No, I think its because some people that frequent this board actually watch games. If you watch a game or two, you can see this kid is developing nicely for a QB.
Should the Miami Dolphins draft a QB?
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No, I think its because some people that frequent this board actually watch games. If you watch a game or two, you can see this kid is developing nicely for a QB.
Perhaps my question wasn't clear. None of the QBs you mention meet the criteria. My question was prompted by the cries of the Tannehill doubters to "draft another QB", because he hasn't "proven anything yet". The question was how many of the current starters were acquired when the current starter was still considered "the guy" and was fairly young.
Cousins was drafted the same year as RGIII, and even that raised a few eyebrows on draft day. Kaepernick was drafted when Smith was entering his 6th year of mediocrity and SF was looking to replace him. Mallet isn't starting. Osweiler isn't starting. Jones isn't starting. Also, Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger are all veterans. Their teams were not drafting a QB as a fallback in case they didn't work out.
The closest parallel is when Atl drafted Schaub in 2004 after having drafted Vick in 2001.
It just doesn't happen very often and it is rarely the way a team acquires its future starter. IMO, the Dolphins are better off drafting a player that is likely to contribute in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th round.
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He was sacked damn near 60 times last year... Let's protect the kid before we crucify him.
I think most of the guys I listed still qualify under your criteria being that some have already started or will become starter in the near future. And the fact that many of them aren't starting was exactly my point. Its not uncommon to spend a mid-round draft pick on a No. 2 QB.
But that's not some are asking for. They are asking for competition with Tannehill. Mallet, Jones, Osweiler were not brought in to compete with the starter. I'd be fine with the Fins drafting another QB if they didn't have so many holes to fill elsewhere. Other than Altanta, can you name a single team with a highly drafted, highly regarded young QB entering his 3rd year that drafted a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round?
Can you imaging Indy drafting a QB in the second or third round this year to compete with Luck? Seattle? SF? Philly?
With the needs at LB, OL, TE, safety, and depth everywhere, no thanks.
If they don't have a decent second string QB, yes I could see it happening. I know you want to frame this as an argument where you only draft a QB that high to compete for a starting position, but I'm trying to explain that teams draft a QB that high just to have a decent No. 2 QB.
4th round? Maybe. 2nd round? No. 3rd round? Probably not.
Also depends on the team, their needs and the # of draft picks they have.
You keep ignoring what triggered my original post.... people advocating drafting a QB to compete with Tannehill. IMO, draft a QB for that purpose this year is stupid.
I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the teams with young, developing QBs feel the same way.
Indy, Seattle, Philly, Wash, SF, Carolina, Atl, Miami, Bal, Cin, Det, Stl will not draft a QB in the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round this year.
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the answer you are looking for is....
NOTHING REALLY.
He is accurate for mid to short range. Always checks down on 3rd down. And has no pocket awareness. In a time in the NFL where it is easy to be a QB.
But yea.... he's fine.
He was a top 15 QB with a bottom 5 supporting cast. RGIII wilted and was ultimately benched when facing the same kind of pressure as Tannehill. And RGIII had a running game to support him.
What you said was drafting a QB for an "insurance" policy. And I gave you a list of QB's who were drafted as insurance. It really is that simple.
I believe Tannehill is a franchise QB, but if Miami wanted to spend a mid round pick on a QB with a lot of upside and good value for the pick, I wouldnt be against it. Even Philbin himself said he wanted more competition at the QB position this year.
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hoops
Tua time!
As an insurance policy against Tannehill not being starter material not as an insurance policy against injury. You didn't name a single QB that met the original criteria. None of them were brought in to compete with the starter.
Do you advocate drafting a QB and having an open competition in camp? Because that is what the goofiest of the site's clowns want.
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I stand corrected. The goofiest of the site's clowns want this....
The OL performance alone puts the supporting cast in the bottom 5.
That's an excuse.