Shemar Stewart

[Finsup1981]

Considering all this we may need to bump Harmon. Am I the only one though that doesn’t see an elite trait there?

I’m looking for obvious snap count plug and play usage but I’m also looking for high impact production and traits.



Just as an example I’m not looking for a Christian Wilkins top 15. High snap count and plug and play or not.

Its not just you i agree with you as well hes a snap soaker...heres some scouts takes on him, the line in bold agrees with your assesment

6. DERRICK HARMON, Oregon (6-4 ½, 320, 5.01, 1-2): Played at Michigan State from 2021-’23, reportedly weighing 340 in his final season, before heading westward after the Spartans’ spring ball. “Like his size, the disruption, the athleticism and the strength,” said one scout. “Plays out of control. Plays high. It hurt his production this season. He missed a lot of tackles. But if you want a guy that’s up the field and a disruptive penetrator, he’s a really good prospect. He can play whatever. He even played some nose this year. He’s got the length to play 5 (technique) and the quickness to play 3. If he goes after 20 someone’s getting a great value pick.” Started 15 of 28 games in East Lansing before starting all year for the Ducks. Long arms (34 3/8) and largest hands at the position (10 3/8) among the top 12. “He played like a fence-post 5-technique in an old 3-4 scheme,” another scout said. “Really strong upper and lower (body). Has more straight-line speed than you would guess for a big guy. Not real twitchy or sudden. He’s heavy-footed in change of direction. More of a placeholder than a playmaker.” Finished with 116 tackles (18 for loss), 8 ½ sacks and six passes defensed. “Taller, linear, high-hipped,” said a third scout. “He’s OK. He gives you effort. I gave him credit for being able to play a bunch of positions adequately. Nothing really stands out. Good but not a great pass rusher. Just kind of a utility guy. His pass rush is more stunting and effort. He’s not going to beat your ass with moves. Second round.” Started on both offense and defense all four years at Loyola High in Detroit.

 

[Feverdream]

Just a quick thought. In his latest, Todd McShay sent Stewart to Miami @13.

 

[MrClean]

Its not just you i agree with you as well hes a snap soaker...heres some scouts takes on him, the line in bold agrees with your assesment

6. DERRICK HARMON, Oregon (6-4 ½, 320, 5.01, 1-2): Played at Michigan State from 2021-’23, reportedly weighing 340 in his final season, before heading westward after the Spartans’ spring ball. “Like his size, the disruption, the athleticism and the strength,” said one scout. “Plays out of control. Plays high. It hurt his production this season. He missed a lot of tackles. But if you want a guy that’s up the field and a disruptive penetrator, he’s a really good prospect. He can play whatever. He even played some nose this year. He’s got the length to play 5 (technique) and the quickness to play 3. If he goes after 20 someone’s getting a great value pick.” Started 15 of 28 games in East Lansing before starting all year for the Ducks. Long arms (34 3/8) and largest hands at the position (10 3/8) among the top 12. “He played like a fence-post 5-technique in an old 3-4 scheme,” another scout said. “Really strong upper and lower (body). Has more straight-line speed than you would guess for a big guy. Not real twitchy or sudden. He’s heavy-footed in change of direction. More of a placeholder than a playmaker.” Finished with 116 tackles (18 for loss), 8 ½ sacks and six passes defensed. “Taller, linear, high-hipped,” said a third scout. “He’s OK. He gives you effort. I gave him credit for being able to play a bunch of positions adequately. Nothing really stands out. Good but not a great pass rusher. Just kind of a utility guy. His pass rush is more stunting and effort. He’s not going to beat your ass with moves. Second round.” Started on both offense and defense all four years at Loyola High in Detroit.

You can see the disparities in the opinions of several scouts, as it is with all the players McGinn features.
Why should we given any more weight to the one you bolded, as opposed to the one I bolded?

 

[MrClean]

Just a quick thought. In his latest, Todd McShay sent Stewart to Miami @13.

Seems most of the latest mock drafts have Stewart going before 13.

 

[JamesWsenior]

Seems most of the latest mock drafts have Stewart going before 13.

Is Todd McShay a fortune teller? Can he provide next week's lottery numbers?

Did he have us picking Chop last year?

 

[Finsup1981]

You can see the disparities in the opinions of several scouts, as it is with all the players McGinn features.
Why should we given any more weight to the one you bolded, as opposed to the one I bolded?

Just based off what I’ve seen on tape I just think he’s most similar to Christian Wilkins, good at everything but not a top 5 player at his position.

His best value imo is that he’s consistent, reliable, doesn’t get hurt and is a 3 down player, so I think he can give us a ton of snaps that we need on the DL. What’s your projection on how he’ll end up as a pro? For me he’s borderline pro bowl level starter at his best, and I’d rather go for higher upside in round 1.

 

[ONole1]

Just a quick thought. In his latest, Todd McShay sent Stewart to Miami @13.

I wouldn't be upset at all with that pick. He's a fit, fills a need, and has elite traits. Can decide if I like him at 290lbs, or the 267 he reported to the combine. Maybe somewhere in between.

I have been saying for 2 months that edge is a position that need to be addressed. Stewart can play the line or stand up as a edge.

 

[djphinfan]

Bob McGinns take on Stewart
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Could very well be why he was dominant at the senior bowl practices, cause it’s not a football game, it’s beating one man one on one without tracking a ball.

Charles Harris couldnt track a ball to save his life and was an easy bust projection, but he sure had a pretty soon move :)

 

[djphinfan]

Its not just you i agree with you as well hes a snap soaker...heres some scouts takes on him, the line in bold agrees with your assesment

6. DERRICK HARMON, Oregon (6-4 ½, 320, 5.01, 1-2): Played at Michigan State from 2021-’23, reportedly weighing 340 in his final season, before heading westward after the Spartans’ spring ball. “Like his size, the disruption, the athleticism and the strength,” said one scout. “Plays out of control. Plays high. It hurt his production this season. He missed a lot of tackles. But if you want a guy that’s up the field and a disruptive penetrator, he’s a really good prospect. He can play whatever. He even played some nose this year. He’s got the length to play 5 (technique) and the quickness to play 3. If he goes after 20 someone’s getting a great value pick.” Started 15 of 28 games in East Lansing before starting all year for the Ducks. Long arms (34 3/8) and largest hands at the position (10 3/8) among the top 12. “He played like a fence-post 5-technique in an old 3-4 scheme,” another scout said. “Really strong upper and lower (body). Has more straight-line speed than you would guess for a big guy. Not real twitchy or sudden. He’s heavy-footed in change of direction. More of a placeholder than a playmaker.” Finished with 116 tackles (18 for loss), 8 ½ sacks and six passes defensed. “Taller, linear, high-hipped,” said a third scout. “He’s OK. He gives you effort. I gave him credit for being able to play a bunch of positions adequately. Nothing really stands out. Good but not a great pass rusher. Just kind of a utility guy. His pass rush is more stunting and effort. He’s not going to beat your ass with moves. Second round.” Started on both offense and defense all four years at Loyola High in Detroit.

Grant > Harmon, I’ll keep saying it.jmo