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Should Vonnie Holliday keep quiet?!

Vonnie, you don't understand the move? Let me break it down for you. THE TEAM IS REBUILDING. There is a youth movement going on in Miami, and by season's end you may be seeing the door yourself. You're a nice guy, Vonnie. But, it's about the futue in Miami.
 
i never trusted vonnie holliday and i still dont..hes a poser
 
I agree with Vonnie....with Jason taylor I had us getting to .500 at 8-8.....

without taylor, we're looking at 6-10
 
I dont understand why guys like Holliday can' keep their mouths shut. Vonnie was one who criticized the Ginn draft pick with JT. JT is his good body so he is pissed to see him go, but can't you be professinal about it. The Dolphins are gonna tell him to shut up or lose his job just like they did with Feely.
 
i think that vonnie's talkin because he knows that after this season with his big salary and the fact we drafted langford and merling he won't be on this team any longer.

he is a definite target for future cap relief next offseason.
 
I'm sure the players and especially the coaching staff are selling the possibility of a winning/playoff season. I'm sure in that mindset, it's tough to swallow the news of a pro-bowl player being traded for future picks; no veteran wants to rebuild for the outyears when they are likely going to be retired or cut. Vonnie needs to wade through the "rah rah" internal hype and understand that the fins are rebuilding. If they could get something for Vonnie...he'd be for sale too! It's also tough to be a grey-beard and see all your grey-beard contemporaries being shipped away (Thomas, Taylor, Trent Green, etc). But, he should be wise enough to see the writing on the wall and get inline or keep his comments behind closed doors.

I wonder if the fins are now among the youngest in the NFL?
 
We all know Vonnie is an older vet who really doesn't fit the long-term mix of the team --- so his role is to be a solid mentor to the younger guys and collect his paycheck based on that, as well as playing as a PROFESSIONAL on the field.

I understand Vonnie wants to win sooner than later --- but the deferment of immediate compensation (having to wait until the next draft and then for that player to develop) is no big deal for a team solidly committed to rebuilding.
 
Hey Predaphin, can you please explain to me what the difference betewen 6-10 and 8-8. Besides neither get's the Dolphins in playoffs. The difference is that with 8-8 with have Jason Taylor for one year and he quits. With 6-10 we have a second rounder, and we possible get a starter for the next 4 years. It is called rebuilding
 
dolfan_md said:
I'm sure the players and especially the coaching staff are selling the possibility of a winning/playoff season. I'm sure in that mindset, it's tough to swallow the news of a pro-bowl player being traded for future picks; no veteran wants to rebuild for the outyears when they are likely going to be retired or cut. Vonnie needs to wade through the "rah rah" internal hype and understand that the fins are rebuilding. If they could get something for Vonnie...he'd be for sale too! It's also tough to be a grey-beard and see all your grey-beard contemporaries being shipped away (Thomas, Taylor, Trent Green, etc). But, he should be wise enough to see the writing on the wall and get inline or keep his comments behind closed doors.

I wonder if the fins are now among the youngest in the NFL?
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there was a post a while ago, just about after the draft that listed the youngest teams in the league and iirc we were in the top 5. trading Taylor is certainly making us younger and if rumors are true that we're interested in Pedro Sosa we just might get another bit younger there
 
if vonnie wanted to win so bad why did he take our $20 mil knowing we weren't a contender??? he did so cause money always talks.

it's obvious that him wanting to get paid trumped him wanting to win when he had the choice.
 
let me ask you something.......do you guys even want a player on the team who supports/understands the move?

Players want to WIN. not next year, not 2 years from now. NOW. Vonnie looks at a trade that was just made where the best player on the team is gone, and we get a draft pick....in 2009, and 1 in 2010. They made the team weaker for this season. What exactly should a competitor, who's main interest is winning football games, think about this.

I don't want the player on my team who is happy about this move.

This is move is great for the front office and for fans who can afford to look toward the future....but the job of the coaching staff and the players just got harder....why would they be happy?
 
burger13 said:
let me ask you something.......do you guys even want a player on the team who supports/understands the move?

Players want to WIN. not next year, not 2 years from now. NOW. Vonnie looks at a trade that was just made where the best player on the team is gone, and we get a draft pick....in 2009, and 1 in 2010. They made the team weaker for this season. What exactly should a competitor, who's main interest is winning football games, think about this.

I don't want the player on my team who is happy about this move.

This is move is great for the front office and for fans who can afford to look toward the future....but the job of the coaching staff and the players just got harder....why would they be happy?
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can always expect good perspective from you. beat me to the punch with that one. :up:
 
i don't expect the players to be happy but i do expect the players coming off a 1-15 season to understand why some moves are made.

this is a business after all. any player will tell you that. the front office looks to the long term well being of the franchise. the player to the here and now but all veterans understand it.
 
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