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Here's my take on the players that helped themselves and hurt themselves this past week. The criteria I am using is a change of perception regarding their abilities. If players played exactly as expected they didnt make the lists.

This is just my preliminary take after watching the week's practices and game. I got the game on tape so if I have changes or players to add or take out I'll revise it

BTW - This was kind of stream of consciousness so if you disagree with any let me know. It'll give me some pointers on who to watch for when i hit the vcr

In no particular order



Winners

QB
Chad Henne Michigan -Showed a nice arm. most ready to go of all the QBs
Joe Flacco Delaware - The gun just floored people/ rough start to week but picked up later on/ highest upside of any QB in draft but you'll have to wait three years before you know

RB
Matt Forte Tulane Really displayed nice power and burst
Jacob Hester L.S.U. Gritty guy, just a football player
Chauncey Washington U.S.C. Completely off my radar but impressed in game
Tashard Choice Georgia Tech Another guy I wasnt expecting but showed great potential as backup
Rafael Little Kentucky Injuries hurt his senior year but showed well this week
justin Forsett California personally not my cup of tea but he impressed others

FB
Owen Schmitt West Virginia Nice pop

TE
Jacob Tamme Kentucky Thought he had a good week
Kellen Davis Michigan State Really showed that he could be a force down the road with the sick height he possesses
Brad Cottam Tenneessee Absolutely a Parcells type. Just a tough guy who showed surpisingly soft hands and decent ability to get an extra couple of yds in a bull in a china shop kinda way
Martin Rucker Missouri blocking improved as week went along. That was the major concern going in

WR
Lavelle Hawkins California Desean's partner in crime really shined all week
Eddie Royal Virginia Tech VT was a tough scholl to scout these guys due to the system but he showed he belongs
Andre Caldwell Florida What a catch plus a great week equals rising stock
Donnie Avery Houston needs to work on routes but speed is there
Dexter Jackson Appalachian State Same as Avery
Dorien Bryant Purdue Really showed something. Wasnt on my radar before this week

OL
Oneil Cousins U.T.E.P. This guy will be a great guard in the NFL
Carl Nicks Nebraska - Wow, just wow. made himself alot of money this week
Gosder Cherilus Boston College -This guy has been up and down all year for me. Expected the world early this season. Had a disappointing season the left side IMO and just came right back with a real good week
Chris Williams Vanderbilt Borderline 1st round performance this week

DL
Trevor Laws Notre Dame Just fantastic performance. Size will hurt but great for a 4-3 rotation defense
Sedric Ellis U.S.C. MVP of senior BOWL WEEK
Lawrence Jackson U.S.C. Really nice week
Cliff Avrill Purdue Didnt dominate but I thought he held his own and he's here due to my poor expectations of him going in
Red Bryant Texas A&M I just love this guy. Nasty little mean streak. Perfect NT for 3-4 though not a dominator but rather a load type. Will have to be rotated however
Jeremy Thompson Wake Forest - Remember this name. Quiet week media wise but this guy is the real deal. Had a pass deflection in game. Impressed during week

LB
Ali Highsmith L.S.U. All over the place
Jordan Dizon Colorado needs to be protected at next level but could play in 4-3. reminds me of a poor man's zach thomas
Xavier Adibi Virginia Tech This guy really surprised me
Keith Rivers U.S.C. Excellent week
Phillip Wheeler Georgia Tech Another guy who was great all weeek

DB
Leodis McKelvin Troy State Could have moved himself to #1 CB
Chevis Jackson L.S.U. Really liked his game
Thomas DeCoud California Thought he handled himself well this week
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee State What a week and game. Him and McKelvin really muddled the CB picture draftwise
Patrick Lee Auburn great week
Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame I really thought this guy had bust written all over but he played alot better than I expected. He's a legit prospect



Losers

QB
Colt Brennan Hawaii Might have played himself into the 6th or 7th round. Weighing in at 185 (flu excuse) didnt help
Andre Woodson Kentucky Couldnt match the performance of Henne and the excitement of Flacco. Could drop to 5th QB
Erik Ainge Tennessee Absolutely horrible week, capped by a last minute TD drive Dont think it was enough to make up for the week

WR
Jordy Nelson Kansas State Great week but speed is an issue. I think the speed issue is going to drop him. Still like him though
Adarius Bowman Oklahoma State Tons of drops but Henne and Flacco loved him. Rough week but I still like him
Limas Sweed Texas Just seemed to me before the injury he wasnt getting seperation. Think he dropped out of first


OL
Kory Lichtensteiger B.G.S.U. Horrible game
Mike McGlynn Pittsburgh Horrible week

DL
Jason Jones Eastern Michigan bad week


DB
DuJuan Tribble Boston College had much higher expectations for him. still like him but he's probably a 4th rounder at best
Tracy Porter Indiana Really thought he copuld have been a first rounder but although he's good in coverage he plays a little soft in run support. Probably 2nd rounder, maybe 3rd
 
Wow I disagree with on Ainge.

Ainge played the best out of any QB. Led his team for the GW drive. That took poise.

He ran the offense like a real pro.
 
Trevor Laws Notre Dame Just fantastic performance. Size will hurt but great for a 4-3 rotation defense
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what do you mean? he is as big as any other "NT" on the draft
 
Majpain said:
He made some nice throws.

Accurate, calm in the pocket.

Not all of them were dink and dunk. Btw Ainge just bought himself a 3rd round pick.
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Well I think the last drive was a thing of beauty. His week hurt him more than the game. I just dont think the game helped enough. Just my opinion. I thought people would disagree with this one. You could be right. I'm no expert
 
Great writeup. Agreed 100%. Only thing I would add is Bruce Davis to the winners. He really showed he could play LB with the same energy as he did when he was with us at DE. 4 solo tackles and was always around the ball with his speed. I really really hope we can draft him because he's almost perfect for Parcells (save his height and weight but that didn't stop Parcells from drafting Burnett).

adamprez2003 said:
Chad Henne Michigan -Showed a nice arm. most ready to go of all the
Joe Flacco Delaware - The gun just floored people/ rough start to week but picked up later on/ highest upside of any QB in draft but you'll have to wait three years before you know
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Starting to like Henne and Flacco more and more.

adamprez2003 said:
Chauncey Washington U.S.C. Completely off my radar but impressed in game
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I've always had Chauncey on my board because I just can't ignore an ex-HS teammate who could become an NFL Player (maybe even a Dolphin!).

adamprez2003 said:
Martin Rucker Missouri blocking improved as week went along. That was the major concern going in
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A lot of people like Fred Davis, but I've been more interested in Martin Rucker in a later round. That TD and his improvement in blocking have impressed me.

adamprez2003 said:
Gosder Cherilus Boston College -This guy has been up and down all year for me. Expected the world early this season. Had a disappointing season the left side IMO and just came right back with a real good week
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Cherius I think really solidified himself as a good RT but as a LT, still has questions.

adamprez2003 said:
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tennessee State What a week and game. Him and McKelvin really muddled the CB picture draftwise
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I want DRC. I wanted him in a Fins uni before the Senior Bowl and offseason, I want him in a Fins uni now, and I still want him in a Fins uni even if someone else drafts him. Just reminds me too much of his cousin Antonio.

adamprez2003 said:
Losers
Adarius Bowman Oklahoma State Tons of drops but Henne and Flacco loved him. Rough week but I still like him
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Really disappointed in Bowman in the Senior Bowl. He was my early tab to be the big target WR that we so sorely need and what separates the Super Bowl teams from the rest of the teams. I can only hope he bounces back with a good 40 time in the Combine and private workouts.

adamprez2003 said:
Tracy Porter Indiana Really thought he copuld have been a first rounder but although he's good in coverage he plays a little soft in run support. Probably 2nd rounder, maybe 3rd
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I always thought Porter wasn't a 1st rounder. Still would be an upgrade for our team.
 
Regan21286 said:
Great writeup. Agreed 100%. Only thing I would add is Bruce Davis to the winners. He really showed he could play LB with the same energy as he did when he was with us at DE. 4 solo tackles and was always around the ball with his speed. I really really hope we can draft him because he's almost perfect for Parcells (save his height and weight but that didn't stop Parcells from drafting Burnett).



I've always had Chauncey on my board because I just can't ignore an ex-HS teammate who could become an NFL Player (maybe even a Dolphin!).




Cherius I think really solidified himself as a good RT but as a LT, still has questions.



Really disappointed in Bowman in the Senior Bowl. He was my early tab to be the big target WR that we so sorely need and what separates the Super Bowl teams from the rest of the teams. I can only hope he bounces back with a good 40 time in the Combine and private workouts.



I always thought Porter wasn't a 1st rounder. Still would be an upgrade for our team.
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You know I gotta tell you. You're the one who made me aware of Bruce Davis and I really, really like him. I think you're spot on with him. The reason I left him off is he really was having trouble dropping into coverage which is to be expected. I think he will be a great pickup but I dont think his stock moved up or down during this week. 2nd or 3rd rounder. Combine will determine which

Awesome about Chauncey lol. He's an enemy though. Dont show that sig to him, lol.

Yeah I would really have to hate my QB to play Cherilous at LOT. Definitely an ROT

I dont think Bowman was that disappointing, its just he really had a chance to shine but had too many drops. Huge mismatch though. And the fact that Henne and Flacco spoke the world of him speaks alot more to me than the rough week he had. I still like him and I think he could be areal bargain if his stock falls due to this week

DRC was sick and Porter disappointed me. I probably expected too much of him going in
 
adamprez2003 said:
You know I gotta tell you. You're the one who made me aware of Bruce Davis and I really, really like him. I think you're spot on with him. The reason I left him off is he really was having trouble dropping into coverage which is to be expected. I think he will be a great pickup but I dont think his stock moved up or down during this week. 2nd or 3rd rounder. Combine will determine which

Awesome about Chauncey lol. He's an enemy though. Dont show that sig to him, lol.

Yeah I would really have to hate my QB to play Cherilous at LOT. Definitely an ROT

I dont think Bowman was that disappointing, its just he really had a chance to shine but had too many drops. Huge mismatch though. And the fact that Henne and Flacco spoke the world of him speaks alot more to me than the rough week he had. I still like him and I think he could be areal bargain if his stock falls due to this week

DRC was sick and Porter disappointed me. I probably expected too much of him going in
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Yea, he did have some issues with coverage after playing at DE for so long. Because of it, he never finished his training at LB at UCLA. Those issues are mostly due to inexperience rather than physical or mental inabilities. He has the speed and ball-hawking ability to be an effective coverage LB and still be the dynamic pass rushing guy he excels at being. We have the capability to just have Davis on solely as a pass rusher (sort of a Bradie James role) while he gets up to speed on LB techniques. He could always sub in for Porter once in a while.

Haha, I've shown it to Chauncey numerous occasions. There are a lot more where that came from :D. But he still sends me and other former teammates tix to games (last one I had time for was Rose Bowl vs. Michigan). Hopefully, he can send me Dolphins tix in the future. :wink:

Yea, if you notice, the team was running on Cherius's side almost all game long. Guy knows how to push the pile. Just can't handle the pass rush on the left.

I sort of hope Bowman's stock can drop so we can get him cheaper. But this was just too uncharacteristic of him to even have those drops in the first place. He could've made himself a 1st round candidate easily with his talent (fortunately for us he didn't). I think he can bounce back (but not too much :lol:).

DRC really needed to show he could compete with higher competition levels and he did. I just hope he didn't push himself out of our reach because I would throw that #32 pick at him so fast, the Giants wouldn't have even put down their phone yet after their pick. :)
 
Regan21286 said:
Yea, he did have some issues with coverage after playing at DE for so long. Because of it, he never finished his training at LB at UCLA. Those issues are mostly due to inexperience rather than physical or mental inabilities. He has the speed and ball-hawking ability to be an effective coverage LB and still be the dynamic pass rushing guy he excels at being. We have the capability to just have Davis on solely as a pass rusher (sort of a Bradie James role) while he gets up to speed on LB techniques. He could always sub in for Porter once in a while.

Haha, I've shown it to Chauncey numerous occasions. There are a lot more where that came from :D. But he still sends me and other former teammates tix to games (last one I had time for was Rose Bowl vs. Michigan). Hopefully, he can send me Dolphins tix in the future. :wink:

Yea, if you notice, the team was running on Cherius's side almost all game long. Guy knows how to push the pile. Just can't handle the pass rush on the left.

I sort of hope Bowman's stock can drop so we can get him cheaper. But this was just too uncharacteristic of him to even have those drops in the first place. He could've made himself a 1st round candidate easily with his talent (fortunately for us he didn't). I think he can bounce back (but not too much :lol:).

DRC really needed to show he could compete with higher competition levels and he did. I just hope he didn't push himself out of our reach because I would throw that #32 pick at him so fast, the Giants wouldn't have even put down their phone yet after their pick. :)
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Nothing would please me more than having the 1st pick in the 2nd round following the Giants:up:
 
I think the place kickers need to be added to your losers list. Missing short field goals in an all-star game isn't going to help your draft status.
 
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