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Screen Passing in 2014

Hmmm ... 43 of 48 isn't too bad, but with the opposing D-line charging through and ending up past the play - You'd think we'd have been able to do better than a 4.6 yard average. :idk:
 
Hmmm ... 43 of 48 isn't too bad, but with the opposing D-line charging through and ending up past the play - You'd think we'd have been able to do better than a 4.6 yard average. :idk:

The completion % should be high on passes behind the line but, if the OL and TE's cannot get out to block the plays go nowhere. Have to believe we will do much better this year IF the OL is playing where they are supposed to be playing.
 
The completion % should be high on passes behind the line but, if the OL and TE's cannot get out to block the plays go nowhere. Have to believe we will do much better this year IF the OL is playing where they are supposed to be playing.

Let's hope. :up:
 
I have been hoping for year's we would become better at this, even thought what it would be like to have a guy like Sproles on our team, but its been just a dream so far.
 
It's my favorite play and we've sucked for a decade in doing it. A shame too cause it keeps a D honest and has big play potential.
 
For the year, we got 2 good screen blocks from Clay and Colledge who are no longer here. James, Dallas, Pouncey, Fox, and Landry each had one. I saw many a whiff on screen blocking, and that has to change, along with Miller's drops (which will).
 
I have been hoping for year's we would become better at this, even thought what it would be like to have a guy like Sproles on our team, but its been just a dream so far.

With all the pressre Tannehill has faced, it's a natural to avoid some. Problem is that the blocking giving up that pressure cannot get out and even get in the way of tacklers on screens.
 
Better scheme fits should help. Billy Turner is a great scheme fit very athletic and a nasty run blocker. A screen is pretty much a relocated running play. Pouncy at his best position with Turner at guard. Just need to replace Dallas
 
It seemed like we got a little too tricky on our screens last year. There was always like 3 other fakes setting up a screen with RT17 halfway across the field and turning 180 degrees to throw the pass....maybe it's just me but it seemed that way. I can't remember the dolphins ever being a good screen team since i started watching every game.
 
It seemed like we got a little too tricky on our screens last year. There was always like 3 other fakes setting up a screen with RT17 halfway across the field and turning 180 degrees to throw the pass....maybe it's just me but it seemed that way. I can't remember the dolphins ever being a good screen team since i started watching every game.

I remember some of those plays as well, where we faked a run, looked to one side, and when RT came back to the second side he had no time to throw.
 
I remember some of those plays as well, where we faked a run, looked to one side, and when RT came back to the second side he had no time to throw.

Yeah i guess in theory, it could set up a big play to go all the way, hopefully clearing out one side of the field if the defenders bite, but it never seemed to work, and by the time the throw came it was darn near a deep ball just to get it to the RB.
 
Don't know how much we will use them. Seems like we got rid of the only guy who was a threat out of a screen (Wallace.)
 
Screens are nothing more than constraint plays; a counter-punch if you will. They are not necessarily a part of a regular offense or even the gameplan. They are called and implemented to keep defenses honest when they begin to cheat towards an offenses tendency and only work when defenses are overplaying in a certain situation.

The difference they have in our scheme compared to others is that we spread defenses horizontally from sideline to sideline as opposed to traditional offenses that stretch them vertically. For example, concerning the Dolphins and Lazor's offense, when defenses load the box on the inside to take away the success of the zone read, we'll run a bubble screen which attacks the boundaries. When defenses try to take aggressively take away our sidelines, we'll run a slip screen which attacks the from the outside in.

It's much more complicated than simply posting the stats when determining the success of screens or constraint plays (draws, QB runs, etc) in general as it's impact is determined by offsetting the defense and keeping them honest throughout a series and even the entire game in order to run a successful overall gameplan. PFF should simply stick to posting the stats on screens and scrap their explanation as it has absolutely nothing to do with how a QB uses them and everything to do with playcalling and more specifically to how each individual team offense is being played by the opposing defense.
 
Screens are nothing more than constraint plays; a counter-punch if you will. They are not necessarily a part of a regular offense or even the gameplan. They are called and implemented to keep defenses honest when they begin to cheat towards an offenses tendency and only work when defenses are overplaying in a certain situation.

The difference they have in our scheme compared to others is that we spread defenses horizontally from sideline to sideline as opposed to traditional offenses that stretch them vertically. For example, concerning the Dolphins and Lazor's offense, when defenses load the box on the inside to take away the success of the zone read, we'll run a bubble screen which attacks the boundaries. When defenses try to take aggressively take away our sidelines, we'll run a slip screen which attacks the from the outside in.

It's much more complicated than simply posting the stats when determining the success of screens or constraint plays (draws, QB runs, etc) in general as it's success is determined by offsetting the defense and keeping them honest throughout a series and even game. PFF should simply stick to posting the stats as the screen game and scrap their explanation as it has absolutely nothing to do with how a QB uses them and everything to do with playcalling and how the offense is being played by the defense.
Cant explain it any better than that! great post!
 
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