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Schein: Ross is clueless and Miami has the worst quarterback corps in the league

nyjunc said:
They also have a young QB they are banking on like you and henne has been more successful in this league than Matt Moore. he's actually had you in playoff contention something Moore has never done.

IF Garrad is healthy that changes everything b/c he is a quality starting QB in this league. I'm assuming he is basically done.
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Thats true, when you start the season at 0-0 technically you are in playoff contention.
 
Oh great spinmaster please enlighten me. Today you say Henne had us in playoff contention but in that same season after starting 0-3, you used your fall back of "he played with no pressure". So which is it?? Did Henne really play well enough to get us back into playoff contention or did he play well because their was no pressure?

Let me guess. You never said that :lol:
 
insomnia411 said:
Henne is better than Moore. People Like to talk about how Moore went 6-3 in his last 9 games as if the first few games he played in don't count. It's absolute bull****. His play against good defenses in games that actually mattered has always been garbage.
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Making this statement, you lose all credability. What standards are you using?
 
The New Guy said:
The Titans, Raiders and Jets all missed the playoffs last season, but they were all in playoff contention. Teams like the Colts and Browns never were. Do you see the difference?
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Yea but Im missing the relevance part.
 
I know it's free speech and all of that stuff, but who's the person who took the time to upload that bs.
 
Nublar7 said:
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What a clown this guy is. This is the same guy that gave the Dolphins 2012 draft a grade of a "F".

Just more bulletin board material for the Dolphins players. Time to shock the world!
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Schein used to be Pro Miami, actually an advocate he, like the rest of us, is just jaded cause "the dolphins make him cry"
Who cares anyway, honestly, none of these losers know more about the dolphins than any of us....
 
tylerdolphin said:
Yea but Im missing the relevance part.
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That argument isn't relevant, but it is a fact that the Dolphins were in playoff contention with Henne at QB and were not with Moore. Again, this doesn't prove that Henne is better than Moore, but make that argument by stating the facts (like you did in post #75), not by denying that we were in playoff contention with Henne.
 
ckparrothead said:
You're holding a candle for Chad Henne, and claiming you're hardly ever wrong about the Dolphins? M'kay.

Regardless, the argument was that Miami has the worst QB situation in football. That argument is impossible to make. My point stands.

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Ummm, what? Playoff contention = 7-9?
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In 2009 Miami was 7-6 and had playoff destiny in their hands, this was after starting 0-3 w/ the better Chad starting. Chad H failed and is not very good but he had you in contention, Matt Moore has only succeeded when seasons were lost. He's never played in a game w/ any type of pressure as a playoff contender.

ckparrothead said:
Yes I realize that but unless Chad Henne subbed himself out for some other quarterback in those final two games them no he really did not lead the Dolphins into playoff contention.
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They contended for the playoffs, I didn't say they made it, they were in the race.

The New Guy said:
The point is they had a shot at the playoffs with 2 games to go. Just because they didn't make it doesn't take away the fact that they had the opportunity. Regardless, it is a bad argument. It like trying to prove that Sanchez is better than Peyton because Sanchez won 4 playoff games in his first 2 seasons while Manning didn't win any.
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Moore has only had success when his teams have been long out of the race, henne helped bring Miami back in the race. Neither are succesful in any way but Henne is better.

tylerdolphin said:
But just taking 7-7 as is with no context does nothing to say whether the QB was good or not. Maybe the team was terrible and Henne willed them to 7 wins miraculously. Maybe the team was pretty good and Henne blew. Maybe it was something in between. Junc loves throwing around team wins stats in QB debates with no context at all. So point is, that playoff contention point, along with being false, is irrelevant.
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The context is Miami was 0-3 in 2009, henne started game 4 and Miami eventually was 7-6 and in playoff position. Moore came in at 0-3, started his first game in agme 4 and helped Miami get to 0-7 and out of the race by October.



Matt Moore is a quality backup, nothing more. All you hopes are on tannehill, he has the ability to be a good QB in this league.

MadDog 88 said:
Oh great spinmaster please enlighten me. Today you say Henne had us in playoff contention but in that same season after starting 0-3, you used your fall back of "he played with no pressure". So which is it?? Did Henne really play well enough to get us back into playoff contention or did he play well because their was no pressure?

Let me guess. You never said that :lol:
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The pressure was off, he came in at 0-3, there weren't any expectations and he played well until they had a shot at postseason late in the year. very similar to Moore EXCEPT he actually had Miami in contention while Moore had them out of the race by October.
 
nyjunc said:
Moore has only had success when his teams have been long out of the race, henne helped bring Miami back in the race. Neither are succesful in any way but Henne is better.
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You are basing that off of 1 season. The guy got a concussion in week 1 and only started 5 games before he was placed on IR with a shoulder injury. 1 season as a starter in which he was removed in week 2 is hardly enough to declare that he can only play well when there is no pressure.

Pressure is silly argument anyways since there is always pressure when players are playing for their jobs.
 
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