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Nothing interesting, proud of the way we competed, how we kept bouncing back during the game...outlined a lot of situations where we had to bounce back. Brought up the special teams battle as a big factor.

Key moving forward is remembering how we played in this game and building on it.

As a staff, was hard to pick offensive game ball...because everyone blocked well, even the receivers. Mentioned great tight end blocking too. Ronnie did fantastic but it was such a team effort.

We had 8 players with double-digit production points...which is a lot.

Jason Taylor, Kevin Carter, Zach Thomas, and Channing Crowder all had 20+ production points, which is more than we've ever had before. All four got game balls.

On STs, Sammy Morris got it.

As for the chip on the shoulder thing, he said that it boiled down to that you always want to be a factor. Even when you're 7 years old picking for dodge ball or whatever you always want to be picked high and be a factor. A lot of players kind of felt like going into this game everyone was saying we're not even a factor in the Bears' thinking.

When asked about Joey, said he did a good job "managing the game" and brought up that one of their goals heading into the game was not to make negative plays happen that put the Bears D in the pressure position that they love being in when they tend to break games wide open.

He never discussed the criticism of the 72 Dolphins with the players. He was graduating college back in 72. He said the more you can make things personal in terms of feeling responsibility to play well, the better.

Praised L.J. Shelton for his personal sacrifice going over to RG.

Said Yeremiah Bell played very well, but the pressure caused a lot of things...brought up how everything worked in concert, the pressure, the run stopping, the coverage, the gap control, etc.

When asked what the film showed about Will Allen's big give and whether or not it was a push-off...Saban just stared...and said "You gonna pay the fine?"

"You're not supposed to extend your hand to push off a guy, and...I didn't see anything different on the film than what I saw on the field, but...does that get me in trouble, Harvey?"

Said that they thought, in the box, that the Wes Welker catch was not a catch. He said it was basically a timeout that was spent to trust in the player (Welker) and the other players. They thought in the booth on the replay it wasn't a catch. The only thing he'll say though is that both officials on their sideline called it a catch and the one out behind the bench is the one that said he saw it hit the ground.

This is basically what I thought as I saw it happening. It ain't easy to forget Chris Chambers and Randy McMichael pleading with Saban to challenge that one sideline catch a few games ago, and their reactions when Saban put away the flag.

So there's Wes telling him its a catch and I think McMichael right next to him too pleading...so this time he trusted in the players and threw the flag to trust in them, and yeah it didn't work out but he still thinks it was a good decision. Savvy move. He said he'd do it again in the future, depending on the situation.
 
Awesome recap bro. Looks like he is feeling good after then win. I love the fine comment.
 
ckparrothead said:
Said that they thought, in the box, that the Wes Welker catch was not a catch. He said it was basically a timeout that was spent to trust in the player (Welker) and the other players. They thought in the booth on the replay it wasn't a catch. The only thing he'll say though is that both officials on their sideline called it a catch and the one out behind the bench is the one that said he saw it hit the ground.

This is basically what I thought as I saw it happening. It ain't easy to forget Chris Chambers and Randy McMichael pleading with Saban to challenge that one sideline catch a few games ago, and their reactions when Saban put away the flag.

So there's Wes telling him its a catch and I think McMichael right next to him too pleading...so this time he trusted in the players and threw the flag to trust in them, and yeah it didn't work out but he still thinks it was a good decision. Savvy move. He said he'd do it again in the future, depending on the situation.

This is waht I said a few weeks ago after the Chris Chambers challenge incident and listening to Saban talk it almost felt as if he had read my post LOL! I'll see if I can find the post.

Also you left out a bunch of complimentary stuff he said about Joey shuffling around in the pocket buying time and making big plays for TD's I was waiting for the transcript to post because I am too lazy to type all this out :lol:
 
Here was the post, I was so happy to hear Saban show loyalty to his players during the game! Best presser ever by Saban! I feel like this is a turning point for the team.


bluehaze said:
I still say you challenge the questionable ones just to keep the momentum going. If Chris Chambers really thiunks he's in on that play and Saban challenges and loses Chris gets a boost thinking the refs ripped him off. Anything to give these players energy is a good thing whereas challenging the obvious like Ronni Browns fumble is just a waste of a challenge. Saban is pretty poor at the whole challenge thing IMO.

When you don't challenge the questionable ones you arent supporting your players, and it has a reverse effect players go out there pissed off at the coach instead of the refs!
 
Hey CK what did you think of Joey's performance yesterday.
 
what i found interesting is that he never discussed the remarks from the x dolphins with them,he was cool when it came to that subject you could tell he did'nt want to aknowledge it but knew that his players had pride,almost like a proud father not rubbing it in after their kid beats up the bully.

that was a player thing, he knew it,and let the players deal with it,,very good move
 
I hate refs in all sports. I play flagfootball and they stink in that too. How they can screw up replays is beyond me. Anyone that saw the Patriots and Minny game last monday understands. BB arguing the call on the field, them changing it and then the other team challenges it and it NOT getting overturned.

This is the worst officiating I can remember. Now you have coaches knowing it's one way but then challenging it for the possibility the refs DON'T get it right. There needs to be a seperate team that sits up in some box and reviews every play.

No offense to old people but last night during the Indy/Pats game there was a review on a spot which was pretty clear to everyone else that Brady didn't make the first down on the sneak. THen the replays show he didn't make it but the old guy has this confused look on his face and doesn't reverse the call. We have these refs that are knowledgeable of the rules but lack the ability to see or comprehend the action on the field.
 
fin13 said:
Hey CK what did you think of Joey's performance yesterday.

I thought he was worse in this game than he was against the Patriots, Jets, or Packers.

That's the plain truth. I thought he had a pretty decent day against the Patriots, really a pretty bad day against the Jets, a decent day against the Packers, and a horrible day against the Bears.

I've always said from the start I judge QBs based more on scoring drives than touchdown passes. In this case the offense only had to travel a sum total of 42 yards to get three touchdowns, because of Bears turnovers.

Could those three scoring drives have turned into 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? Absolutely. They also can and did turn into turnovers.

I was very grateful for two of Joey's three touchdown passes. They were probably the best two plays he made the whole day and he did it when it counted right when we had the opportunity to get 7 points.

So it isn't all bad.

But on the other hand, Ronnie Brown had the most rushing success he's had since becoming a pro, and yet the Dolphins totaled 3 points from drives in which the Bears didn't give it to us in their own red zone or close to it. Hardly any of Ronnie's yardage came on the three touchdown drives because there were only a sum total of 42 yards to go on those three drives. Most of Ronnie's yardage came on other drives in which the Dolphins actually had to drive down the field some. Yet we still couldn't score points on those drives.

This was really the most inaccurate day he's had in Miami. His underthrows and overthrows were much, much more pronounced than any other game so far for him. Many poor throws actually did end up being caught, somehow, by receivers making pretty ridiculous catches.

Those who point out that we won despite Harrington instead of because of him are probably correct in their thinking. Today he was vintage Jay Fiedler...Jay Fiedler on a bad day.

Does anyone remember Jay Fiedler against the Colts in the 2000 wildcard playoff game? I liken Harrington't performance in this game to that game. We won that game because the team rose up and beat the Colts, brought us back from a sizable halftime lead and we ran the ball with Lamar Smith like 40 times.

Harrington has performed better than this in Miami, and I will expect him to perform better than that going forward once again, or I expect him to end up on the bench...plain and simple. Everyone is responsible for their own play. He is no exception. He has played a lot better for us than he did yesterday, and it is that Harrington that I want to see suit up for the Chiefs game, not the guy I saw yesterday.

The guy I saw yesterday made me wish for Gus Frerotte...and that's not a good thing.
 
ckparrothead said:
I thought he was worse in this game than he was against the Patriots, Jets, or Packers.

That's the plain truth. I thought he had a pretty decent day against the Patriots, really a pretty bad day against the Jets, a decent day against the Packers, and a horrible day against the Bears.

I've always said from the start I judge QBs based more on scoring drives than touchdown passes. In this case the offense only had to travel a sum total of 42 yards to get three touchdowns, because of Bears turnovers.

Could those three scoring drives have turned into 3 field goals instead of touchdowns? Absolutely. They also can and did turn into turnovers.

I was very grateful for two of Joey's three touchdown passes. They were probably the best two plays he made the whole day and he did it when it counted right when we had the opportunity to get 7 points.

So it isn't all bad.

But on the other hand, Ronnie Brown had the most rushing success he's had since becoming a pro, and yet the Dolphins totaled 3 points from drives in which the Bears didn't give it to us in their own red zone or close to it. Hardly any of Ronnie's yardage came on the three touchdown drives because there were only a sum total of 42 yards to go on those three drives. Most of Ronnie's yardage came on other drives in which the Dolphins actually had to drive down the field some. Yet we still couldn't score points on those drives.

This was really the most inaccurate day he's had in Miami. His underthrows and overthrows were much, much more pronounced than any other game so far for him. Many poor throws actually did end up being caught, somehow, by receivers making pretty ridiculous catches.

Those who point out that we won despite Harrington instead of because of him are probably correct in their thinking. Today he was vintage Jay Fiedler...Jay Fiedler on a bad day.

Does anyone remember Jay Fiedler against the Colts in the 2000 wildcard playoff game? I liken Harrington't performance in this game to that game. We won that game because the team rose up and beat the Colts, brought us back from a sizable halftime lead and we ran the ball with Lamar Smith like 40 times.

Harrington has performed better than this in Miami, and I will expect him to perform better than that going forward once again, or I expect him to end up on the bench...plain and simple. Everyone is responsible for their own play. He is no exception. He has played a lot better for us than he did yesterday, and it is that Harrington that I want to see suit up for the Chiefs game, not the guy I saw yesterday.

The guy I saw yesterday made me wish for Gus Frerotte...and that's not a good thing.

great, i agree
 
I just have to think HOW BAD Harrington had to play for Miami to lose that game. Just think Miami's defense forced 6 turnovers, three of them in Bears territory and one for a touchdown. Ronnie Brown was able to run for 150 yards and the running game improved while they were ahead.
 
Dol-Fan Dupree said:
I just have to think HOW BAD Harrington had to play for Miami to lose that game. Just think Miami's defense forced 6 turnovers, three of them in Bears territory and one for a touchdown. Ronnie Brown was able to run for 150 yards and the running game improved while they were ahead.

Well, let's say for instance we turn those three touchdowns into field goals....by my count that's still a score of 19-13.
 
ckparrothead said:
Well, let's say for instance we turn those three touchdowns into field goals....by my count that's still a score of 19-13.

That's ludicrous man :lol: Olindo had already missed one fieldgoal whos to say he wouldn't have missed more? Do you honestly think the Bears wouldn't have fought tooth and nail for that win if we didn't put all those points on the board? The fact is we took the wind out of thier sails by putting the game out of reach and that is why we won. We all saw what happened when the Cardinals kicked a bunch of FG's against the Bears...that's right they lost.
 
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