Something to think about regarding Daunte

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[DolfanISS]

AHHH Yes I agree.

 

[WISfinfan13]

He Must Have Been Drunk

 

[fins in tally]

Im not going to lie, I was one of those fans who thought that signing Brees might have been the better move to make in the off-season. When we decided to pass and pull off the trade for Culpepper instead i was a little weary, one of my buddies is a packers fan and had to face Daunte twice a year during his time with the vikings...he warned me not to get too excited because Culpepper is a turnover machine and manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory quite often. He gave me the typical small hands and nothing without Moss criticism and it only worried me more.

With all this said, my opinion was changed one day while listening to Chris Carter talk about Daunte on Sirius Sattelite radios NFL station. Carter went on for five minutes about how Daunte was going to be a perfect fit for the fins, but the strange thing was that Carter believed this would not happen immediately...he believed that Culpepper would benefit in some strange way from not being able to rely on his legs and therefore be forced to read defenses better and make use of his cannon of an arm. I thought it was the most insightful commentary i had heard about the move at the time and i still do today. Coming from someone with first hand experience as to Daunte's talent and character made it all the more relevant.

Through the first few weeks there has obviously been lots of bad and some good. The small hands comments made by my buddy echoed through my head as i watched the first few drives against Buffalo, and i was quickly reminded of the warning my friend gave me about Daunte's tendancy to throw the drive killing interceptions both in the Pittsburgh game and before the half against Buffalo. However, i have noticed other things as well...Daunte seems to be trying to make an effort to read the defense a little more, granted this may be resulting in him holding on to the ball a little longer than he should now, but the dumb throws have been absent the past two weeks. He also seem to be relying alot less on his legs (although this is rough considering the o-line situation). He scrambled a few times last week but the key is what he did after scrambling...kept his eyes downfield and hit Mcmichael or Welker. Lets keep our eyes open and see if Culpepper continues to change his game a little as it apears he might have these last two weeks...regardless of which horse you have in this quarteback debate thats been going on, its hard to argue against the fact that IF (for all you pessimists that is an IF) Culpepper can continue to improve at reading the D and use his legs to make plays downfield instead of taking off he has the physical tools to be successful in this offense.

 

[fins in tally]

Im not going to lie, I was one of those fans who thought that signing Brees might have been the better move to make in the off-season. When we decided to pass and pull off the trade for Culpepper instead i was a little weary, one of my buddies is a packers fan and had to face Daunte twice a year during his time with the vikings...he warned me not to get too excited because Culpepper is a turnover machine and manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory quite often. He gave me the typical small hands and nothing without Moss criticism and it only worried me more.

With all this said, my opinion was changed one day while listening to Chris Carter talk about Daunte on Sirius Sattelite radios NFL station. Carter went on for five minutes about how Daunte was going to be a perfect fit for the fins, but the strange thing was that Carter believed this would not happen immediately...he believed that Culpepper would benefit in some strange way from not being able to rely on his legs and therefore be forced to read defenses better and make use of his cannon of an arm. I thought it was the most insightful commentary i had heard about the move at the time and i still do today. Coming from someone with first hand experience as to Daunte's talent and character made it all the more relevant.

Through the first few weeks there has obviously been lots of bad and some good. The small hands comments made by my buddy echoed through my head as i watched the first few drives against Buffalo, and i was quickly reminded of the warning my friend gave me about Daunte's tendancy to throw the drive killing interceptions both in the Pittsburgh game and before the half against Buffalo. However, i have noticed other things as well...Daunte seems to be trying to make an effort to read the defense a little more, granted this may be resulting in him holding on to the ball a little longer than he should now, but the dumb throws have been absent the past two weeks. He also seem to be relying alot less on his legs (although this is rough considering the o-line situation). He scrambled a few times last week but the key is what he did after scrambling...kept his eyes downfield and hit Mcmichael or Welker. Lets keep our eyes open and see if Culpepper continues to change his game a little as it apears he might have these last two weeks...regardless of which horse you have in this quarteback debate thats been going on, its hard to argue against the fact that IF (for all you pessimists that is an IF) Culpepper can continue to improve at reading the D and use his legs to make plays downfield instead of taking off he has the physical tools to be successful in this offense.

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sorry about that...new to the board, messed up on that first one

 

[Phanatical]

Im not going to lie, I was one of those fans who thought that signing Brees might have been the better move to make in the off-season. When we decided to pass and pull off the trade for Culpepper instead i was a little weary, one of my buddies is a packers fan and had to face Daunte twice a year during his time with the vikings...he warned me not to get too excited because Culpepper is a turnover machine and manages to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory quite often. He gave me the typical small hands and nothing without Moss criticism and it only worried me more.

With all this said, my opinion was changed one day while listening to Chris Carter talk about Daunte on Sirius Sattelite radios NFL station. Carter went on for five minutes about how Daunte was going to be a perfect fit for the fins, but the strange thing was that Carter believed this would not happen immediately...he believed that Culpepper would benefit in some strange way from not being able to rely on his legs and therefore be forced to read defenses better and make use of his cannon of an arm. I thought it was the most insightful commentary i had heard about the move at the time and i still do today. Coming from someone with first hand experience as to Daunte's talent and character made it all the more relevant.

Through the first few weeks there has obviously been lots of bad and some good. The small hands comments made by my buddy echoed through my head as i watched the first few drives against Buffalo, and i was quickly reminded of the warning my friend gave me about Daunte's tendancy to throw the drive killing interceptions both in the Pittsburgh game and before the half against Buffalo. However, i have noticed other things as well...Daunte seems to be trying to make an effort to read the defense a little more, granted this may be resulting in him holding on to the ball a little longer than he should now, but the dumb throws have been absent the past two weeks. He also seem to be relying alot less on his legs (although this is rough considering the o-line situation). He scrambled a few times last week but the key is what he did after scrambling...kept his eyes downfield and hit Mcmichael or Welker. Lets keep our eyes open and see if Culpepper continues to change his game a little as it apears he might have these last two weeks...regardless of which horse you have in this quarteback debate thats been going on, its hard to argue against the fact that IF (for all you pessimists that is an IF) Culpepper can continue to improve at reading the D and use his legs to make plays downfield instead of taking off he has the physical tools to be successful in this offense.
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I have been one of those calling for Culpepper to be replaced. That is pretty good analysis and insight of Culpepper. I still don't think he can become a better pocket passer but I hope that I am wrong and everyone is laughing at me in 4 more weeks.

 

[trayphin]

That is a good thought........one can only hope that now that he can't just run out of trouble, he will learn how be a pure pocket passer. I dunno, but I'll take any shred of hope that I can grasp right now.

 

[lazareth]

ok, fine...i'll say it:

nice post

 

[Trucanes99]

Good post. It reminds me of last year when we were 3-7 and everyone was crying for cleo lemon or sage rosenfels. Saban stuck to his guns and we ended up gelling as a team to win the final 6 games. I think we need to give Daunte some time. I've noticed that he has been forced to "eat" the football and take a sack numerous times because he doesnt want to make a mistake throw.

 

[fins in tally]

That is a good thought........one can only hope that now that he can't just run out of trouble, he will learn how be a pure pocket passer. I dunno, but I'll take any shred of hope that I can grasp right now.

you can only hope man...it seems to be a little easier to talk about the positives than the negatives. If i wanted to see my team get bashed daily i would watch the "experts" on ESPN who so quickly had them being a contender after the Culpepper trade and now have them winning three games all year. I'm not saying not to acknowledge all the negative things that have come partially from the play of Daunte, im just saying lets look at what he has done and try to see if he can build on it...you cant argue against the fact that the man has a rocket for an arm and he can be very accurate, although thats not all you need in this league, its a start. So lets hope that he improves in some of the other areas (reding the D, making smart choices) and can win us some games while doing so.

 

[Finfan80]

I believe Daunte has gradually improved over the season. He has not thrown bad INTs (except Buffalo), and he has not fumbled when sacked. He looks like he is getting better at hitting open guys downfield
That being said, watching the Houston game I really do think our play calling is lacking. Maybe one of the reasons Daunte is holding the ball is that he can't find the open guy -to me, it rarely seemed like we had receivers or a tight end/RB in a mismatch

 

[Phanatical]

Good post. It reminds me of last year when we were 3-7 and everyone was crying for cleo lemon or sage rosenfels. Saban stuck to his guns and we ended up gelling as a team to win the final 6 games. I think we need to give Daunte some time. I've noticed that he has been forced to "eat" the football and take a sack numerous times because he doesnt want to make a mistake throw.

Cleo wasn't on the team last year, but I get your point. (Oops, yes he was at the end of the year, ** sigh**) Anyway, I don't see the same thing (six game winning streak) happening this year though. This team is not gonna win six straight, guaranteed.

 

[Natbonkilz]

Cleo wasn't on the team last year, but I get your point. I don't see the same thing happening this year though. This team is not gonna win six straight, guaranteed.

I thought we got Cleo for AJ at some point last year??:confused:

 

[Phanatical]

I believe Daunte has gradually improved over the season. He has not thrown bad INTs (except Buffalo), and he has not fumbled when sacked. He looks like he is getting better at hitting open guys downfield
That being said, watching the Houston game I really do think our play calling is lacking. Maybe one of the reasons Daunte is holding the ball is that he can't find the open guy -to me, it rarely seemed like we had receivers or a tight end/RB in a mismatch

That is E X A C T L Y one of the many problems with Daunte. When a team blitzes there is going to be an open man somewhere. Daunte isn't finding the open man and making the defense pay for blitzing.