ckparrothead
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I thought I'd share some of my research I had on Beck prior to the draft.
Specifically, in his latest column, Cameron said the following:
So I thought I would dig up some of my research on Beck. I had been speaking to Boomer and Keith about Troy Smith's red zone proficiency. I also did research on Quinn and Beck. For now, I'll just share the Beck research.
For the fourth quarter, close games, I tracked 6 major games. Not all of them were entirely close. Those games were the Arizona, Boston College, TCU, New Mexico, Utah, and Oregon. I wanted to track the Wyoming game because it was against a good defense, however that game was just way out of hand in the fourth quarter.
For the red zone statistics, I went ahead and tracked that Wyoming game anyway, and dropped off the Arizona game because Arizona's defense is not very good. Specifically, the red zone stats are against BC, TCU, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming, and Oregon.
And of course the away games are rather obvious, at Arizona, at Boston College, at TCU, at Air Force, at Colorado State, at Utah, and at Oregon.
FOURTH QUARTER (Arizona, BC, TCU, New Mexico, Utah, Oregon)
Statistics: 52/79, 589 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 2 rush TD - 107.0 QB Rating
RED ZONE (BC, TCU, New Mexico, Wyoming, Utah, Oregon)
Statistics: 22/34, 150 yd, 11 TD, 2 INT, 4 rush TD - 89.5 QB Rating
AWAY GAMES (@Arizona, @BC, @TCU, @Air Force, @CSU, @Utah, @Oregon)
Statistics: 190/283, 2344, 14 TD, 5 INT, 2 rush TD - 101.7 QB Rating
I found the anecdotal notes on the fourth quarter/close games to be the most interesting. These are my notes on the 6 games.
One thing I found pretty incredible about these close games, mostly on the road, was something I didn't realize until I saw that "1 sack" note of mine on the Oregon game...and that is that he didn't take a single sack in the 4th quarter of any of those first 5 close games. I had to re-check just to make sure because I thought my 1 sack note for the Oregon game had to just be an oversight, something where I noted the sack for that game but didn't look for it in the other games. Nope, it was accurate. He didn't take a single sack in the 4th quarter of any of those close games against quality opponents until the Oregon game when he was sacked with 4:15 left in the game, up 38-8.
The other thing to like is that BYU had close, competitive games...and they generally came out on top. Their two losses to Arizona and Boston College, they stayed competitive in those games. And I don't know that John Beck has a lot to be ashamed about how he ended those games. Against Arizona, Curtis Brown got shut down on the ground, and Beck threw a TD with a second one that got called back on offensive pass interference. In fact, the team generally hurt themselves with 10 penalties for 76 yards. He had some bad field position on the first drive in the fourth quarter, but he did tie the game up with the second drive...and then much like when Brady Quinn faced off with Matt Leinart in 2005, he couldn't control what happened from there. He probably hoped that the Wildcats wouldn't be able to run a full 5 minutes off the clock and kick a fiield goal to win the game, but them's the breaks.
Against Boston College, this was a classic game. BYU was on the road against BC, ranked #23 at the time and finishing the year ranked #20. They were down toward the end of the 3rd quarter 20-13 and went on a 96 yard touchdown drive. BC went for a go-ahead FG and Beck drives them 79 yards to match the score. BYU got an opportunity and Beck did drive them for a 44 yard field goal, but the kicker misses the go-ahead opportunity with less than 3 minutes to play. The BYU offense gets the ball again at their own 10 but they can't get anything going, but then they get a chance with 20 seconds left from their own 48 yard line and Beck actually completes a 17 yard pass giving them the chance at a game-winning 51 yarder...but they can't convert. The first overtime drive is killed with a 15 yard penalty. BC could not convert either, though. BC does get a TD in the second overtime, and Beck begins driving the team to match it, but a linebacker tipped up his 1st & 10 pass from the 14, which led to a Jamie Silva diving interception as he picked the ball up off the ground. Initially the refs ruled it incomplete. The refs overturned and called it an interception. Classic game, stuff like that happens.
I tell you what, though. It sure makes me feel a lot better that the interception was a controversial replay call off a tipped pass, instead of John Beck just throwing the ball straight into a defender's hands during a crucial moment in the game. Also makes me feel better that he put his team in position to try and win the game twice in the final minutes but the kicker couldn't convert.
If anything bothers me about these stats I would say the two interceptions in the red zone. For one, the Cougars were up 35-17 in the fourth quarter on New Mexico, Beck led a time-consuming 65 yard drive but capped it off with an interception at the 5 yard line. For the other, like I said, it was in double overtime against Boston College...ball tipped up by a linebacker.
Incidentally, I bet Rick Spielman loved John Beck. Hopefully, that doesn't bode ill for him!
Specifically, in his latest column, Cameron said the following:
So I thought I would dig up some of my research on Beck. I had been speaking to Boomer and Keith about Troy Smith's red zone proficiency. I also did research on Quinn and Beck. For now, I'll just share the Beck research.
For the fourth quarter, close games, I tracked 6 major games. Not all of them were entirely close. Those games were the Arizona, Boston College, TCU, New Mexico, Utah, and Oregon. I wanted to track the Wyoming game because it was against a good defense, however that game was just way out of hand in the fourth quarter.
For the red zone statistics, I went ahead and tracked that Wyoming game anyway, and dropped off the Arizona game because Arizona's defense is not very good. Specifically, the red zone stats are against BC, TCU, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming, and Oregon.
And of course the away games are rather obvious, at Arizona, at Boston College, at TCU, at Air Force, at Colorado State, at Utah, and at Oregon.
FOURTH QUARTER (Arizona, BC, TCU, New Mexico, Utah, Oregon)
Statistics: 52/79, 589 yards, 7 TD, 2 INT, 2 rush TD - 107.0 QB Rating
RED ZONE (BC, TCU, New Mexico, Wyoming, Utah, Oregon)
Statistics: 22/34, 150 yd, 11 TD, 2 INT, 4 rush TD - 89.5 QB Rating
AWAY GAMES (@Arizona, @BC, @TCU, @Air Force, @CSU, @Utah, @Oregon)
Statistics: 190/283, 2344, 14 TD, 5 INT, 2 rush TD - 101.7 QB Rating
I found the anecdotal notes on the fourth quarter/close games to be the most interesting. These are my notes on the 6 games.
One thing I found pretty incredible about these close games, mostly on the road, was something I didn't realize until I saw that "1 sack" note of mine on the Oregon game...and that is that he didn't take a single sack in the 4th quarter of any of those first 5 close games. I had to re-check just to make sure because I thought my 1 sack note for the Oregon game had to just be an oversight, something where I noted the sack for that game but didn't look for it in the other games. Nope, it was accurate. He didn't take a single sack in the 4th quarter of any of those close games against quality opponents until the Oregon game when he was sacked with 4:15 left in the game, up 38-8.
The other thing to like is that BYU had close, competitive games...and they generally came out on top. Their two losses to Arizona and Boston College, they stayed competitive in those games. And I don't know that John Beck has a lot to be ashamed about how he ended those games. Against Arizona, Curtis Brown got shut down on the ground, and Beck threw a TD with a second one that got called back on offensive pass interference. In fact, the team generally hurt themselves with 10 penalties for 76 yards. He had some bad field position on the first drive in the fourth quarter, but he did tie the game up with the second drive...and then much like when Brady Quinn faced off with Matt Leinart in 2005, he couldn't control what happened from there. He probably hoped that the Wildcats wouldn't be able to run a full 5 minutes off the clock and kick a fiield goal to win the game, but them's the breaks.
Against Boston College, this was a classic game. BYU was on the road against BC, ranked #23 at the time and finishing the year ranked #20. They were down toward the end of the 3rd quarter 20-13 and went on a 96 yard touchdown drive. BC went for a go-ahead FG and Beck drives them 79 yards to match the score. BYU got an opportunity and Beck did drive them for a 44 yard field goal, but the kicker misses the go-ahead opportunity with less than 3 minutes to play. The BYU offense gets the ball again at their own 10 but they can't get anything going, but then they get a chance with 20 seconds left from their own 48 yard line and Beck actually completes a 17 yard pass giving them the chance at a game-winning 51 yarder...but they can't convert. The first overtime drive is killed with a 15 yard penalty. BC could not convert either, though. BC does get a TD in the second overtime, and Beck begins driving the team to match it, but a linebacker tipped up his 1st & 10 pass from the 14, which led to a Jamie Silva diving interception as he picked the ball up off the ground. Initially the refs ruled it incomplete. The refs overturned and called it an interception. Classic game, stuff like that happens.
I tell you what, though. It sure makes me feel a lot better that the interception was a controversial replay call off a tipped pass, instead of John Beck just throwing the ball straight into a defender's hands during a crucial moment in the game. Also makes me feel better that he put his team in position to try and win the game twice in the final minutes but the kicker couldn't convert.
If anything bothers me about these stats I would say the two interceptions in the red zone. For one, the Cougars were up 35-17 in the fourth quarter on New Mexico, Beck led a time-consuming 65 yard drive but capped it off with an interception at the 5 yard line. For the other, like I said, it was in double overtime against Boston College...ball tipped up by a linebacker.
Incidentally, I bet Rick Spielman loved John Beck. Hopefully, that doesn't bode ill for him!
