Something to consider

[tay0365]

Now that we have our HC, and hopefully he is a very inventive mind on offense, I need to again remind everyone of the issues we had to endure this year, and though a big reason we won 7 games in a row was because the defense came alive late, it's no coincidence Miami started their season beating the Pats in NE with Tua at the helm, and did not get into a true winning grove until Tua came back. Watch these plays, and remember Tua had a mostly young ineffective O-line coached by a Rookie Coach, and two O-Coordinators trying to work with each, while getting experience in a new job.



Yes, these are just highlights, but considering what Tua had to work with, then compare it to the highlights of Jimmy G.



As you compare Tua to Jimmy G, ask yourself these questions...

1. Of both of them, who completed more tight coverage passes?
2. Who put the ball perfectly where it needed to be put more times?
3. Tua has a weak arm? Who actually under threw their receiver more?
4. Who was more under distress to get rid of the ball?
5. Who had better, healthier receivers to throw to?
6. Whose team had a running game defenses needed to respect?

Even if you believe both are about the same (Obviously I disagree), with the O-Coordinator the 9ers had (Now our HC), that Offense was light years ahead of us, and that is hopefully what we have to look forward to. If whomever is the D-Coordinator can hold his part, and again give us a solid to above average defense...I think we may be surprised next year with Tua, and how far the team might end up going.

 

[superphin]

The way I see it we're in a no-lose position.

If Tus takes a big step in year 3 then great we have our guy and an offense and will probably win a SB in a 3-year window.

If Tua gets injured again or he simply doesn't play well then we have 2 1st round picks for McDaniel to draft his guy or trade up to draft his guy and we will win a SB in a 3-year window.

That's right @Ray R is not the only one who can be optimistic.

 

[Trifecta Nation]

So this is a pro-Tua thread.

Got it!

 

[Joe Dolfan]

So this is a pro-Tua thread.

Got it!

I hope the guy's right, but until he has several, and I mean 90% horrific games, it's going to be pro-tua.

It's the O-Line's fault. It's the OC's fault. It's the HC's fault. It's the GM's fault. It's the WRs' fault.

 

[tay0365]

So this is a pro-Tua thread.

Got it!

Actually this is a things could get much better one way or the other thread. Like superphin said, if Tua can't hack it, he will be replaced.

Miami is going to fix the O-line with the salary cap they have, Miami will probably bring in at least one Receiving weapon, and RB.

I showed up there that Tua in bad situations did pretty well, now with an O-Coordinator, he will need to prove himself, there is no excuses, there is no a bit more time to grow.

In 2022 Tua is going to reach the ceiling that I believe and hope he can reach, or he will find himself at best competing for the starting job in 2023...Includes and especially if he gets hurt again.

 

[tay0365]

I hope the guy's right, but until he has several, and I mean 90% horrific games, it's going to be pro-tua.

It's the O-Line's fault. It's the OC's fault. It's the HC's fault. It's the GM's fault. It's the WRs' fault.

Not this time, the HC is Offensive Minded, the Salary Cap is one of, if not the highest this year, so the O-line will get fixed at worst to being OK to solid. Tua knows he has to prove himself, so the window is one year.

 

[BlueFin]

The way I see it we're in a no-lose position.

If Tus takes a big step in year 3 then great we have our guy and an offense and will probably win a SB in a 3-year window.

If Tua gets injured again or he simply doesn't play well then we have 2 1st round picks for McDaniel to draft his guy or trade up to draft his guy and we will win a SB in a 3-year window.

That's right @Ray R is not the only one who can be optimistic.

Exactly!

 

[BSQ]

I'm pretty certain that a large % of Dolphin fans jumped right off the Tua bandwagon after the Titan's game. I know I personally hadn't been so angry about an outcome in a long time. I bought in and we got stomped and a large part of the blame lands on our QB who played dreadfully. But, I got over it and quite enjoyed the last couple of games. We were simply overmatched against the Titans and Tua was terrorized from the opening snap. He looked pretty good towards the end of the season but still the poor dude has a crappy line and pass blocking wasn't very good. So now we have an excellent offensive mind leading the team and calling the shots. This might finally be the answer!! He doesn't seem like he's at all like Gase, Philbin or Flores. Flores, what a sadly flawed individual he turned out to be. Flores had a huge, fragile ego that made it impossible for him to be a leader. I'm thrilled he's out and a smart young, dynamic coach is here to lead the way. The Dolphin's are starving for leadership. I think Ross may just have hired the right guy. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

We have once again had to deal with disfunction within the franchise. The team has floundered due to lack of football smarts and basically zero leadership. Flores was a divider, not a man that united his team. He's gone and Mike McD is here. The Dolphin's could use a lucky break or two!! I'm really praying McD is the man!!

 

[Kyndig]

Now that we have our HC, and hopefully he is a very inventive mind on offense, I need to again remind everyone of the issues we had to endure this year, and though a big reason we won 7 games in a row was because the defense came alive late, it's no coincidence Miami started their season beating the Pats in NE with Tua at the helm, and did not get into a true winning grove until Tua came back. Watch these plays, and remember Tua had a mostly young ineffective O-line coached by a Rookie Coach, and two O-Coordinators trying to work with each, while getting experience in a new job.



Yes, these are just highlights, but considering what Tua had to work with, then compare it to the highlights of Jimmy G.



As you compare Tua to Jimmy G, ask yourself these questions...

1. Of both of them, who completed more tight coverage passes?
2. Who put the ball perfectly where it needed to be put more times?
3. Tua has a weak arm? Who actually under threw their receiver more?
4. Who was more under distress to get rid of the ball?
5. Who had better, healthier receivers to throw to?
6. Whose team had a running game defenses needed to respect?

Even if you believe both are about the same (Obviously I disagree), with the O-Coordinator the 9ers had (Now our HC), that Offense was light years ahead of us, and that is hopefully what we have to look forward to. If whomever is the D-Coordinator can hold his part, and again give us a solid to above average defense...I think we may be surprised next year with Tua, and how far the team might end up going.

That and Vic Fangio should do well with our defensive personnel.

 

[brumdog44]

So this is a pro-Tua thread.

Got it!

If you don't want it to be, then provide insight on why OP is incorrect.

 

[Fin-Loco]

I'm pretty certain that a large % of Dolphin fans jumped right off the Tua bandwagon after the Titan's game. I know I personally hadn't been so angry about an outcome in a long time. I bought in and we got stomped and a large part of the blame lands on our QB who played dreadfully. But, I got over it and quite enjoyed the last couple of games. We were simply overmatched against the Titans and Tua was terrorized from the opening snap. He looked pretty good towards the end of the season but still the poor dude has a crappy line and pass blocking wasn't very good. So now we have an excellent offensive mind leading the team and calling the shots. This might finally be the answer!! He doesn't seem like he's at all like Gase, Philbin or Flores. Flores, what a sadly flawed individual he turned out to be. Flores had a huge, fragile ego that made it impossible for him to be a leader. I'm thrilled he's out and a smart young, dynamic coach is here to lead the way. The Dolphin's are starving for leadership. I think Ross may just have hired the right guy. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes.

We have once again had to deal with disfunction within the franchise. The team has floundered due to lack of football smarts and basically zero leadership. Flores was a divider, not a man that united his team. He's gone and Mike McD is here. The Dolphin's could use a lucky break or two!! I'm really praying McD is the man!!

I did. His performance was horrid in that game with the season on the line. His comments afterward made it even worse. I don't know if he's McDaniel's guy or not. We'll see. A QB as lauded as he was coming out of college should have been impressing us in the back half of year one and not just in the 200 yard completion percentage category. Now we have to hope for a miraculous transformation...

 

[BSQ]

Tua was limited by a coach who didn't want him, dual offensive coordinators who seemed lost sometimes and inconsistent all the time. He lacked a RB until Duke showed up. I'm excited that we have Duke Johnson going forward. He's going to help this team. He looked very good running the ball behind a poor oline. Tua can now be evaluated on a level playing field. That is once we correct the oline and running game. We got the exact right coach to help us there. I'm really looking forward to having a coach that cares about offense!!

 

[Fin-Loco]

Tua was limited by a coach who didn't want him, dual offensive coordinators who seemed lost sometimes and inconsistent all the time. He lacked a RB until Duke showed up. I'm excited that we have Duke Johnson going forward. He's going to help this team. He looked very good running the ball behind a poor oline. Tua can now be evaluated on a level playing field. That is once we correct the oline and running game. We got the exact right coach to help us there. I'm really looking forward to having a coach that cares about offense!!

I agree that I think Tua will now have the chance to shine. But so would a certain Hou, GB and Sea QB...

 

[Kyndig]

I did. His performance was horrid in that game with the season on the line. His comments afterward made it even worse. I don't know if he's McDaniel's guy or not. We'll see. A QB as lauded as he was coming out of college should have been impressing us in the back half of year one and not just in the 200 yard completion percentage category. Now we have to hope for a miraculous transformation...

It was pretty disappointing.

However, the only thing I'll point out, is it looked like he was lacking confidence, and based on the way Flo was treating him and all that had happened, maybe that was what happened. But he was just throwing at guys feet who were wide open for no reason whereas before he was super accurate. The only difference I could figure was you have to be super confident to make those accurate throws into tight windows. If you aren't for whatever reason, then you might see a performance like what Tua put on film for that game. A good running game will do wonders.

New year, new coach, offensive guy, has a system that he can tailor for Tua's strengths. Could turn out to be good. And if it doesn't and if the NFL doesn't strip away one or both of our first round picks in 2023 due to the Flores allegations of Ross offering a bribe to tank, then we can draft a new QB next year who would be McDaniel's guy and take it from there.

 

[MrChadRico]

I mean nothing says "We have confidence in Tua" more than hiring a guy who can build a running game that will make Tua throw the ball as little as possible....

LOL jk