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Should of, Could of, Would of... been the beginning of the Ryan Mallett Era...

It depends, if Ryan looks like the real deal. Then yes you roll with Ryan Mallett. If there are still big question about Mallett then yes you take Andrew Luck, you act like thats a big problem lol.

Then you wasted a second round pick on Mallet if you draft a QB the very next year in the 1st. I don't disagree that they may have missed big time not drafting Mallett, but I think what you are missing is D Thomas can't be considered a bust just yet. Let's say we do draft Luck next year.

I think we'd be better off with Luck and D Thomas than Luck and Mallett.
 
HUH many? Very few felt not drafting Mallett was the right move. Comparing him to McElroy just shows you just being ridiculous now.

Disagree. If he was a franchise type qb he doenst last til the 3rd round with 6 qbs taken ahead of him. Saying that we keep him over picking Andrew Luck due to his production overr the last 12 games of the season is even more ridiculous.

Mallett is a hell of alot closer to Mcelroy than he is to andrew luck. We pick Luck anyway
 
Its not a matter of being attached, it was the matter of priorities. We should of address the QB position ahead of the running back position. Taking a chance on Ryan Mallett, should of been ahead of taking a chance on Daniel Thomas. I have more faith in Ronnie and Ricky than i did in Henne.

i agree with u. but you have to look at the situation this regime was faced with. ireland only has previous draft evaluations to go on to show ross what he thought about players and how they were evaluated. parcells was making the picks until this draft. that means he needs something to show that he can execute on draft day, and sparano clearly needed to win this year to stick around. if sparano goes, there is a chance ireland would be out the door as well depending on the demands of a potential head coaching hire.

in otherwords, they needed to find players in this draft that were going to help this team immediately. ronnie brown could not be counted on to help this offense. ricky talked his way out of town. there were 2 lead backs on the market one of them coming off an injury - deangelo williams and ahmed bradshaw. both backs were wanted by the teams they were playing for, and both franchises were willing to pay. ireland, im sure, had information that supported this. meaning, if the dolphins didnt come away with a running back in the draft, there was a very good chance they werent going to have a quality running back this year. they liked this guy thomas, obviously ireland was convicted about him because he went up and got him.

i wanted mallett bad, but u also have to think about the circumstances. it wasnt as simple as taking him and ignoring the RB position. the dolphins reported they tried to move up to take him. personally i wish they would have tried a little harder. perhaps maybe even giving up next years 3rd rounder if needed. but it didnt happen - maybe teams were just asking for too much. its hard to say. but given the circumstances its just not as cut and dry as we needed a QB before RB given the position these guys are in. now if it was the first year of a new regime and they like mallett - it wouldnt be the same.
 
there is a reason WHY ronnie and ricky are NOT STARTING in the NFL right now. its because they are no longer starting caliber running backs. ronnie was done. ricky didnt have much left, and running backs - when they are done, they fall quickly. even if ricky had anything left he punched his ticket out of town with his remarks about sparano in the offseason. i dont like sparano as a coach, and ricky was correct in his remarks. but it doesnt matter, he shouldnt have been brought back if for no other reason, than for what he had to say about the coach. and its absolutely the correct decision. i like the pouncey and thomas picks they look like they are going to be 2 of the better picks weve had since parcells came to town. so im happy we have those guys. i wish they would have made a move to bring mallett aboard however as well, considering where they could have drafted him.

Im good with the Pouncey pick over Ryan Mallett, Im still evaluating Daniel Thomas. Im not ready as you are in saying Thomas is the answer. However I have no problem with Thomas, my issue was with that the talents of Mallet was available we should of took Mallett instead, even if Mallett didnt work out. I had a big problem with Mallett being picked high because of his drug issues, but as a late seconder rounder and our team needs taking a chance on him should of been more of a priority.
 
I'll see if I can help you understand.

Ricky/Ronnie; 46 Carries for 194 yards. 4.2 Average, 2 fumbles, no TDs 1rec for 11 Yards.
Thomas; 41 for 202 4.9 Average 1 fumble, no TDs, 4 rec for 37 yards.

That's why the decision was made. That and both of them had multiple opportunities
to prove their worth here and didn't. That's just the bottom line, and now we have a
back that's missed half the season out performing both of those guys. What does that
tell you?

Mallet may or not be the second coming of Dan Marino. Nobody knows. Right now
as little as we like Sparano and company, they made the right choice with Ricky and
Ronnie.

Correct me if Im wrong but when Ricky got his opportunity to start the prior year he finished in the top ten rushing with over a 1000 yards and a very good YPC average so when he was given his chance he definately did what a running back was supposed to do and that was starting less than half of the games. He still produced very respectable rushing average last year when Ronnie could not. Ricky is still having a fine year as the a Baltimore with A 4.7 AND 156 yards rushing. Not sure why it was such a right choice to not resign Ricky. Im pretty damn sure we could have used him last week versus San Diego since Thomas is already having a chronic injury issue.
 
Disagree. If he was a franchise type qb he doenst last til the 3rd round with 6 qbs taken ahead of him. Saying that we keep him over picking Andrew Luck due to his production overr the last 12 games of the season is even more ridiculous.

Mallett is a hell of alot closer to Mcelroy than he is to andrew luck. We pick Luck anyway

yes we would pick luck anyways. but disagree with u on the mcelroy thing. mcelroy isnt going to be an NFL quarterback. mallett has the tools to be outstanding. so in this regard mallett is closer to luck than mallett is to mcelroy
 
it was both. ricky and ronnie are no longer lead backs in this league. they never get yards after contact, and they arent explosive. plain and simple it was time to move on. ronnie brown was injury prone his entire career and was never the same after his latest injury. its not like these guys were 26. they are on the wrong side of 30 and neither has had a big season in several years. why are people so attached to these guys when they didnt even produce?

Because they were birds in the hand instead of turds in the bush.

We spent a good deal of time and money trying out and signing and releasing and signing and trying out running backs when we had a fit Ricky Williams sitting here.

If Ricky Williams is not missed on this football team then please explain the signing of L Johnson. You want a over the hill RB that has nothing left? That's L Johnson, not Ricky Williams.

Ricky Williams did not have to be the starter to stay here.

The next time you see us try to run R Bush several times between the tackles, think of how nice it would be to have Ricky Williams back. When Sage is our starting QB because another RB missed a assignment and got Matt Moore hurt, think about Ricky Williams.

If you are wondering why Lex Hillard screwed up and let Chad Henne suffer a season ending injury, ask yourself where Ricky Williams is.



 
Disagree. If he was a franchise type qb he doenst last til the 3rd round with 6 qbs taken ahead of him. Saying that we keep him over picking Andrew Luck due to his production overr the last 12 games of the season is even more ridiculous.

Mallett is a hell of alot closer to Mcelroy than he is to andrew luck. We pick Luck anyway

5 qb's were chosen over marino. Brady was drafted in the sixth round.Drew Brees lasted till second round. Not saying mallet is a franchise guy but u cant discount him because he fell to the third round.
 
i agree with u. but you have to look at the situation this regime was faced with. ireland only has previous draft evaluations to go on to show ross what he thought about players and how they were evaluated. parcells was making the picks until this draft. that means he needs something to show that he can execute on draft day, and sparano clearly needed to win this year to stick around. if sparano goes, there is a chance ireland would be out the door as well depending on the demands of a potential head coaching hire.

in otherwords, they needed to find players in this draft that were going to help this team immediately. ronnie brown could not be counted on to help this offense. ricky talked his way out of town. there were 2 lead backs on the market one of them coming off an injury - deangelo williams and ahmed bradshaw. both backs were wanted by the teams they were playing for, and both franchises were willing to pay. ireland, im sure, had information that supported this. meaning, if the dolphins didnt come away with a running back in the draft, there was a very good chance they werent going to have a quality running back this year. they liked this guy thomas, obviously ireland was convicted about him because he went up and got him.

i wanted mallett bad, but u also have to think about the circumstances. it wasnt as simple as taking him and ignoring the RB position. the dolphins reported they tried to move up to take him. personally i wish they would have tried a little harder. perhaps maybe even giving up next years 3rd rounder if needed. but it didnt happen - maybe teams were just asking for too much. its hard to say. but given the circumstances its just not as cut and dry as we needed a QB before RB given the position these guys are in. now if it was the first year of a new regime and they like mallett - it wouldnt be the same.

I agree with you on why the regime made those moves. I disagree on that those were good enough reasons to pass on Mallett in the second round. I believe that Mallett has top ten talent, i may be wrong but that is my belief. Maybe his drug issue were worse than i thought, and i believed they were bad. Thomas went exactly where i thought he projected.
 
Many of us dont feel that drafting Mallett would of been addressing the qb position properly. I'd much rather have Pouncey, Thomas,
+1

If there are still big question about Mallett then yes you take Andrew Luck, you act like thats a big problem lol.
And in the course of doing so you are wasting picks. Wasting picks is a big problem.

Miami has wasted enough picks in the past. Time to start picking players who are going to stick around a couple of years and contribute.
 
Correct me if Im wrong but when Ricky got his opportunity to start the prior year he finished in the top ten rushing with over a 1000 yards and a very good YPC average so when he was given his chance he definately did what a running back was supposed to do and that was starting less than half of the games. He still produced very respectable rushing average last year when Ronnie could not. Ricky is still having a fine year as the a Baltimore with A 4.7 AND 156 yards rushing. Not sure why it was such a right choice to not resign Ricky. Im pretty damn sure we could have used him last week versus San Diego since Thomas is already having a chronic injury issue.

156 yards through 4 games? hes not exactly setting the world on fire. if he would have kept his mouth shut he would have been retained - as simple as that. ricky is 34 years old if not 35. u cant depend on the guy for obvious reasons, including his age. it was time to move on. how many 100 yard games did he have last year? profootballfocus had him rated as one of the least elusive running backs in the NFL. when was the last time he broke a run of 20 yards even? youre acting like we got rid of adrian peterson. ricky williams is done. we can get the type of production ricky williams would provide from a guy like larry johnson if it was needed
 
yes we would pick luck anyways. but disagree with u on the mcelroy thing. mcelroy isnt going to be an NFL quarterback. mallett has the tools to be outstanding. so in this regard mallett is closer to luck than mallett is to mcelroy

Luck is the best qb prospect coming out since Elway. Mallett is a middle round selection. To me there is no comparison. Either way we both agree that would take Luck anyway. My point is that too many people got caught up on the Ryan Mallett thing for little to no reason. Yeah hes got a big arm but so do alot of qbs who turn out to be busts.

Ryan Mallett was just a fancy name people got caught up with but the reality is that he was passed on over and over again. It is on par when poeple said we should draft Troy Smith, another fancy name. Ive never seen a guy who was passed over for 6 other qbs thought of so highly that he could be our franchise savor or that could wo should pass on a once in a generation talent like Luck

I have no problem that we passed on Mallett. Personally i wanted Ponder and would of been upset if we passed on him but he was already gone. To me there was noone worth wasting a 1st or 2nd round pick on
 
Im good with the Pouncey pick over Ryan Mallett, Im still evaluating Daniel Thomas. Im not ready as you are in saying Thomas is the answer. However I have no problem with Thomas, my issue was with that the talents of Mallet was available we should of took Mallett instead, even if Mallett didnt work out. I had a big problem with Mallett being picked high because of his drug issues, but as a late seconder rounder and our team needs taking a chance on him should of been more of a priority.

im sure the "drug issues" with mallett were overblown if even accurate at all. kid probably smoked dope a couple times with some kids he knew. big deal. **** if we would have held onto ricky he probably could have hooked the guy up. since we didnt draft mallett, williams was no longer needed
 
5 qb's were chosen over marino. Brady was drafted in the sixth round.Drew Brees lasted till second round. Not saying mallet is a franchise guy but u cant discount him because he fell to the third round.

Im not discounting him. Im just saying that i have no problem passing on him much like i usually have no problem passing on many mid round qbs.
 
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