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in reading the transctript from Saban's press conference I noticed something or perhaps I simply inferred he was saying something else.

Anyway, here's the question and comment as posted on the website. Please read it very carefully....I'll make my comments below the article........

(On visiting Jeno James at the hospital) – “Did he tell the part where how good looking she was and how bad looking I was. Well, I always have a legitimate concern for the players and sometimes it is a very detached feeling that you get when a guy has a problem and you’d like to do something to help the guy, but yet, really it is in doctors’, trainers’ and medical staff’s hands. You really get kind of a helpless feeling and I am sure we have all had it when we have been around somebody that was sick or had a problem and you’d like to do something to help them, but you can’t. You get a little detached, but you try to be as supportive as you can. I have tried to make it a practice to go see players whenever I can when they have problems and have to go to the hospital. Sometimes you can’t make it to see guys when they have short surgeries. I would feel a lot better to know before I went to sleep that night, which I really didn’t sleep much that night anyway, was that Jeno was okay and it was good to see him that way and talk to him. I think it made him feel better and it made me feel better too.”


Now, this is where I started "inferring" a little different meaning than his lead-in "joke" would normally take you.....
Well, I always have a legitimate concern for the players and sometimes it is a very detached feeling that you get when a guy has a problem and you’d like to do something to help the guy, but yet, really it is in doctors’, trainers’ and medical staff’s hands.

Saban then immediately follows with this....You really get kind of a helpless feeling and I am sure we have all had it when we have been around somebody that was sick or had a problem and you’d like to do something to help them, but you can’t.

As is in true Saban form, he attempts to make his intereviews as complicated as possible by adding in as many "comma'd" (new word :)) senentces as he can. I know. If you've ever read most of my posts...I put commas and "....." everywhere.

Anyway, focussing on what just those senentces I began feeling that perhaps something a little deeper was wrong with Jeno. Saban talks of "feelings of helplessness", "really in doctors' hands", and again in the article he mentnioned being detached from the players. Know, I know that Jeno passed out or almost passed out at camp and had to be hospitalized where they said he had a, crap, what was it....something with his stomach that helped attirbute to the hospitalization.

While this is all total SPECULATION, could Jeno have been starving himself to get to a certain weight or even doing something else?

Comments and Thoughts? Go ahead and telll me that I'm reading too much into the comments. I'm serious. I don't want some larger problem looming in the back of my mind on one of, if not the best lineman we have.
 
You really read ALOT into that statement..

Basically, he said he felt helpless at the time because they didnt have that much info on what happened to Jeno at the time.. He was passed out and dehydrated.. He is fine now..
 
You dissected the statement well, but overall I think Saban was just expressing his feeling about the moment and not some deeper issue. The good thing is that James is back with the team and should be ok. You can bet they will monitor him closer than ever after that incident.
 
larfo2224 said:
You dissected the statement well, but overall I think Saban was just expressing his feeling about the moment and not some deeper issue. The good thing is that James is back with the team and should be ok. You can bet they will monitor him closer than ever after that incident.

:migs: It could be more but...:yeahthat:.

Here, maybe some commas will help you relax. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
dolphan north said:
:migs: It could be more but...:yeahthat:.

Here, maybe some commas will help you relax. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


thank you, I needed that. :lol:

atcually, I'm glad for all the comments. I seriously thought that maybe something else was wrong with Jeno. I'm calmer. :sleep: OK I know that's a "sleepy" thing but it's the closest I saw to a "calm guy"
 
That heat and humidity can be very hard on the big guys...even if they have been training hard. Football practices push those big guys more than when they train on their own. I doubt starving....he's been in this heat before and knows he needs to eat and hydrate very frequently. If he was released from the hospital, he should recover well. Gastrointestinal pathology was surely ruled out by the medical staff.
 
Finfan53 said:
That heat and humidity can be very hard on the big guys...even if they have been training hard. Football practices push those big guys more than when they train on their own. I doubt starving....he's been in this heat before and knows he needs to eat and hydrate very frequently. If he was released from the hospital, he should recover well. Gastrointestinal pathology was surely ruled out by the medical staff.


maybe they didn't rule that out? And that was why Saban was there.

honestly tho, I never took Saban as a guy who show up to check on a player just because he "probably wouldn't be able to sleep" anyway.
I also never thought Saban was totally heartless or as he's been called, Coach Satan :) that is kinda funny, But if that truly is just he type of coach Saban is then I'm very pleased...wrong word, happy!

anywho....I'll let it go now. :D
 
I did not get the impression that Saban was saying anything in particular about James but something about being a coach who cares - especially in such a physically and mentally brutal game. What i think he was alluding to was the nearly endless amount of physical ailments players suffer while playing the game and what it means for him to be involved with those players. He cares, but he must watch himself from caring too much or he can miss the forest for the trees. That is, he cannot get too involved with any given player's injuries ie detached, yet as a person so deeply dedicated to himself, his process and his team he does care ie the hospital visits. That was my understanding of Saban's statement.
 
zephon said:
in reading the transctript from Saban's press conference I noticed something or perhaps I simply inferred he was saying something else.

Anyway, here's the question and comment as posted on the website. Please read it very carefully....I'll make my comments below the article........

(On visiting Jeno James at the hospital) – “Did he tell the part where how good looking she was and how bad looking I was. Well, I always have a legitimate concern for the players and sometimes it is a very detached feeling that you get when a guy has a problem and you’d like to do something to help the guy, but yet, really it is in doctors’, trainers’ and medical staff’s hands. You really get kind of a helpless feeling and I am sure we have all had it when we have been around somebody that was sick or had a problem and you’d like to do something to help them, but you can’t. You get a little detached, but you try to be as supportive as you can. I have tried to make it a practice to go see players whenever I can when they have problems and have to go to the hospital. Sometimes you can’t make it to see guys when they have short surgeries. I would feel a lot better to know before I went to sleep that night, which I really didn’t sleep much that night anyway, was that Jeno was okay and it was good to see him that way and talk to him. I think it made him feel better and it made me feel better too.â€Â


Now, this is where I started "inferring" a little different meaning than his lead-in "joke" would normally take you.....
Well, I always have a legitimate concern for the players and sometimes it is a very detached feeling that you get when a guy has a problem and you’d like to do something to help the guy, but yet, really it is in doctors’, trainers’ and medical staff’s hands.

Saban then immediately follows with this....You really get kind of a helpless feeling and I am sure we have all had it when we have been around somebody that was sick or had a problem and you’d like to do something to help them, but you can’t.

As is in true Saban form, he attempts to make his intereviews as complicated as possible by adding in as many "comma'd" (new word :)) senentces as he can. I know. If you've ever read most of my posts...I put commas and "....." everywhere.

Anyway, focussing on what just those senentces I began feeling that perhaps something a little deeper was wrong with Jeno. Saban talks of "feelings of helplessness", "really in doctors' hands", and again in the article he mentnioned being detached from the players. Know, I know that Jeno passed out or almost passed out at camp and had to be hospitalized where they said he had a, crap, what was it....something with his stomach that helped attirbute to the hospitalization.

While this is all total SPECULATION, could Jeno have been starving himself to get to a certain weight or even doing something else?

Comments and Thoughts? Go ahead and telll me that I'm reading too much into the comments. I'm serious. I don't want some larger problem looming in the back of my mind on one of, if not the best lineman we have.

you have got to be kidding me...
 
Something else isn't wrong with Jeno. Something else is wrong with Saban. Or rather not wrong, but it's obvious he's gone through some times in the past where he's had players or family members he really liked hurt much more seriously than Jeno. That's all I would read into that.
 
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