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...was going for it on 4th down twice in the first half. Although I think they converted both of them, I think it nonetheless sent the message to his team that they could potentially miss on taking big risks and still pull out a win against us.

I think that 1) insulted us and made us play harder because of it, and 2) took the aggressive edge off his own team by giving them the message that we were such bad competition that they could take unusual risks against us and still win.

Contrast that with Saban's going for 1 instead of 2 after our first TD. I'm always a big fan of that. Why, when you're ahead on the scoreboard, would you send the message to your team that you think the other team will score again? That's what going for 2 when you're ahead does 90% of the time IMO.

Saban called the game like he wanted to win it. Schottenheimer called it like he was taking a walk in the park.
 
1st one led to a TD....2nd one they did NOT convert...and I agree...what a slap in the face...a total disrespect to our team....which i hope he gets burned in the media for. We are better than that....and I agree...it fired us up to play inspired ball.
 
shouright said:
...was going for it on 4th down twice in the first half. Although I think they converted both of them, I think it nonetheless sent the message to his team that they could potentially miss on taking big risks and still pull out a win against us.

I think that 1) insulted us and made us play harder because of it, and 2) took the aggressive edge off his own team by giving them the message that we were such bad competition that they could take unusual risks against us and still win.

Contrast that with Saban's going for 1 instead of 2 after our first TD. I'm always a big fan of that. Why, when you're ahead on the scoreboard, would you send the message to your team that you think the other team will score again? That's what going for 2 when you're ahead does 90% of the time IMO.

Saban called the game like he wanted to win it. Schottenheimer called it like he was taking a walk in the park.
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Totally agree.

Especially the "2 point convert" comment. I'm a big fan of kicking the extra point and taking the points.

I would only go for 2 in the 4th quarter. Going for 2 and not making it kills momentum. Keep your team thinking they can win the game for as long as you can.
 
No, I think Marty's mistake was not taking advantage of the fact that we were selling out on Tomlinson by running deep play-action passes, wide receiver reverses, or halfback passes.

It's not very characteristic of Marty. He's thrown 4 halfback passes this year, and he's had his wide receivers run the ball 9 times (we've only run WR reverses 10 times, to give perspective). I think Brees only tossed one or two deep passes all game. Any play-action focused mainly on Antonio Gates, which isn't a sustainable option that is going to help you score 30 points in a game with Tomlinson locked up.

Marty's screw up is our gain. Our D did a great job.
 
ckparrothead said:
No, I think Marty's mistake was not taking advantage of the fact that we were selling out on Tomlinson by running deep play-action passes, wide receiver reverses, or halfback passes.

It's not very characteristic of Marty. He's thrown 4 halfback passes this year, and he's had his wide receivers run the ball 9 times (we've only run WR reverses 10 times, to give perspective). I think Brees only tossed one or two deep passes all game. Any play-action focused mainly on Antonio Gates, which isn't a sustainable option that is going to help you score 30 points in a game with Tomlinson locked up.

Marty's screw up is our gain. Our D did a great job.
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This sounds like it could be another mistake.
 
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