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saban said today that he's not looking to create a QB controversy and if gus is healthy he will start. i'm not sure i understand how there could be any kind of QB controversy by starting sage. we're eliminated from playoff contention and there are only 2 games left.

so....i wonder now if after evaluating the FA QB market this season and slipping in the draft, if saban an co. don't feel like gus is still our best option next year. thats why they want to head into the offseason with gus as the clear-cut #1. perhaps they are thinking he knows the offense, and with a few key FA aquistions in other areas they might be able to squeeze 10-6 or better out of this team and make a playoff run next year before the following year when we say goodbye to all the aging veterans and saban's first 2 draft classes take over.
 
It depends what is available in the draft. Most likely we will get a young project QB who will need a veteran around to show him the way. It would be nice for the older defensive guys to get another shot in the playoffs. I'm hoping we don't forget about our defensive needs during the draft; it sucked all those years we had no defense. Hopefully we don't give away the farm for a QB. Maybe we can get a reasonable deal on Rivers.
 
Here's the thing. Gus is the starter. He's the guy that has earned the starting spot on this team. If he is healthy, he will play.

I also believe that the Dolphins have absolutely no problem with going into next season with Gus as the starter. Ideally, he will be their number two quarterback in the future, and I believe the Dolphins know that they need more consistency from the quarterback position than Gus gives. You can't just go around benching a quarterback and playing another just to see what you have.

If Gus can't go, Sage will start. Chances are, Sage will be elsewhere next season, as he has probably turned some heads of other GMs with his play. I'm betting he will be a #2 quarterback elsewhere though.

If Miami can improve their starting quarterback situation this offseason, they will. I don't believe they will sign a veteran quarterback just for the hell of it though. They have enough confidence in Gus that they feel they can bring in a young guy and groom him in this system, and when that young guy matures and is ready, Gus is the ideal number two quarterback.
 
KB21 said:
Here's the thing. Gus is the starter. He's the guy that has earned the starting spot on this team. If he is healthy, he will play.

I also believe that the Dolphins have absolutely no problem with going into next season with Gus as the starter. Ideally, he will be their number two quarterback in the future, and I believe the Dolphins know that they need more consistency from the quarterback position than Gus gives. You can't just go around benching a quarterback and playing another just to see what you have.

If Gus can't go, Sage will start. Chances are, Sage will be elsewhere next season, as he has probably turned some heads of other GMs with his play. I'm betting he will be a #2 quarterback elsewhere though.

If Miami can improve their starting quarterback situation this offseason, they will. I don't believe they will sign a veteran quarterback just for the hell of it though. They have enough confidence in Gus that they feel they c

an bring in a young guy and groom him in this system, and when that young guy matures and is ready, Gus is the ideal number two quarterback.
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That is my only gripe with Saban that he sticks with a Qb that has not really played well. I dont see anything else to gain with not giving Rosenfels some more playing time. I don't really think he is that impressed with Frerotte's play, he just has no confidence in letting Sage play. The problem is we should have a problem coming off at least a .500 record playing a Qb like Gus. Our team is not as bad as man. Imagine if we actually had a Qb worth of starting and not the 28th ranked passer in the league. We should look at upgrading any position that is weak and QB is weak. Playing Gus Frerotte at qb is the equivilant of playing Antwan Smith at runningback. Its only the most important position on the team and we have had improved line play.
 
I want us to get a young quarterback , wheather it's the draft or FA or even a trade. I'd be more then happy to ship our first for Phillip Rivers. I watched him a lot in college and saw all the hype behind him and yet he's unproven in the NFL none of the qbs coming out are either.

And if we can get Culpepper I'd take him aswell.
 
KB21 said:
Here's the thing. Gus is the starter. He's the guy that has earned the starting spot on this team. If he is healthy, he will play.

I also believe that the Dolphins have absolutely no problem with going into next season with Gus as the starter. Ideally, he will be their number two quarterback in the future, and I believe the Dolphins know that they need more consistency from the quarterback position than Gus gives. You can't just go around benching a quarterback and playing another just to see what you have.

If Gus can't go, Sage will start. Chances are, Sage will be elsewhere next season, as he has probably turned some heads of other GMs with his play. I'm betting he will be a #2 quarterback elsewhere though.

If Miami can improve their starting quarterback situation this offseason, they will. I don't believe they will sign a veteran quarterback just for the hell of it though. They have enough confidence in Gus that they feel they can bring in a young guy and groom him in this system, and when that young guy matures and is ready, Gus is the ideal number two quarterback.
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i disagree to a point. the only reason why he is keeping gus is b/c there are 2 games left in the season and doenst want to change it or anything of tha tnature and wants the team to compete at the level they are at for more evaluating and just to stick by what he has done for 15 weeks now. It only makes sense. Why change anything after this long? i do see miami upgrading the QB sitaution VIA draft and maybe but i doubt through FA unless its a young rivers/brees/carr type of guy. If they are willing to change 3 ppl on the off line after a year of improvement you ebtter believe the new QB is coming through the draft.
 
dlockz said:
That is my only gripe with Saban that he sticks with a Qb that has not really played well. I dont see anything else to gain with not giving Rosenfels some more playing time. I don't really think he is that impressed with Frerotte's play, he just has no confidence in letting Sage play. The problem is we should have a problem coming off at least a .500 record playing a Qb like Gus. Our team is not as bad as man. Imagine if we actually had a Qb worth of starting and not the 28th ranked passer in the league. We should look at upgrading any position that is weak and QB is weak. Playing Gus Frerotte at qb is the equivilant of playing Antwan Smith at runningback. Its only the most important position on the team and we have had improved line play.
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Well I think at this point he stuck with Gus to complete the season. I don't think Gus is a better talent than Sage but he is a better leader on the field I guess. I honestly don't think at this point that we shouldn't all be pretty much certain that Sage is a good backup and that's it. Now if we can find that elusive starter grade QB we've been looking for.....
 
KB21 said:
Here's the thing. Gus is the starter. He's the guy that has earned the starting spot on this team. If he is healthy, he will play.

I also believe that the Dolphins have absolutely no problem with going into next season with Gus as the starter. Ideally, he will be their number two quarterback in the future, and I believe the Dolphins know that they need more consistency from the quarterback position than Gus gives. You can't just go around benching a quarterback and playing another just to see what you have.

If Gus can't go, Sage will start. Chances are, Sage will be elsewhere next season, as he has probably turned some heads of other GMs with his play. I'm betting he will be a #2 quarterback elsewhere though.

If Miami can improve their starting quarterback situation this offseason, they will. I don't believe they will sign a veteran quarterback just for the hell of it though. They have enough confidence in Gus that they feel they can bring in a young guy and groom him in this system, and when that young guy matures and is ready, Gus is the ideal number two quarterback.
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Totaly agree here and I've said this before.Gus will start next year and we'll draft a QB....IF Gus goes down then maybe the rookie could play.Also, I think that Lemon will be gone too and here's why.If we have Gus starting and draft a rookie then we'll need a veteran as the back up cos I doubt that Nick wants a rookie plus Lemon(who's almost like a rookie cos he hasn't played much)as his #2 and 3.

Ozzy rules!!

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Megatron said:
Well I think at this point he stuck with Gus to complete the season. I don't think Gus is a better talent than Sage but he is a better leader on the field I guess. I honestly don't think at this point that we shouldn't all be pretty much certain that Sage is a good backup and that's it. Now if we can find that elusive starter grade QB we've been looking for.....
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excactly, we know that sage isn't going ot be the man so why let him play when thigns aren't going to be that way and just fnish teh season how the same we came in and stuck with the plan for 15 weeks by now.
 
Danny said:
Totaly agree here and I've said this before.Gus will start next year and we'll draft a QB....IF Gus goes down then maybe the rookie could play.Also, I think that Lemon will be gone too and here's why.If we have Gus starting and draft a rookie then we'll need a veteran as the back up cos I doubt that Nick wants a rookie plus Lemon(who's almost like a rookie cos he hasn't played much)as his #2 and 3.

Ozzy rules!!

Go Italy 2006 world cup
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Agreed. Gus is in there for the next 1-2 years while they wait for a QB in the draft they like. Whether it be Cutler, Quinn etc etc. Might even come next year. Well see..
 
Well I for one am not giving up on SAGE. I think this kid has potential! I can't think of too many QBs that came into this game and were immediate in their 1st or 2nd starts, let alone 5... ROTHESBERGER and BRADY are only the recent ones that I know of that were immediate impacts... But there is also argument that they are products of the system... The STEELERS have always had a SOUND OL!!! The PATSIES, well their OL over the years sit up there with the STEELERS...

Point is, unless you play in REAL games at REAL speed, you're nothing but a rookie... That's whether you warmed the bench for 6 months or 6 years! Unless you get playing time in a series of real games, the game will always be fast!

Te reason SAGE is so good of the bench is that they run a hurry-up offense when they are out there! He has to make the big plays, AND IS quite capable of doing it, in a short period of time! ERGO, everyone saying that he is a great #2 backup!

The problem lies with a full game scenario... Throw a rookie to the wolves and you have a carcus... Keep throwing that rookie at the wolves, he finds the way to survive... Once the survival happens, he then finds the way to prevent the bites of the wolves all together...

We are not going to know, whether it is SAGE, CUTLER, QUINN or LINEHART, until they have to fight a few in a row to grow from being the carcus to a battle-tested warrior... A game here and there will NEVER define a LEADER!!!
 
Saban also said that he was going to play whomever he thought gave the team the best opportunity to win (I know that sounds eerily familiar to what we heard last year). For the QB position, he thinks that person is Gus.

I also think that they pretty much know what they have in Sage. They see him a lot in practice as well. Plus, since Sage will be an unrestricted free agent next year, there may not be any point in "seeing what we have in Sage" as we may already know and he won't be here after this year anyway.
 
chuckcole said:
Saban also said that he was going to play whomever he thought gave the team the best opportunity to win (I know that sounds eerily familiar to what we heard last year). For the QB position, he thinks that person is Gus.

I also think that they pretty much know what they have in Sage. They see him a lot in practice as well. Plus, since Sage will be an unrestricted free agent next year, there may not be any point in "seeing what we have in Sage" as we may already know and he won't be here after this year anyway.
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Yes Saban knows these two QB's pretty well and Sage was never able to beat out Gus. That being said why would he be resigned next year? Saban will keep Gus as his Verteran becasue he knows the system and has know develop some chemisrty and move a different direction then Sage for the future. So if Gus is healthy why play Sage, actually I'd like to see Cleo get some snaps.
 
ATS16 said:
Yes Saban knows these two QB's pretty well and Sage was never able to beat out Gus. That being said why would he be resigned next year? Saban will keep Gus as his Verteran becasue he knows the system and has know develop some chemisrty and move a different direction then Sage for the future. So if Gus is healthy why play Sage, actually I'd like to see Cleo get some snaps.
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Yeah ... if you want to go with the "see what we have" mentality, then I think you play Cleo, not Sage. I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few snaps. But, unless there's a blowout or something, I don't think we'll see it.
 
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