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Source: Dolphins will not fire Sparano during bye week

ckparrothead said:
The most important thing Stephen Ross can do is send a message.

That message doesn't need to go out to the Miami players. Those players are going to get that message in the form of pink slips, eventually. This season is DONE. Don't try and paper over huge gaping chasms with a few cheap wins built of drastic moves meant to get a meaningless 'rise' out of the players. You WANT to know which players play week in and week out for pride, rather than a pay check. It's important to determine those guys.

No, the message Stephen Ross needs to send is to PROSPECTIVE Head Coaches and PROSPECTIVE General Managers, guys who might be thinking of tossing their names in the ring to try and take over this team. Stephen Ross has to send a message of INTEGRITY to those people. He has to send them a message that says, "If I say I'm giving you another chance, I'm giving you another chance. I am not a fickle owner."

If he fires Tony Sparano after only 4 games of the 2011 season, after giving him a contract extension during the off season, what message does that send to guys that you want to come to Miami and be excited about coming here? What message does it send to the likes of Bill Cowher, Jeff Fisher or Jon Gruden?

Stephen Ross already ****ed up once. He stuck his toe in the water on the Harbaugh thing where he should have gone full speed ahead. Either full speed ahead retaining Tony Sparano, or full speed ahead firing him and making Jim Harbaugh an offer he couldn't refuse. He didn't do that. My advice to him now would be NOT to compound that mistake by continuing to build your reputation as a fickle, feckless owner. Be CALM and CONFIDENT. Make good decisions.
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That's a really good point. I agree completely.

But for me the issue right now isn't the coach. By that I mean: of course Sparano is a poor coach who needs to be replaced. But I'm looking for an entirely new organizational structure. Simply replacing Sparano with some well thought of hotshot isn't going to get things done anymore than keeping Mueller and hiring Cam Cameron did. Ireland and the whole personnel staff -- well, at least the pro personnel staff, we have some good scouts on the college scouting side -- need to go.

For now all the stories are that Ross likes Ireland and wants to keep him. That needs to change before we can all feel at all well about things getting better around here. You've brought up Russ Ball as a possibility and I think he brings a really good resume. If it's me you bring him in and then you let him hire the next Mike Smith or Jim Schwartz. Bringing in Gruden or Fisher or Cowher first would be a mistake, imo. The Parcells experiment has clearly failed but I still think that's the right blueprint for how to build a franchise.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Each notch that gets ticked up in the L column is one less bit of shielding that Jeff Ireland can hide behind.

We can have conversations at 0-3 and 0-4 about being fearful of Jeff Ireland being allowed to keep his front office in tact...that we're not going to have when we get to 0-9 or 1-11, etc. As Stephen Ross comes to see just what a piece of sh-t this team is, he's going to be less inclined to keep in place the organizational structure that he inherited and that wasn't put into place under his watch but rather under the watch of his predecessor who was just as much of a celebrity whore and feckless owner as he is, if not more so. Don't get me wrong, Huizenga was well-meaning, but he had zero clue on how to set up a winning team.
 
ckparrothead said:
I've said this before and I'll say it again. Each notch that gets ticked up in the L column is one less bit of shielding that Jeff Ireland can hide behind.

We can have conversations at 0-3 and 0-4 about being fearful of Jeff Ireland being allowed to keep his front office in tact...that we're not going to have when we get to 0-9 or 1-11, etc. As Stephen Ross comes to see just what a piece of sh-t this team is, he's going to be less inclined to keep in place the organizational structure that he inherited and that wasn't put into place under his watch but rather under the watch of his predecessor who was just as much of a celebrity whore and feckless owner as he is, if not more so. Don't get me wrong, Huizenga was well-meaning, but he had zero clue on how to set up a winning team.
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Except that Ross seems to believe that this is a talented team at it's core and he might end up telling himself that we played poorly because we were poorly coached and that part of the reason the team didn't play for Sparano was his own fault for dangling him in the wind.

Maybe he won't believe that anymore if we get to 0-9, I don't know. I'm certainly not as sure about it as you are, especially since the guy who Ross is going to be leaning on for perspective in Carl Peterson gave Jeff Ireland his first job as a scout and would probably be inclined to shift the blame away from ol' Irish. I remember a story last year where Ross had apparently called people around the league to get opinions on Ireland and came away with the notion that he was considered a top up and coming talent evaluator and that there was really no one out there he could hire would have as sterling a reputation as a genius in waiting. I forget the exact language and it would be a hard story to search for but apparently Ross has already worked over this ground a little and by every report his reputation with Ireland is not just solid but good.

Ross wants a winner and he wants one quick. He might delay firing Sparano for any number of reasons but changing the culture and starting over is tough and takes commitment to a long term plan. I can see him thinking that there are talented players on this team and Ireland is the guy who brought them here so what we really need is a QB and a coach to coach them and that's it. And then bam, we're back to the Cam Cameron thing again.
 
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rev kev said:
TS has a pretty good record vs. the Jests
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Good for him. National TV again. Just watch all hell break loose after this one! Normally we would be talking about the importance of a tie breaker, but this year, we will be lucky if it isn't the worst ever after this game. Ryan knows this game is not just a win but a finishing off of Miami leaving them in complete meltdown.
 
Give Sparano the entire season, he's doing a great job sucking for Luck.
 
I get the feeling Jim Harbaugh was just using us to get San Fran to up the money they were offering. I don't think he ever wanted to leave the area. Keep in mind Stanford is only about 30 miles or so from San Fran.
 
DeathStar said:
Excellent.

THis guy gives us the best chance to lose games.

Good move.

THis season is already over guys. Changing coaches won't change the end result of a failure.
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Really at this point what good does it do to fire Tony?

It's not like Nolan or Dabol are head coach worthy?

Who is going to be the interim...Let Tony finish this one out.
 
Let the loser finish the season! They made their bed lie in it!
 
Hey whenever it is that Tony does get pink-slipped, fortunately he can fall back on viable options which might better utilize his strengths. So don't feel badly for him.



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Vaark said:
Hey whenever it is that Tony does get pink-slipped, fortunately he can fall back on viable options which might better utilize his strengths. So don't feel badly for him.



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Tony would have had a pink username two weeks ago if he were a Finheaven memeber! ha!
 
You know, there might be some shiftiness on the part of Ross going on here. Since the Harbaurgh(?) hiring fell through, Ross could turn around and sack Sparano and state that he is not living up to his contract extension that was giving to him at the beginning of the season. Just a theory. That and maybe Sparano pulls a Wanny and resigns half way through the season. Never know.
 
Tunaphish429 said:
Really at this point what good does it do to fire Tony?

It's not like Nolan or Dabol are head coach worthy?

Who is going to be the interim...Let Tony finish this one out.
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Thats not the point. I understand and know that firing Sparano and promoting Nolan isn't gonna make this team a contender all of a sudden. But I'm really sick and tired of seeing him on the sidelines clapping away at futility. He should've been fired after last year and should be canned this week.
 
Vaark said:
Hey whenever it is that Tony does get pink-slipped, fortunately he can fall back on viable options which might better utilize his strengths. So don't feel badly for him.



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Lol I can just see Sparano fist pumping roll back pricing!
 
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