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Tackle/Guard:

Miami needs to find a guard for the right side and a decision will need to be made on Ja’Wuan James who will be a free agent if Miami does not re-sign him. James has played well but well enough to draw a big contract from the Dolphins? Probably not where Miami wants to spend the money.

If James goes the Dolphins will look to free agency or to the draft but don’t expect high draft picks on a tackle, or a guard for that matter.

Defensive line:

Andre Branch, Williams Hayes, and Robert Quinn will not likely be back. Of the three Hayes has the better chance because he will be cheap. Cutting both Branch and Quinn will cost the Dolphin very little in dead space. $2 million for Branch and none for Quinn. They will get back $7 million for Branch and the full $12.9 million for Quinn.


https://phinphanatic.com/2018/12/17/several-miami-dolphins-players-will-play-final-two-game-miami/
 
I would absolutely use high picks on a G or T when new regime is in place (there better be)

We found decent skill players from the street in Bolden & Butler and can continue doing so if needed adding to Wilson & Grant coming back

Pedigree OL are where I would start anew
 
Harris regressing at DE after a premium pick is used on him is really hurting us. If Hayes is able to continue, he should be signed - no brainer...only DE we have that is competent against the run. Branch is gone. Quinn looks like a rotation DE, and you dont want to be on the hook for those $$ for that role. Wake's best days are past him. He is, or should be, a role player at this point.

We desperately need to hit on a DE in the draft.
 
TheWozz said:
Harris regressing at DE after a premium pick is used on him is really hurting us. If Hayes is able to continue, he should be signed - no brainer...only DE we have that is competent against the run. Branch is gone. Quinn looks like a rotation DE, and you dont want to be on the hook for those $$ for that role. Wake's best days are past him. He is, or should be, a role player at this point.

We desperately need to hit on a DE in the draft.
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We need to find two starters.

If Wake and Quinn are back they should be situational pass rushers only.
 
Is it just me or does it seem we're perpetually 2-3 drafts away -- and then 2-3 years later -- it's the same...

Reality is -- more evidence TBum etc. have really done a great job handing the roster and

no doubt we'll use the same patch work solutions we've done for years -- which means

we never solve critical needs for the long term.

OL? Really???

Gotta wonder if an entirely new regime came in -- they'd probably clean the slate and

jettison 30% of the roster -- adapting a "new and improved" 3 year plan -- so we

can only hope someone arrives with a plan that actually works and gets us out of

the mediocrity malaise we've been stuck in...

*** Stephen Ross Miami Dolphins 10 year record: 72 wins 86 losses!
 
Hayes gets hurt to easily move on, resign Quinn and James. Top 2 picks in the draft de and guard to stop the run and run the ball. You need a Gore back also. RT is effective with a power running game. Draft a QB in 20.
 
Here are the issues as I see them....

How do you justify Andre Branch's salary in 2019? You don't. CUT

How do you justify paying 33 year old, Josh Sitton $7M (after we already paid him $6.5M for nothing)? I don't think you can. He is a good player when healthy but he is trending in the wrong direction. Missed 4, 3 & 15 games over the last 3 years. The issue is we are weakening an already weak group when we need 3 or 4 other linemen. CUT (depending on James situation).

What type of contract will JaWuan James seek? He has had a good year but also has had health issue and was inconsistent before his contract year. Do you want to invest in that? It depend on the asking price, IMO. The $8.4M he got this year is not a bad price but I would not pay much more than that.

Cameron Wake: One trick phenomenon who has been underpaid his entire career. Can still be productive as a role player. I would offer a similar deal to what he already has in place. Would form a good duo with Hayes if we can ever get that to work.

I would have to restructure Robert Quinn if he is to stay. Big pay cut is necessary. Sack incentives.

I would resign Hayes but not for much more than 1.5M with incentives to reach 3.5 for games played.

DeVante Parker: Time to move on.

Safety position: It has hurt us tremendously to have TWO SS's in coverage. (screw this interchangeable crap) Jones is not being utilized properly because TJ is not good in coverage. They are both locked up and not cheap. We have to move one of them and let the other play in the box so we can finally utilize a true FS in Minka Fitzpatrick. The smart (and cold-blooded) thing to do would be to move Jones since he is older. He is probably not making a friend in Gase after his latest comments and behavior earlier this year. Problem is no one is paying or trading for safeties. There were several good ones on the market this year who never got big deals.

Daniel Kilgore is not the answer at center but he is only making $2.75M. He has no dead cap hits left. He will be 32 and just missed most of the season. Not a good trend. I would probably move on and find a better option if possible.

Jesse Davis is not an adequate RG. Larsen is not an adequate LG. We may need 4 players to start on the line which is why wee need to sign James. If not, we need to keep Sitton or Kilgore.

Charles Harris: I would try to move him for a late pick.

On offense I would likely move on from Amendola.

Cutting Parker and Branch puts us at about $37M in cap space. Need to make some smart acquisitions.

On the trade block...

Kiko Alonso, Reshad Jones or TJ, Charles Harris, Cordrea Tankersley, Robert Quinn
 
Eesti said:
Here are the issues as I see them....

How do you justify Andre Branch's salary in 2019? You don't. CUT

How do you justify paying 33 year old, Josh Sitton $7M (after we already paid him $6.5M for nothing)? I don't think you can. He is a good player when healthy but he is trending in the wrong direction. Missed 4, 3 & 15 games over the last 3 years. The issue is we are weakening an already weak group when we need 3 or 4 other linemen. CUT (depending on James situation).

What type of contract will JaWuan James seek? He has had a good year but also has had health issue and was inconsistent before his contract year. Do you want to invest in that? It depend on the asking price, IMO. The $8.4M he got this year is not a bad price but I would not pay much more than that.

Cameron Wake: One trick phenomenon who has been underpaid his entire career. Can still be productive as a role player. I would offer a similar deal to what he already has in place. Would form a good duo with Hayes if we can ever get that to work.

I would have to restructure Robert Quinn if he is to stay. Big pay cut is necessary. Sack incentives.

I would resign Hayes but not for much more than 1.5M with incentives to reach 3.5 for games played.

DeVante Parker: Time to move on.

Safety position: It has hurt us tremendously to have TWO SS's in coverage. (screw this interchangeable crap) Jones is not being utilized properly because TJ is not good in coverage. They are both locked up and not cheap. We have to move one of them and let the other play in the box so we can finally utilize a true FS in Minka Fitzpatrick. The smart (and cold-blooded) thing to do would be to move Jones since he is older. He is probably not making a friend in Gase after his latest comments and behavior earlier this year. Problem is no one is paying or trading for safeties. There were several good ones on the market this year who never got big deals.

Daniel Kilgore is not the answer at center but he is only making $2.75M. He has no dead cap hits left. He will be 32 and just missed most of the season. Not a good trend. I would probably move on and find a better option if possible.

Jesse Davis is not an adequate RG. Larsen is not an adequate LG. We may need 4 players to start on the line which is why wee need to sign James. If not, we need to keep Sitton or Kilgore.

Charles Harris: I would try to move him for a late pick.

On offense I would likely move on from Amendola.

Cutting Parker and Branch puts us at about $37M in cap space. Need to make some smart acquisitions.

On the trade block...

Kiko Alonso, Reshad Jones or TJ, Charles Harris, Cordrea Tankersley, Robert Quinn
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I think you nailed it!

That said -- I don't see this team trending "up" at this point.

Too many holes. Too many problems. Too many bad coaches and dudes like TBum.

Based on the stark picture -- it's actually a good time to unload Gase TBum etc. and try to build a legit sustainable product.

BNF
 
Cutting Parker, Sitton and Branch would leave the team with nearly $42 million in cap space for the upcoming free agency/draft. That is a good first step in getting some quality players to fill some holes.

I really don't want to see any restructures and kicking the can down the road that will cripple what should be a good cap situation in 2020.

I think that the most important variable is which coaches will be either let go or shuffled around. They need to answer that question first before they start pursuing roster changes. I think that Gase gets another year but he will maybe give in to a real offensive coordinator. At least that is my hope.
 
Eesti said:
Here are the issues as I see them....

How do you justify Andre Branch's salary in 2019? You don't. CUT

How do you justify paying 33 year old, Josh Sitton $7M (after we already paid him $6.5M for nothing)? I don't think you can. He is a good player when healthy but he is trending in the wrong direction. Missed 4, 3 & 15 games over the last 3 years. The issue is we are weakening an already weak group when we need 3 or 4 other linemen. CUT (depending on James situation).

What type of contract will JaWuan James seek? He has had a good year but also has had health issue and was inconsistent before his contract year. Do you want to invest in that? It depend on the asking price, IMO. The $8.4M he got this year is not a bad price but I would not pay much more than that.

Cameron Wake: One trick phenomenon who has been underpaid his entire career. Can still be productive as a role player. I would offer a similar deal to what he already has in place. Would form a good duo with Hayes if we can ever get that to work.

I would have to restructure Robert Quinn if he is to stay. Big pay cut is necessary. Sack incentives.

I would resign Hayes but not for much more than 1.5M with incentives to reach 3.5 for games played.

DeVante Parker: Time to move on.

Safety position: It has hurt us tremendously to have TWO SS's in coverage. (screw this interchangeable crap) Jones is not being utilized properly because TJ is not good in coverage. They are both locked up and not cheap. We have to move one of them and let the other play in the box so we can finally utilize a true FS in Minka Fitzpatrick. The smart (and cold-blooded) thing to do would be to move Jones since he is older. He is probably not making a friend in Gase after his latest comments and behavior earlier this year. Problem is no one is paying or trading for safeties. There were several good ones on the market this year who never got big deals.

Daniel Kilgore is not the answer at center but he is only making $2.75M. He has no dead cap hits left. He will be 32 and just missed most of the season. Not a good trend. I would probably move on and find a better option if possible.

Jesse Davis is not an adequate RG. Larsen is not an adequate LG. We may need 4 players to start on the line which is why wee need to sign James. If not, we need to keep Sitton or Kilgore.

Charles Harris: I would try to move him for a late pick.

On offense I would likely move on from Amendola.

Cutting Parker and Branch puts us at about $37M in cap space. Need to make some smart acquisitions.

On the trade block...

Kiko Alonso, Reshad Jones or TJ, Charles Harris, Cordrea Tankersley, Robert Quinn
Click to expand...

I think you are spot on. I would try to re-sign James at the right price simply because that offensive line needs so much work. Might bring back Sitton as well. The offensive line is just such a critical spot for Miami this offseason. I suspect the team will be looking quarterback early in the draft and likely move on from Tannehill. But we'll see there. Maybe they keep Tannehill, but still draft a quarterback high.
 
Eesti said:
Here are the issues as I see them....

How do you justify Andre Branch's salary in 2019? You don't. CUT

How do you justify paying 33 year old, Josh Sitton $7M (after we already paid him $6.5M for nothing)? I don't think you can. He is a good player when healthy but he is trending in the wrong direction. Missed 4, 3 & 15 games over the last 3 years. The issue is we are weakening an already weak group when we need 3 or 4 other linemen. CUT (depending on James situation).

What type of contract will JaWuan James seek? He has had a good year but also has had health issue and was inconsistent before his contract year. Do you want to invest in that? It depend on the asking price, IMO. The $8.4M he got this year is not a bad price but I would not pay much more than that.

Cameron Wake: One trick phenomenon who has been underpaid his entire career. Can still be productive as a role player. I would offer a similar deal to what he already has in place. Would form a good duo with Hayes if we can ever get that to work.

I would have to restructure Robert Quinn if he is to stay. Big pay cut is necessary. Sack incentives.

I would resign Hayes but not for much more than 1.5M with incentives to reach 3.5 for games played.

DeVante Parker: Time to move on.

Safety position: It has hurt us tremendously to have TWO SS's in coverage. (screw this interchangeable crap) Jones is not being utilized properly because TJ is not good in coverage. They are both locked up and not cheap. We have to move one of them and let the other play in the box so we can finally utilize a true FS in Minka Fitzpatrick. The smart (and cold-blooded) thing to do would be to move Jones since he is older. He is probably not making a friend in Gase after his latest comments and behavior earlier this year. Problem is no one is paying or trading for safeties. There were several good ones on the market this year who never got big deals.

Daniel Kilgore is not the answer at center but he is only making $2.75M. He has no dead cap hits left. He will be 32 and just missed most of the season. Not a good trend. I would probably move on and find a better option if possible.

Jesse Davis is not an adequate RG. Larsen is not an adequate LG. We may need 4 players to start on the line which is why wee need to sign James. If not, we need to keep Sitton or Kilgore.

Charles Harris: I would try to move him for a late pick.

On offense I would likely move on from Amendola.

Cutting Parker and Branch puts us at about $37M in cap space. Need to make some smart acquisitions.

On the trade block...

Kiko Alonso, Reshad Jones or TJ, Charles Harris, Cordrea Tankersley, Robert Quinn
Click to expand...


One of the top priorities is do no harm. We can agree to move on from Larsen and Davis, but that leaves 2 OG 'holes.'I've lost faith in Asiata. Does Miami REALLY want to move on from James and create THREE holes? Overpay James a little if necessary to minimize holes for '19. For the same reason, I'd consider keeping Sitton at a reasonable price.

Now we move on to team 'holes.' Moving on from James, Sitton, Larsen, Davis, Hayes, Quinn, Branch, Kiko, and a couple more creates HOW MANY holes? I'm not arguing any aren't replaceable, but trying to replace/upgrade LG, RG, RT, DE, DT, OLB, CB in one draft is unrealistic.

Triage; I'd keep James, Sitton, Kiko, Quinn, if demands are reasonable. Top priority becomes, 1 DE, DT, CB, OG. Not unreasonable in one off-season.

I'd strongly consider parting ways with Jones or TMJ if possible, Branch, Amendola, DVP, 1-2 others. Tank? He's low cost and I have NO idea why he regressed so much in the off-season. Ideas? If some of the guys I'd keep tentatively (e.g., Sitton) can be replaced for less AND for similar talent, do it. I just don't want to create more deep holes.
 
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