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One of many changes of the Phins that i didnt understand was the decision to replace Ronnie and Ricky for Reggie and Daniel,, and to past on Ryan Mallett. With Chad Henne gone for the season, the Ryan Mallett era would of began. I honestly believe Mallett would of been a good fit in our offensive system. Yes he would of struggled but it would of been a season that would have meaning.
 
Relax we got a bruising back that only manages to bruise himself! No worries he racked up some yards establishing the run down 13 in the 3qt against the Texans, well until he fumbled! But he is already a Finheaven legend!
 
Ireland should be pink slipped if for nothing more than failure to recognize a once in a lifetime fire sale and passing on that gift alone!
 
twix2500 said:
One of many changes of the Phins that i didnt understand was the decision to replace Ronnie and Ricky for Reggie and Daniel,, and to past on Ryan Mallett. With Chad Henne gone for the season, the Ryan Mallett era would of began. I honestly believe Mallett would of been a good fit in our offensive system. Yes he would of struggled but it would of been a season that would have meaning.
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I'll see if I can help you understand.

Ricky/Ronnie; 46 Carries for 194 yards. 4.2 Average, 2 fumbles, no TDs 1rec for 11 Yards.
Thomas; 41 for 202 4.9 Average 1 fumble, no TDs, 4 rec for 37 yards.

That's why the decision was made. That and both of them had multiple opportunities
to prove their worth here and didn't. That's just the bottom line, and now we have a
back that's missed half the season out performing both of those guys. What does that
tell you?

Mallet may or not be the second coming of Dan Marino. Nobody knows. Right now
as little as we like Sparano and company, they made the right choice with Ricky and
Ronnie.
 
I completely understand that the running game struggled last year. But I do not believe it was due to the running backs. It was due to the interior offensive line struggling and teams stack against the run on us for years because it was the only part of our offensive game that teams respected. I still believe that Ronnie and Ricky would of had a chance to have a decent enough year that we could of waited to target a running back. I may be wrong but I did feel Mallet has a lot of talent, unlike Pat White that we took a chance on years ago.
 
Ricky and Ronnie appear all but done, Thomas looks like the real deal. Mallet may be something down the road but he wouldn't be ready to start right now
 
twix2500 said:
I completely understand that the running game struggled last year. But I do not believe it was due to the running backs. It was due to the interior offensive line struggling and teams stack against the run on us for years because it was the only part of our offensive game that teams respected. I still believe that Ronnie and Ricky would of had a chance to have a decent enough year that we could of waited to target a running back. I may be wrong but I did feel Mallet has a lot of talent, unlike Pat White that we took a chance on years ago.
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Then how do you explain the production gulf between the running backs with
one having essentially the same line as last year, and the others being on
two separate teams? That and one of those veteran running backs inexplicably lateralling a
ball on the goal line?

Again, Mallet may or may not be the second coming. We won't know
for a while.
 
Still with the Mallett garbage? Im much more interested in getting one of the qbs in next years draft, hopefully Luck obviously, than some third rounder that teams passed on through 2 and half rounds.


I thought one of the biggest complaints of this regime was not taking the qb situation seriously enough. So drafting Henne in the second round wasnt properly addressing our qb need but taking who wound up being the seventh qb drafted would be?

I want a franchise qb, not some guy that noone else wanted til the middle of round 3 while 6 other qbs were taken ahead of him.
 
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GoonBoss said:
I'll see if I can help you understand.

Ricky/Ronnie; 46 Carries for 194 yards. 4.2 Average, 2 fumbles, no TDs 1rec for 11 Yards.
Thomas; 41 for 202 4.9 Average 1 fumble, no TDs, 4 rec for 37 yards.

That's why the decision was made. That and both of them had multiple opportunities
to prove their worth here and didn't. That's just the bottom line, and now we have a
back that's missed half the season out performing both of those guys. What does that
tell you?

Mallet may or not be the second coming of Dan Marino. Nobody knows. Right now
as little as we like Sparano and company, they made the right choice with Ricky and
Ronnie.
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lets not forget he also had 1 rec td
 
GoonBoss said:
I'll see if I can help you understand.

Ricky/Ronnie; 46 Carries for 194 yards. 4.2 Average, 2 fumbles, no TDs 1rec for 11 Yards.
Thomas; 41 for 202 4.9 Average 1 fumble, no TDs, 4 rec for 37 yards.

That's why the decision was made. That and both of them had multiple opportunities
to prove their worth here and didn't. That's just the bottom line, and now we have a
back that's missed half the season out performing both of those guys. What does that
tell you?

Mallet may or not be the second coming of Dan Marino. Nobody knows. Right now
as little as we like Sparano and company, they made the right choice with Ricky and
Ronnie.
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You can play games with stats. For instance mixing Ricky's better stats with Ronnie's or not mentioning that Ricky is behind Ray Rice and Ronnie is behind McCoy.

The entire Eagles team is under performing and Ronnie has only 13 carries for 38 yards, a 2.8 YPC in spot duty. One run here, anther run a Qtr later.

On the Ravens, the running back really wanted to keep is Ricky Williams, he has 33 carries (half of the 66 R Rice has) Ricky Williams has ran for 138 yards which at 4.7 YPC is better then Ray Rices. You also missed that Ricky has 2 pass receptions for 15 yards, not just one.

So now we have in D Thomas a slower version of Ronnie Brown that cost us a couple of picks that could have been used on...hmmm, the OL? Some blocking would help since neither R Bush or D Thomas can pass block or pick us a blitz. I was not surprised that Chad Henne was hurt on a mistake in the backfield, I called that before the season started. I just thought it would be Thomas and not Hillard that did it.

People get so far on one side or the other, my spot is more in the middle. OK, Draft D Thomas. Trade for and overpay R Bush. But WTF not keep Ricky Williams? Were we holding that roster spot open for L Johnson or S Slaton?

I'm 100% sure that Ricky Williams would have played in all four games. I'm 100% sure that Ricky Williams would not have a hamstring injury. I'm a 100% sure that Ricky Williams could have helped us running the ball in the redzone. I'm 100% sure that Ricky Williams can pick up a blitz.

And hey, get this, HE LIVES HERE, IF WE WOULD OF ASKED HIM, HE WOULD HAVE RESIGNED HERE FOR LESS THEN WE HAVE PAID THE RUNNING BACKS TO TRY TO REPLACE RICKY.

I'm also 100% sure that in the last couple of months, from time to time, as they were bringing RBs off the street to try out, someone in the FO quietly said "OMG, why didn't we keep one of our running backs?".
 
GoonBoss said:
Then how do you explain the production gulf between the running backs with
one having essentially the same line as last year, and the others being on
two separate teams? That and one of those veteran running backs inexplicably lateralling a
ball on the goal line?

Again, Mallet may or may not be the second coming. We won't know
for a while.
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I just explained it, and our offensive line is not the same as last year. 2nd again which is a big difference, teams are not stacking against the run like they have been doing since we started the wildcat. That alone is a big difference!! Im not saying Daniel Thomas may be better than Ronnie, but just two unexpected good games doesnt mean its a big gap. How much production would Thomas get if teams were targetting and stacking the line like teams did against Ronnie and Ricky. who knows.
 
twix2500 said:
I just explained it, and our offensive line is not the same as last year. 2nd again which is a big difference, teams are not stacking against the run like they have been doing since we started the wildcat. That alone is a big difference!! Im not saying Daniel Thomas may be better than Ronnie, but just two unexpected good games doesnt mean its a big gap. How much production would Thomas get if teams were targetting and stacking the line like teams did against Ronnie and Ricky. who knows.
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One could argue that the line is worse this year than last.
 
Harry_Bagpipe said:
Still with the Mallett garbage? Im much more interested in getting one of the qbs in next years draft, hopefully Luck obviously, than some third rounder that teams passed on through 2 and half rounds.


I thought one of the biggest complaints of this regime was not taking the qb situation seriously enough. So drafting Henne in the second round wasnt properly addressing our qb need but taking who wound up being the seventh qb drafted would be?

I want a franchise qb, not some guy that noone else wanted til the middle of round 3 while 6 other qbs were taken ahead of him.
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I think the we dont take the QB position seriouslyt complaint was a little over stated until this year. The Ryan vs Long debate is a waste of time, Long is a great player and we needed him as bad as we needed a QB. If we drafted Ryan we could be sitting here debating about how we killed his potential because we couldnt pass block and he became the next David Carr. Our first year draft was pretty good.

When Henne showed last year that he still hasnt figured it out, we should taken a chance on Mallett. Mallett has talent his question was the drug situation.
 
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