So Parker Might Not Play This Week Either

[Good_Dylan]

Not at all, I can look at this receiver group and see they’re going to be good this year.

I think that every season and about every group of receivers until we start 0-6 ...then I think trashy

Brandon Marshall time frame comes to mind...winning cures all that ails ya

 

[rent this space]

Bizarrely, Parker getting hurt etc has maybe helped the O become better by making them a machine with expectations of multiple parts contributing, rather than hope of relying on 1 big cog that is often broken or not working right.

If A loss like this would suck but by no means would it dictate the rest of the season. comes back, plays a role and makes plays when his number is called, that's good enough for me. He doesn't have to be Julio.

Yes, he was a 1st round pick, but that was 3 years ago. That ship has sailed. It doesn't matter where he was picked now, all that matters is whether he helps Miami win.

Agreed, it's not like we can't use him. He had 60 catches for 700 yards last year with Cutler and Moore throwing him the ball.

 

[Eight_one]

Ugh, this WR group is near the bottom of the league in yards, ypc and TDs. Why do people have this perception that they’re any good? Now, this poster isn’t only talking about the WRs. But I keep hearing similar things or that this WR group is really good. Yes, Wilson made a nice hesitation move that bought him enough time and space to turn the corner. Grant made a couple nice plays. Stills with his TDs is a nice start. But near the bottom as a group statistically. That means other teams are making more plays at WR, meaning when compared to others they’re not that good. I just think it’s the bias on this board and for those who only watch the Dolphins, then you’re not seeing the whole picture.

I grew up watching Danny smoke every QB around and Miami receivers putting up ridiculous yards, but every week they'd be talking on TV about a guy like Phil Simms who would throw like 20 somthing times for 200ish yards and a couple of TDs and end up with a high QB rating and winning. It taught me that yards are not a good measure of success, TDs are. Miami won the first 2 games in part because the receivers put up TDs. Miami is 4th in the Nfl in TDs per pass attempt (they score a TD every 12.8 attempts). The only teams higher are KC #1, Tampa #2 and Cin.

This is why I think that for THIS team, the receivers are good.

 

[gregorygrant83]

I grew up watching Danny smoke every QB around and Miami receivers putting up ridiculous yards, but every week they'd be talking on TV about a guy like Phil Simms who would throw like 20 somthing times for 200ish yards and a couple of TDs and end up with a high QB rating and winning. It taught me that yards are not a good measure of success, TDs are. Miami won the first 2 games in part because the receivers put up TDs. Miami is 4th in the Nfl in TDs per pass attempt (they score a TD every 12.8 attempts). The only teams higher are KC #1, Tampa #2 and Cin.

This is why I think that for THIS team, the receivers are good.

I still think TD passes are overrated. If A qb moves the ball down the field thru the air and then lets a running back pound it in once the team gets inside the 15 yard line I would say that qb is just as effective as the qb who moves te ball down the field thru the air and then connects on a td pass from insie the 15 yard line. I always advocate that their should be a qb stat for % of drives that end with any type of td, a % of drives ending with a fg and a % of drives ending with any type of scoring opportunity. If you have a qb that consistently move the ball inside the opponents 30 yard line than he's doing his job. If you have a qb that consistently moves the team down the field and end drives with more tds from anyone on the offense (rushing or passing) than fg atempts than you're looking at a very good qb.

 

[JahnDho]

It was RATIO of run to pass, not number of plays...

And that's part of the point. What you are calling balanced is not the state of pass to run now in the NFL.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct

See Miami on the bottom?

Before making comments about not doing research perhaps you should read what is being said more carefully.

I understand your point. However, ratios can have a large variance using a small sample size. Being near the bottom in total plays is a small sample size. If they ran more plays then your ratio can change quickly. If they were closer to the avg per team and still had the same ratio then I’d agree with your analysis.

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/play-selection.html?sort=numplays

 

[JahnDho]

I grew up watching Danny smoke every QB around and Miami receivers putting up ridiculous yards, but every week they'd be talking on TV about a guy like Phil Simms who would throw like 20 somthing times for 200ish yards and a couple of TDs and end up with a high QB rating and winning. It taught me that yards are not a good measure of success, TDs are. Miami won the first 2 games in part because the receivers put up TDs. Miami is 4th in the Nfl in TDs per pass attempt (they score a TD every 12.8 attempts). The only teams higher are KC #1, Tampa #2 and Cin.

This is why I think that for THIS team, the receivers are good.

But only 4tds, which is near the bottom. And 56 attempts; also near the bottom. Again, using averages and ratios are fine. But the actual numbers are near the bottom.

 

[miami365]

So you're not happy with us throwing TDs at an 8% rate?

 

[Eesti]

He doesn't fit the narrativeof a player going to be traded by Gase. The players he has sent packing are ones who he has called out for not doing things the way he wants. Gase is always praising the guy or at least he has since he got on him for not eating properly, etc. Gase is obsessed with offense and I can't see him trying to get rid of a weapon. At least not this year.

 

[JahnDho]

I still think TD passes are overrated. If A qb moves the ball down the field thru the air and then lets a running back pound it in once the team gets inside the 15 yard line I would say that qb is just as effective as the qb who moves te ball down the field thru the air and then connects on a td pass from insie the 15 yard line. I always advocate that their should be a qb stat for % of drives that end with any type of td, a % of drives ending with a fg and a % of drives ending with any type of scoring opportunity. If you have a qb that consistently move the ball inside the opponents 30 yard line than he's doing his job. If you have a qb that consistently moves the team down the field and end drives with more tds from anyone on the offense (rushing or passing) than fg atempts than you're looking at a very good qb.

I can’t say they’re overrated, but I get what you’re saying and agree with your premise. I remember times when Brady, Brees and Manning were throwing tons of TDs within 10 yards of the goaline and thought they’re just padding their stats with passing TDs when running it in was probably just as successful.

 

[russianbear]

The best measurement of any offense is points per game. That's all I care about. As long the QB can manage and run an effective offense, it's a win. I don't really care who gets the TDs unless it's fantasy related.

 

[The Ghost]

If the Dolphins WRing corp was depleted and heading into a must win game week 17, Parker is playing in that game.

I think the reason Gase didn't activate him last week is because he didn't have to. The new guys are getting comfortable with their QB and DVP needed to see that.

If your going to take reps from Stills, Wilson, Amendonla and Grant then you damn sure better deserve it.

The 1st round grade has gotten to DVP to exactly this point in his life. If that fire isn't there tomorrow, it will never be there.

I am holding out hope the light went on in the off season like coach Gase proclaimed after OTA's. If not, I am not going to make excuses for the dude anymore, not with Albert Wilson seemingly always wide open.

All eyes on No.11. For better or worse, the crowd inside Hard Rock will let DVP know where he stands with the franchise by 4 p.m. tomorrow.

 

[Mach2]

He doesn't fit the narrativeof a player going to be traded by Gase. The players he has sent packing are ones who he has called out for not doing things the way he wants. Gase is always praising the guy or at least he has since he got on him for not eating properly, etc. Gase is obsessed with offense and I can't see him trying to get rid of a weapon. At least not this year.

Guys are let go for different reasons. Some because of personality conflict with staff, some because of $, some because they have peaked, and still need to be upgraded.

Often, it's a combination.

I doubt Parker has any trade value at all, unless the Phins picked up the tab for next year. That would be beyond stupid. Heck, if he gets injured, at any point, the extension is guaranteed I believe.

 

[Daytona Fin]

He's got some catching up to do. I'm hoping for 210 yards and 3 td's.

 

[hoops]

Dvp said in an interview earlier this week gass told him on Saturday he was sitting him to give him a few more days with his finger.

So why are people running with all these other narratives?

 

[JahnDho]

Dude is injury prone. Hasn’t practiced like he should. Hasn’t see live regular season game action since last year. He got in a partial week. His finger might have been fine but I’d be worried he’d pull something else. Smart decision to sit him IMO.

Now, if he sits this week too and no word of an additional injury then there’s certainly more to the story.