to expand...

That right there sounds a lot like us last year. We started off with a great win against Denver and then suprised Carolina. At that point people were starting to realize Saban had what it takes. Then we go through a little slump, but we pull out of it and people are talking about Saban as a coach of the year candidate. Not to mention, we had 3 rookies starting as well.

I can't explain what's happening right now, but I do know that things take time. And you can't judge anyone from one season as a coach, whether it's Saban or Mangini. So Saban is having a sophmore slump with an underperforming team. If it was his 5th year and this was happening then we have a problem, but not yet. It's just tooo early to tell
 
Blind faith must be wonderful. All those people calling him a great coach, what makes him great, whats different from saban and every other good college coach who couldnt cut it in this league. This team has regressed, our best players were guys that were here before, his draft picks are lackluster at best. Lets stop pretending his master plan was to go 9-7 then regress again. Be truthful.
 
I think it's crazy that we sit here and allow for Saban to continue snow us under.... I for one do not think the guy will get it done. He has lost his players and the comment he made yesterday may well spell the end of his coaching stink in Miami sooner rather than later. "We put players in position to make plays and they didn't make plays". Regardless of the truth in that statement, you never has HEAD COACH OF ANY TEAM make a comment like that. He has to take his blame. He has been outcoached on this level possibly 85% of the time. He got some lucky wins against mediocre teams last year and this year the other coaches are putting their players in position to be successful against our team. I cannot think of one game in his 1 1/2 seasons where coaching has won us a single game. This post gets a terrible 1 star only because I couldn't give it less.
 
Don't call my faith blind. I've seen what he's done with other programs, so it's not blind. It takes time build a great program, but you wont give it to him because you're too embarrassed to lose in the transition period. You want to win now? Tough t**ies. Make the best of it or got root for the Patsies. But please don't come back when he rights the ship.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom