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Some of you are missing the bigger issues then the QB

The offense scored after that fumble. The defense then let KC impose their will against them for a TD.

Tannehill has sucked but stop giving this pathetic defense a pass. It's happened for years. Like Tannehill their stats look good at times but rarely keep momentum on the side of the Dolphins after they score points.

I'm not giving the defense a pass. I'm just saying Tannehill is a much bigger problem for this team than the defense.
 
The offense scored after that fumble. The defense then let KC impose their will against them for a TD.

Tannehill has sucked but stop giving this pathetic defense a pass. It's happened for years. Like Tannehill their stats look good at times but rarely keep momentum on the side of the Dolphins after they score points.

Once we average 23 points per game I'll go guns blazing after the defense. When we score 15 (12 setup by defense and ST) I'm killing the offense. There are many problems but the QB and inability to score points is number 1 on the list.


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LOL....Hoyer was 19 for 25 with 290 yards, a TD, and no picks against the Ravens defense that demolished the Steelers last week. Without a single legit receiving threat on his team. Check yourself.

The same Hoyer who led a game-winning drive against the Saints last week and played turnover-free football.

I'm not saying Hoyer hasn't played well, just saying the fans wanted him benched after ONE game. Hoyer isn't great but he doesn't suck...he's mediocre.

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Once we average 23 points per game I'll go guns blazing after the defense. When we score 15 (12 setup by defense and ST) I'm killing the offense. There are many problems but the QB and inability to score points is number 1 on the list.


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I blame the defensive scheme more than the players, that soft cushion d really pisses me off.
 
If ur qb plays like a high school qb and cannot come off his first read no matter the down and distance ur screwed. If u wanna see hennehill play more watch Jeff driskel
 
LOL....Hoyer was 19 for 25 with 290 yards, a TD, and no picks against the Ravens defense that demolished the Steelers last week. Without a single legit receiving threat on his team. Check yourself.

The same Hoyer who led a game-winning drive against the Saints last week and played turnover-free football.

Now there is an example of a QB who wasn't responsible for his team's loss. They almost always had a major penalty derail their drives, their young RB's sometimes ran backwards out of bounds behind the LOS, and at other crucial times were trying to take hand offs on the wrong side of the formation. Despite near constant third and longs he scarcely had a pass hit the ground.
 
Everything is an issue outside of Grimes & the d-line.
 
Until we fix the QB problem we are never gonna win.
This loss wasn't all on him, he actually played his best game of the year today (which is an issue in itself, since we scored only 13 points on O), there's a lot of fingering pointing to do but he once again showed that he just can't rally a offense, he can't win those games, he just looks like a mediocre to poor NFL QB, back up material at best, hell look at Washington's back up and tell me you prefer Tanny to him ?
 
Everything is an issue outside of Grimes & the d-line.

Grimes always comes out to make a high energy play but like the rest of the DB's I see him whiffing badly on so many TD or big runs that he's not isolated from the rest in my mind right now.
 
Ben Roethlisberger has not lead his team to a touchdown in over 8 quarters, that is 2 games. Does he suck?
 
Text book! Look around the league and find another underperforming qb to justify 2 plus years of bad qb play.. Funny u use Big Ben.. Put rapelesberger on our team and were 3-0 and Super Bowl contenders
 
I'm going to give you some WPA, because Lord have mercy on your soul for the pillorying you are about to endure for starting this thread.

RT17 is obviously bad on his own merit. Today was just another exhibit is the case against him.
What was really perplexing today was the play calling. After gashing the KC defense running the ball, we pass on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1. WTF?
Some of the assignments on defense were just ridiculous. Wake covering a RB? Talk about putting your players in position to fail.
This team is in REAL BIG TROUBLE. Not only are the players already questioning the staff, but it looks like the staff is not working together and Philbin cannot get control.
Ross and Marino better call some meetings and get this BS straightened out.
The staff, coaches and team need to air out their differences right now.
 
Of course they have issues all over the place. The QB, however, is the most important position on the field, and will be the most scrutinized. This guy can't go one game without having terrible throws, getting sacked, and having passes batted down.
 
If the offense scores more.often it will keep the defense off the field and put pressure on opposing offenses to abandon their gameplan or at least force augmentation of it. I CAN't excuse the poor defense play due to the gross mismanagment of the roster by Ireland.....
 
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