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1. Patriots
Tom Brady already had the rings, and now he has the stats (including an NFL-record 50 TD passes). No one is better. Rookie Kevin O'Connell could eventually replace Matt Cassel as the No. 2, but not this year.

2. Colts
With his remarkable accuracy and complete mental command of the game, Peyton Manning is right there with Brady--and he has never missed a start. Jim Sorgi has been adequate in his rare opportunities to play.

3. Steelers
Ben Roethlisberger took more control of the offense last season, calling all the protection changes and audibles. Veteran backup Charlie Batch can make big plays. Rookie Dennis Dixon is the likely No. 3.

4. Bengals
Carson Palmer's combination of accuracy, arm strength, field vision and leadership makes him an elite player. He must improve his ball security. Backup Ryan Fitzpatrick is tough and knows how to avoid pressure.

5. Chargers
At the end of last year , Philip Rivers was increasingly productive and limited his mistakes. After ACL surgery in January, he should be completely ready for training camp. Billy Volek is a proven backup.

6. Browns
Derek Anderson has a quick release but must improve his completion percentage and reduce his untimely interceptions. Brady Quinn has rare leadership skills and con_ dence and could step in if Anderson slips.

7. Broncos
Jay Cutler has regained the nearly 30 pounds he lost with the onset of diabetes, which left him sapped last season. He must learn to check down more and take fewer chances. Patrick Ramsey is a capable backup.

8. Jaguars
David Garrard has excellent mobility and a nice touch on short and midrange passes. He is working to improve on deep throws. Both backups, Cleo Lemon and Todd Bouman, have NFL starting experience.

9. Texans
Matt Schaub lacks mobility but can get out of jams when necessary and has a strong arm. His inability to avoid hits and injuries is a concern. Sage Rosenfels went 4-1 last season, which means a controversy will be swirling if Schaub gets off to a slow start.

10. Titans
Vince Young took a step back last year, so the Titans are trying to fix his footwork, among other things. Young has worked hard and is making progress. Kerry Collins is a capable, experienced backup.

11. Jets
Chad Pennington is a savvy veteran who generally manages games well. Kellen Clemens has a stronger arm, but his pocket presence is shaky. Their battle for the starting job will spill into the preseason.

12. Bills
Trent Edwards was a revelation as a rookie. He gets rid of the ball quickly and accurately but must improve his ability to read defenses. J.P. Losman's decision making is a big reason he lost the starting job to Edwards.

13. Raiders
Strong-armed JaMarcus Russell is still struggling to make up for lost time after a long holdout last summer. His talent far exceeds that of experienced backups Andrew Walter and Marques Tuiasosopo.

14. Ravens
Starter Kyle Boller makes poor decisions, especially in the red zone, and has never established himself as a leader. Like Boller, backup Troy Smith has accuracy issues. Rookie Joe Flacco is a year away.

15. Chiefs
Brodie Croyle is winless in six starts, but his growth has been slowed by a spotty running game and weak blocking. If he falters, the team could turn to the inexperienced Tyler Thigpen or veteran Damon Huard.

16. Dolphins
The competition for the starting job between John Beck and Josh McCown is wide-open. Beck is the more accurate passer, but McCown is bigger, stronger and more experienced. Rookie Chad Henne is the No. 3.



I would have the Bengals ahead of the Steelers

The Jaguars ahead of the Broncos

The Phins ahead of the Ravens

And the Bills ahead of the Titans and NY
 
Derek Anderson is terrible. Having watched him play I am convinced that if Marv Levy was QB for Cleveland they would have won 9 games. Throwing the ball up to Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow makes any mediocre QB look good.
 
Trent Edwards has done nothing to prove he's better then anyone else. Heck Beck played 7 less games and his stats and Edwards stats were basically the same.
 
Trent Edwards has done nothing to prove he's better then anyone else. Heck Beck played 7 less games and his stats and Edwards stats were basically the same.

Wow...Just wow that was one of the more biased posts I have read in a while
 
Miami hasn't the right to be anything other than last place. That is what Beck showed last year, and McCown isn't thought of as a real up-grade. One of them is going to have to prove it on the field first...
 
Pretty good ranking though I think Cutler is over-rated by alot of these "experts"

Also how is the Jets not lower. Sorry Pennington is done, and Clemens showed me he is more like Losman than a consistant QB.

IMO Jags should be up before the Browns, Anderson is nothing special and are getting props for Quinn, How many NFL games has he played.

Fins are at the bottom by defult because no one knows who the starter will be, but IMO their Crew (Beck, Henne, and McCown) Could move them ahead of the Cheifs, maybe the Ravens and Raiders.

My rankings look like this

Pats - get the edge because I like their depth better
Colts
Bengals
Steelers
Chargers
Jags
Browns
Texans
Broncos
Titans
Bills
Jets
Fins
Raiders
Ravens
Chiefs
 
Beck outperformed Russell last year, and if Henne or McCown outperform Beck, then they've also more than outdid Russell. I don't know how Oakland can be anything other than rock-bottom.... especially now that the Fins have their last year's most successful QB on their roster.

Also think the Jets should be lower since there aren't many MLB teams that win championships hitting only singles. And IMO, I'd take Garrard in a heartbeat over Anderson.

 
Beck outperformed Russell last year, and if Henne or McCown outperform Beck, then they've also more than outdid Russell. I don't know how Oakland can be anything other than rock-bottom.... especially now that the Fins have their last year's most successful QB on their roster.

Also think the Jets should be lower since there aren't many MLB teams that win championships hitting only singles. And IMO, I'd take Garrard in a heartbeat over Anderson.


You can't say Beck out preformed anybody when he won zero games and fumbled the ball constantly. Sure Beck may have the ability to out preform a lot of QB's, but he isn't there yet...
 
Trent Edwards has done nothing to prove he's better then anyone else. Heck Beck played 7 less games and his stats and Edwards stats were basically the same.


Only in your view.


Edwards 56 percent 7 tds 8 int 70 qb rating no fumbles lost

Beck 1 td 3 int 56 percent 5 fumbles lost with a 62 qb rating

So yea if he threw more ints, less tds and fumbled a lot more they had the same exact year.

Also Beck played in 5 less games than Edwards. Double Beck's stats and
2 tds 6 int and 10 fumbles lost would look no more impressive.

Some people want to give no credit to Edwards. He was a third round pick that outplayed every Buffalo Qb in preseason, beat out Craig Nall as backup and later in the year was actually chosen to be the qb over JP Losman. He initially became the starter in the third game of the year due to an injury to Losman versus the Patriots in New England. He was the only rookie Qb that actually went out and took thier teams starting qb job last year. Now some may say that JP Losman and Craig Nall suck but so do Trent Green and Cleo Lemon. It does not diminish our qb to actually admit that another qb played better as a rookie. Buffalo has no doubt who thier starting qb is, which is alot more than I can say for us at this point.

People also like to somehow discount Edwards stats because he had a great game versus us. If you do that why dont you discount Beck's game versus Bengals for Beck then he had no td passes.
 
Brady is over-rated. You get him out of the pocket and he's very average. He gets the numbers he does b/c of the talent around him.
 
Brady is over-rated. You get him out of the pocket and he's very average. He gets the numbers he does b/c of the talent around him.


Prior to Moss he was not exactly surrounded by pro bowl skill position players. Brady is a stud no matter how much I hate him.
 
Derek Anderson is terrible. Having watched him play I am convinced that if Marv Levy was QB for Cleveland they would have won 9 games. Throwing the ball up to Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow makes any mediocre QB look good.


Just another example of people not giving proper credit to a qb. Anderson was not a stud until last year. Carson palmer had much better weapons and still was not any better than Anderson last year.
 
Brady is over-rated. You get him out of the pocket and he's very average. He gets the numbers he does b/c of the talent around him.
Can you guys stop being in denial? As much as we hate the guy, Tom Brady is the best quarterback in the league. As a matter of fact, the Top 4 on their list is a no brainer, except I would switch Carson and Roethlisberger. Everything outside the top 4 is a toss up.
 
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