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It is so funny how some of these columnists make their assessments of the bad teams as all having bad OLines. This is so overhyped it's sickening.

If you look at most teams that are bad...they are bad because of bad luck on injuries.

Some are a combination of bad OLine play, QB play, RB play, and WR play.

Some are a combinatin of bad Secondary play, LB play, or DLine play.

But for the most part, teams' defense relies on DL play.

And for the most part, teams' offense relies on RB play/QB play.

We have an average OLine. We need a "future" LT, but we have an adequate LT now in DMac.

We could use an upgrade at C, but we have an average C in Hadnot.

Our main hole is the underachievement of James, but even he is an average LG.

Drafting a LT in the 1st round will not fix our offensive woes, trust me. It will secure us for the future...but it won't solve our problems, which is bad QB play combined with bad RB play.

Our WR's had maybe 2 bad games all year. So really we could stop overriding that one. But I would like us to pick up a speedster to compliment our WR corps.

A healthy Culpepper, the return of Williams in our backfield, Brown getting more opportunities, a speedster WR (which was supposed to be Kelly Campbell), and James getting his acted together or be replaced is what is going to fix our offense.

On defense, we need an upgrade at SLB more than anything else. And one more starting quality DB that's it.
 
RG is HORRIBLE. Center has been average. LG has been bad. D-Mac is below average.

The only good player on our oline has been Mt. Vernon...
 
MrEd said:
It is so funny how some of these columnists make their assessments of the bad teams as all having bad OLines. This is so overhyped it's sickening.

If you look at most teams that are bad...they are bad because of bad luck on injuries.

Some are a combination of bad OLine play, QB play, RB play, and WR play.

Some are a combinatin of bad Secondary play, LB play, or DLine play.

But for the most part, teams' defense relies on DL play.

And for the most part, teams' offense relies on RB play/QB play.

We have an average OLine. We need a "future" LT, but we have an adequate LT now in DMac.

We could use an upgrade at C, but we have an average C in Hadnot.

Our main hole is the underachievement of James, but even he is an average LG.

Drafting a LT in the 1st round will not fix our offensive woes, trust me. It will secure us for the future...but it won't solve our problems, which is bad QB play combined with bad RB play.

Our WR's had maybe 2 bad games all year. So really we could stop overriding that one. But I would like us to pick up a speedster to compliment our WR corps.

A healthy Culpepper, the return of Williams in our backfield, Brown getting more opportunities, a speedster WR (which was supposed to be Kelly Campbell), and James getting his acted together or be replaced is what is going to fix our offense.

On defense, we need an upgrade at SLB more than anything else. And one more starting quality DB that's it.



no, the o-line is the key to every football team. i agree not to draft one in 1st round, but o-lines make most runningbacks good my friend. i'm to young to have see jim brown or walter payton play, but barry sanders is the only runningback that i have seen to be good w/ a crap o-line. look at edge this year, a probowl runningback playing terrible behind a crappy arizona o-line. shaun alexander before he got hurt was running at less than 3 ypc behind steve hutchisons inadequate replacement. unless you have a michael vick type qb, the oline helps the QB play as well. its the foundation for every team and every teams success depends on it.
 
ZThomas54 said:
no, the o-line is the key to every football team. i agree not to draft one in 1st round, but o-lines make most runningbacks good my friend. i'm to young to have see jim brown or walter payton play, but barry sanders is the only runningback that i have seen to be good w/ a crap o-line. look at edge this year, a probowl runningback playing terrible behind a crappy arizona o-line. shaun alexander before he got hurt was running at less than 3 ypc behind steve hutchisons inadequate replacement. unless you have a michael vick type qb, the oline helps the QB play as well. its the foundation for every team and every teams success depends on it.
I agree. This thread is rediculous.
 
MrEd said:
It is so funny how some of these columnists make their assessments of the bad teams as all having bad OLines. This is so overhyped it's sickening.

If you look at most teams that are bad...they are bad because of bad luck on injuries.

Some are a combination of bad OLine play, QB play, RB play, and WR play.

Some are a combinatin of bad Secondary play, LB play, or DLine play.

But for the most part, teams' defense relies on DL play.

And for the most part, teams' offense relies on RB play/QB play.

We have an average OLine. We need a "future" LT, but we have an adequate LT now in DMac.

We could use an upgrade at C, but we have an average C in Hadnot.

Our main hole is the underachievement of James, but even he is an average LG.

Drafting a LT in the 1st round will not fix our offensive woes, trust me. It will secure us for the future...but it won't solve our problems, which is bad QB play combined with bad RB play.

Our WR's had maybe 2 bad games all year. So really we could stop overriding that one. But I would like us to pick up a speedster to compliment our WR corps.

A healthy Culpepper, the return of Williams in our backfield, Brown getting more opportunities, a speedster WR (which was supposed to be Kelly Campbell), and James getting his acted together or be replaced is what is going to fix our offense.

On defense, we need an upgrade at SLB more than anything else. And one more starting quality DB that's it.

Once CP recovers from the knee injury we have to see his mental game. Can he read and react quicker than what we've seen. An upgrade at center and LT wouldn't hurt. Then you could move Hadnot to Guard.

Mularkey needs to call more conservative. That's saying a lot for me. I liked Marino and his scoring fast, however, we don't have that kind of team now. We don't want to go real conservative but somewhere in between conservative and where we are now.
 
FinNasty said:
RG is HORRIBLE. Center has been average. LG has been bad. D-Mac is below average.

The only good player on our oline has been Mt. Vernon...

RG is horrible??? Do you watch any of the games, or do you just go by what you "READ"?

Shelton has solidified RG since he was put their 3 games ago.

LG has been subpar.

DMac has been a little "above" average.

Get your facts straight.
 
ZThomas54 said:
no, the o-line is the key to every football team. i agree not to draft one in 1st round, but o-lines make most runningbacks good my friend. i'm to young to have see jim brown or walter payton play, but barry sanders is the only runningback that i have seen to be good w/ a crap o-line. look at edge this year, a probowl runningback playing terrible behind a crappy arizona o-line. shaun alexander before he got hurt was running at less than 3 ypc behind steve hutchisons inadequate replacement. unless you have a michael vick type qb, the oline helps the QB play as well. its the foundation for every team and every teams success depends on it.

There you go. Seeing what you want to see. I never meant that we shouldn't draft OLine.

I meant that we shouldn't draft a LT in the 1st round because that is not going to make the biggest immediate impact.

Our OLine's main problems are C and LG. A LT is a "long term" pick. It won't make a significant impact the 1st year. He won't be any better than MacIntosh. As a matter of fact, Joe Thomas would give up more sacks his 1st year than MacIntosh would.

See Ferguson and Gallery for good examples. :shakeno:
 
ZThomas54 said:
. look at edge this year, a probowl runningback playing terrible behind a crappy arizona o-line. shaun alexander before he got hurt was running at less than 3 ypc behind steve hutchisons inadequate replacement.

Our OLine is no where as bad as ARI's. That's your problem. You look at another team's struggles and you equate that with your teams struggles.

MIA is "NOT" losing its games for the same reason that ARI is.

Get that straight. Watch our games again and you will see that we've lost our games for "SEVERAL" different reasons.

OLINE has not lost our 6 games. Maybe 1 game was all their fault. Maybe 2 were partly the OLINE's fault.

The other 3 games were not the OLINE's fault we lost.

Since MacIntosh took over LT and Shelton was moved inside for his "runblocking" to RG our OLINE has played above average....with the exception of James. And he's been hurt.

Hello???? :shakeno:
 
MrEd said:
RG is horrible??? Do you watch any of the games, or do you just go by what you "READ"?

Shelton has solidified RG since he was put their 3 games ago.

LG has been subpar.

DMac has been a little "above" average.

Get your facts straight.

About RG, I meant it has been horrible all season. Shelton has been a little of an upgrade over the rotation of RGs we have had... but he has far from "solidified" the RG spot.

LG has been bad. Alot of it has to do with Jeno's injury... but he has still been bad.

D-Mac has not been above average. He is below average...

I am not just refering to pass protection... but run blocking as well. None of them can run block or get any push for their lives.

Dont talk to me about getting my facts straight... I know my ****...
 
MrEd said:
Our OLine is no where as bad as ARI's. That's your problem. You look at another team's struggles and you equate that with your teams struggles.

MIA is "NOT" losing its games for the same reason that ARI is.

Get that straight. Watch our games again and you will see that we've lost our games for "SEVERAL" different reasons.

OLINE has not lost our 6 games. Maybe 1 game was all their fault. Maybe 2 were partly the OLINE's fault.

The other 3 games were not the OLINE's fault we lost.

Since MacIntosh took over LT and Shelton was moved inside for his "runblocking" to RG our OLINE has played above average....with the exception of James. And he's been hurt.

Hello???? :shakeno:

Bro... I dont know what line you are watching... but we CANNOT run block. the LOS goes backwards... not fowards. Our oline is just as bad at runblocking as AZ...
 
RG is horrible??? Do you watch any of the games, or do you just go by what you "READ"?

Shelton has solidified RG since he was put their 3 games ago.

LG has been subpar.

DMac has been a little "above" average.

Get your facts straight.

:shakeno: the "facts":confused: its your opinion, not fact. so get that straight first of all. so by your accounts our oline is fine because our LT is playing RG and our backup LT is starting in place of the guy we signed to replace him.??? :confused: do you think they plan on starting shelton at RG the rest of his career? hes playing there because we have no other option.

Shelton was moved inside for his "runblocking"
which is awesome since we signed him in the offseason to be our "passblocking" left tackle.


OLINE has not lost our 6 games

our lack of a running game has though and the o-line takes most of that blame (along w/mularkey) wether you like it or not. penalties by the o-line and their poor play have ruined our running game, not ronnie.
Hello???? :shakeno:
 
Bro... I dont know what line you are watching... but we CANNOT run block. the LOS goes backwards... not fowards. Our oline is just as bad at runblocking as AZ...

exactly.
 
FinNasty said:
Bro... I dont know what line you are watching... but we CANNOT run block. the LOS goes backwards... not fowards. Our oline is just as bad at runblocking as AZ...

I didn't say that we can. But as soon as Shelton moved inside to RG, RB ran for 126 yards.

We need a better C than Hadnot. Hadnot should be a backup G next year.

But we are NO WAY as bad as AZ. :shakeno:
 
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