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He is probably the second best 3-4 OLB outside of Jerry Hughes who is the best. But this kid has talent, 6-4, 250 lbs. and runs a 4.5. 47 tackles, 17 TFLs, and 31 QB Hurries and only 3 sacks but that is because he was playing DE this year. last year he had 53 tackles, 10 sacks, 14 TFL, 15 pressures as an OLB. He should be around from mid 2nd to early 3rd. Do you think we look at him
 
If size really does matter to our FO then him and Ricky Sapp out of Clemson would both be on our radar. They are the two tallest OLB with talent in the draft. I can't believe that we would discount Hughes because of 2 inches but then its not my ideals.
 
But will Hughes be available in the 2nd? cuz if he is i would take him.
 
Ricky Sapp is an up and down player. I'll pass. I like Jerry Hughes of TCU in Round 2; Dexter Davis of Arizona State in Round 4; Brandon Lang of Troy in Round 4; Brandon Graham in Round 1
 
No. Fins dont look at Kindle here. As someone with 2 decades experience with talent evaluation - I no longer do it professionally, but I still travel around the country to get the ole measuring tape out on young athletes - I can assure you that the Fine wont be looking Kindle's way. He is a solid collegiate player, but my notes and scouting of him leads me to think he is too butt-heavy and lacks the crisp explosion you want to see at his position.

Decent athlete, decent range, but lacks that firecracker type explosion of speed and power. Sometimes plays limp-in-the-wash also (an insider's term for not being very stout or hard enough when he is surrounded by other strong men, such as the big-ugglies up front).

My grade on Kindle is a C+/B-, will be a decent Pro as long as he is not asked to do too much in the hole and is allowed to penetrate around the creases. Good kid though and I wish him all the best.
 
talent_scout said:
He is a solid collegiate player, but my notes and scouting of him leads me to think he is too butt-heavy and lacks the crisp explosion you want to see at his position.
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Best adjective I've seen on FH in a long time - kudos.

I think there's about 7-8 solid OLB prospects that will be available with our 2nd or 3rd round picks. No need to grab one early if there's another BPA.
 
talent_scout said:
No. Fins dont look at Kindle here. As someone with 2 decades experience with talent evaluation - I no longer do it professionally, but I still travel around the country to get the ole measuring tape out on young athletes - I can assure you that the Fine wont be looking Kindle's way. He is a solid collegiate player, but my notes and scouting of him leads me to think he is too butt-heavy and lacks the crisp explosion you want to see at his position.

Decent athlete, decent range, but lacks that firecracker type explosion of speed and power. Sometimes plays limp-in-the-wash also (an insider's term for not being very stout or hard enough when he is surrounded by other strong men, such as the big-ugglies up front).

My grade on Kindle is a C+/B-, will be a decent Pro as long as he is not asked to do too much in the hole and is allowed to penetrate around the creases. Good kid though and I wish him all the best.
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Not to be abusive, but more in the spirit of taking advantage of your expertise, would you give us your personal guess on who the Fins might be targeting, and why? Thanx:up:
 
I kind of think he's overrated. But I haven't seen a whole lot of him, so that's really just my initial opinion.
 
I havent been all that impressed with what I've see either. Dont see much a of "motor" or tenacity and like others have said, there will be a few LB's to chose from in the 2nd....I'll certainly be watching closely tonight though!

I'd also be interested to know what talent_scout believes out initial pick will be.
 
well i disagree...i see a guy with a plenty good motor...he pursues the ball and he looks good on his feet...

is he strong enough to play solb??? that's my question

and in the stuff i've seen he looked pretty good defending the run...not derrick morgan good or anything like that but solid imo
 
ticophin said:
Not to be abusive, but more in the spirit of taking advantage of your expertise, would you give us your personal guess on who the Fins might be targeting, and why? Thanx:up:
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I need more time. Very interested in tonight's game, Senior Bowl, and work outs. I will be at the Senior Bowl, only as an invited guest. So I have considerable more tape to watch and calls to make before I come out with my Fin pick. Also need to consider teams picking ahead of Fins.

However, from my own analysis and the rumblings I have heard in the scouting community, I can give you 5 names (not in any particular order), of who Tuna and company will be targeting on draft day. This assessment does not take into consideration of the Fins moving up or down the draft board. As of now, my short list based on still incomplete information is:

1) Taylor Mays (likely gone by Fins pick if he impreses in post-season, but commitment to game issues could allow him to drop...I see Mays as least likely on this list, but I have heard this name from a trusted insider)

2) Dan Williams

3) Terrence Cody (I have huge concerns about his weight problems and I believe Fins coaches will see his obesity as red flag, could be a draft day dropper)

4) CJ Spiller (not a pressing need I know, but I have heard rumblings...where there is smoke there is fire)

5) Rolando McClain (rangy, athletic, talented LB you NEED...he is high on your board - guaranteed)

Other Names that I have seen discussed but I doubt:

1) Eric Berry (The cream of this crop. He will be long gone, but this is the difference maker you need in secondary)
2) Jason Pierre-Paul (not enough production. I have heard this name, but not enough bang for buck)
3) Brandon Spikes (will not be a Fin, def not in first round...Spikes will drop like stone this year, I would put my reputation on the line with that statement...bad hips, average body, not a great ballhawk, not a chance as a Fin)
4) Derrick Morgan - (Likely gone)
5) Dez Bryant - (hmmmm, rather not divulge yet, but I can say this, he is on the target list, will FIns have to deal to get him?)

And finally, REMEMBER this name:

Arrelious Benn (Fins wont take in mid first round, but this is a player high on their list so if they deal something and move up with that 2nd. Benn is a performer who played with a very inconsistent and marginally talented QB while at Illinois. I have him ranked above Golden Tate.)
Arrelious Benn
 
if we take taylor mayes at #12 my foot is going thru my tv...no kidding
 
What so special about Derrick Morgan, I have watched him play the University of Miami 2yrs in a row.

I see him as a project at OLB perhaps teams that use a 4-3 might see a poor mans Dwight Freeney but as a OLB Im not sure.

as for talent_scout I think alot of what you say is some what common knowledge as to players that "fit" miami needs what I find interesting is the 2 names you mention Mays & Benn have some of the biggest question marks on them.

Williams maybe, Cody no way, spiller imo another luxury pick they cant afford.
 
talent_scout said:
I need more time. Very interested in tonight's game, Senior Bowl, and work outs. I will be at the Senior Bowl, only as an invited guest. So I have considerable more tape to watch and calls to make before I come out with my Fin pick. Also need to consider teams picking ahead of Fins.

However, from my own analysis and the rumblings I have heard in the scouting community, I can give you 5 names (not in any particular order), of who Tuna and company will be targeting on draft day. This assessment does not take into consideration of the Fins moving up or down the draft board. As of now, my short list based on still incomplete information is:

1) Taylor Mays (likely gone by Fins pick if he impreses in post-season, but commitment to game issues could allow him to drop...I see Mays as least likely on this list, but I have heard this name from a trusted insider)

2) Dan Williams

3) Terrence Cody (I have huge concerns about his weight problems and I believe Fins coaches will see his obesity as red flag, could be a draft day dropper)

4) CJ Spiller (not a pressing need I know, but I have heard rumblings...where there is smoke there is fire)

5) Rolando McClain (rangy, athletic, talented LB you NEED...he is high on your board - guaranteed)

Other Names that I have seen discussed but I doubt:

1) Eric Berry (The cream of this crop. He will be long gone, but this is the difference maker you need in secondary)
2) Jason Pierre-Paul (not enough production. I have heard this name, but not enough bang for buck)
3) Brandon Spikes (will not be a Fin, def not in first round...Spikes will drop like stone this year, I would put my reputation on the line with that statement...bad hips, average body, not a great ballhawk, not a chance as a Fin)
4) Derrick Morgan - (Likely gone)
5) Dez Bryant - (hmmmm, rather not divulge yet, but I can say this, he is on the target list, will FIns have to deal to get him?)

And finally, REMEMBER this name:

Arrelious Benn (Fins wont take in mid first round, but this is a player high on their list so if they deal something and move up with that 2nd. Benn is a performer who played with a very inconsistent and marginally talented QB while at Illinois. I have him ranked above Golden Tate.)
Arrelious Benn
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Finally someone who realizes he is no Mclain
 
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