how is junc the voice of reason?? if miami, tennesee,oakland, ny, cleveland, buffalo had good competent qb play all year they would all have winning records. this isnt rocket sciance man, you have a qb who struggles and misses opportunities to score points and youre gonna struggle. if we scored more points our run defense probably wouldnt be exposed as much...if we had an elite qb in the late 90's early 2000's zach thomas would have a ring. its never gonna change, you have a bad or mediocre qb and youre gonna struggle.