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So after 8 games, which players do you want back next season?

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I'm doing this for two reasons. First I want to see which players would you totally want to bring back next year based on what you've seen so far but also, I want to see the list at this time vs what that list will look like after all 16 games. With so many young players things can change real quick. Anyway, 4 days away from our next game so lets do this.

These are players I want back based on what I've seen. Meaning I've seen enough to want them back already.

Both our punter and kicker. just wanted to get that out of the way.

QB-Tua-Of course I want him back

RB-Gaskins-yes but draft another RB please.
RB-Laird- yes, he's a good back up and ST's player

TE-Gesicki- yes but he needs to step it up
Shaheen-he'll be back since he got extended

WR-Parker- yes
Williams- yes but lets hope he doesn't get hurt anymore

Oline- Jackson, Flowers,Karras,Hunt,Davis,Kidnley.......all of these players yes

D-line
Ogbah,Lawson,Wilkins,Sisler,Davis.....all yes
Edge/LB
Van Noy,AVG, both yes
ILB-Roberts, yes he's played much better these last 4 games.

Corners- Howard, yes unless we get a super offer for him
Jones, McCain,Needham all yes......Iggy will be back since he was a first round pick but he has lots of work to do.

Safeties- Jones and Rowe both yes

Now here are some players that we don't have a big enough sample but most of them are probably back,

Strowbridge,Bowden,Perry,Callaway

now Grant and Baker I'm not sure about. Both have done some good things and both have done some bad. I'm counting on a WR high in the draft and also hoping for an ILB like Parson(probably won't happen) so these are two "veterans" that could be in the bubble?

Am I forgetting anybody?
 
Fine, I'll kick it off. Fitzmagic. Keep him in house. Best case scenario he continues to lead by example for Tua, and worst case scenario he comes in to win a few games if Tua gets hurt. He might not want it but I wouldn't mind it.
 
I'm doing this for two reasons. First I want to see which players would you totally want to bring back next year based on what you've seen so far but also, I want to see the list at this time vs what that list will look like after all 16 games. With so many young players things can change real quick. Anyway, 4 days away from our next game so lets do this.

These are players I want back based on what I've seen. Meaning I've seen enough to want them back already.

Both our punter and kicker. just wanted to get that out of the way.

QB-Tua-Of course I want him back

RB-Gaskins-yes but draft another RB please.
RB-Laird- yes, he's a good back up and ST's player

TE-Gesicki- yes but he needs to step it up
Shaheen-he'll be back since he got extended

WR-Parker- yes
Williams- yes but lets hope he doesn't get hurt anymore

Oline- Jackson, Flowers,Karras,Hunt,Davis,Kidnley.......all of these players yes

D-line
Ogbah,Lawson,Wilkins,Sisler,Davis.....all yes
Edge/LB
Van Noy,AVG, both yes
ILB-Roberts, yes he's played much better these last 4 games.

Corners- Howard, yes unless we get a super offer for him
Jones, McCain,Needham all yes......Iggy will be back since he was a first round pick but he has lots of work to do.

Safeties- Jones and Rowe both yes

Now here are some players that we don't have a big enough sample but most of them are probably back,

Strowbridge,Bowden,Perry,Callaway

now Grant and Baker I'm not sure about. Both have done some good things and both have done some bad. I'm counting on a WR high in the draft and also hoping for an ILB like Parson(probably won't happen) so these are two "veterans" that could be in the bubble?

Am I forgetting anybody?

Gaskin can walk! Nothing special about the guy. But if they want to keep him for depht then fine.
The same goes with Laird...Those guys aren't bringing anything extra. You can always find good ST players in the NFL.

Roberts at LB can walk. Don't let a few spalsh plays on defense fool you.
Baker needs strong LB play around him. If he's the man at the LB position for that group then your in trouble.

The LBs are the weakest link on defense.

Grant is what he is...A special teams threat. His size makes it a challenge for him to ever be more than a few snaps on offense. If they can replace him with someone that can also contribute on ST and WR then they should.
 
Fine, I'll kick it off. Fitzmagic. Keep him in house. Best case scenario he continues to lead by example for Tua, and worst case scenario he comes in to win a few games if Tua gets hurt. He might not want it but I wouldn't mind it.
I'd be fine with him coming back but have the gut feeling he'll retire
 
Probably easier way of looking at it as free agents for next year

2021 Free Agents
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Matt Breida
Mack Hollins
Davon Godchaux
Elandon Roberts
Kavon Frazier
Ted Karras
Kamu Grugier-Hill
Vince Biegel
Zach Sieler
Julie’n Davenport
Nik Needham
Matt Haack
 
Probably easier way of looking at it as free agents for next year

2021 Free Agents
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Matt Breida
Mack Hollins
Davon Godchaux
Elandon Roberts
Kavon Frazier
Ted Karras
Kamu Grugier-Hill
Vince Biegel
Zach Sieler
Julie’n Davenport
Nik Needham
Matt Haack
Didn't know all of those were free agents. Of those I want Sisler and Karras back the most. Also Needham and Haack.
 
I think the best way to answer this; is by talking about, who I think, won't be back.

1) Godchaux - They've already drafted his replacement in Raekwon Davis. Could be back as a rotational piece, if he signs a cheap deal. Otherwise I think Miami drafts a DT/NT type.

2) Wilson and Hurns - The opt out is potentially why they are still here. But after trading for Bowden and signing Callaway, it doesn't look good for either Hurns or Wilson. Add in the expectation of Miami drafting potentially a few WR's, I think it's a safe bet both will be gone.

3) Davenport/Deiter - While they've done an admirable job as backups I think Miami will look to upgrade both spots come draft day 2021. Deiter is the more likely of the 2 to stay, due to his contract. But Davenport looks like a goner.

4) Jordan Howard - I don't believe for one second he'll be back. He's been a clear disappointment in spite of his ability to score TD's in the red zone. The rest of the RB's all play their roles off the bench very well. But make no mistake a bigger workhorse type back is truly needed on this team.

5) Linebacker - I don't think they are done overhauling the LB's just yet. While Baker has been decent, he's replaceable same for Robert's and Ego. Vince Beigel may have a chance to get resigned. We'll eventually see about him?

6) Safety - I think all the backup safeties are vulnerable to be replaced with the exception of Brandon Jones, he's been better than advertised and is playing a huge role in sub packages.
 
No running backs on our roster need to be on our roster in the future (unless Breida gets some run and looks good. Same with DeAndre Washington).

Perhaps the worst group of RB I've ever seen.
 
Agreed! We need a complete rehaul at that position.

I'd like to see Brieda/Howard get more work before deciding on a complete overhaul however, that's probably what'll happen. I'd just prefer they keep as many players for continuity sake.

Perhaps the biggest upgrade they can make in this off-season is having this young team back as a group to develop and improve together.
 
I'd like to see Brieda/Howard get more work before deciding on a complete overhaul however, that's probably what'll happen. I'd just prefer they keep as many players for continuity sake.

Perhaps the biggest upgrade they can make in this off-season is having this young team back as a group to develop and improve together.

Agreed for the guys that are producing or have shown production.
Gaskin is the only guy that has produced. But he should never be your #1...never!
 
Agreed for the guys that are producing or have shown production.
Gaskin is the only guy that has produced. But he should never be your #1...never!

I'm glad we got to see what he's capable of doing. Brieda and Howard should be given that kind of work going forward so they can be evaluated more accurately in my humble opinion.
 
I'll stick to the ones who I want to see replaced.

Baker, for sure. Has just hasn't been more than just a guy.
Grant. Yes, I know... he's been better lately. But I just don't want to clutter the roster with a tiny flank. He's not a slot.
Davenport, Eguevon (sp), Howard, Breida, Frasier, Hollins etc. They won't all go, but these guys are special teams only.
Karras or Deiter... not both.

Obviously... I'd put a qualifying offer on ALL the restricted guys... even if I do want to replace them. No sense in giving them away.
 
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