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I've already heard and read the opinions from the talking heads and posters about how Tua played. I think we can all agree that he left a few plays on the field that we would like to see better decisions on. However, what some posters are missing is where Tua would be if those items weren't made into the biggest stories of the game.

Here are the true stats that matter for the 1st game with a new HC and a new offense being on the field for the 1st time together. If the armchair evaluators on this forum think this is poor QB play I can't respect your football opinion anymore as you have no idea what goes on around the rest of the league.

1. The Dolphins are 1-0 and technically lead the division with the win coming over the Cheater's. You play to win the game, period. When the Fins win the game everything else is second.
2. 69.7% completion on attempts, good for 9th in the NFL
3. 270 Yards passing, good for 12th in the NFL.
4. 8.2 yards/attempt, good for 6th and tied with Herbert.
5. 1 TD, tied with multiple others for 17th place (The only mediocre stat of all of them)
6. Zero interceptions, tied for the lead
7. QBR of 78.2, tied for 5th in the NFL
8. Passer rating of 104.4, 9th in the NFL.

Those aren't the numbers of a QB who a HC is looking to replace after 24 starts. Those are the numbers of a QB that a HC can groom into being one of the top signal callers in the NFL. Sorry, but those of you who want Tua replaced due to his "play" aren't going to get your wish anytime soon.
 
Yup, yesterday appears to be his floor.

If that's his floor, the Phins are going to have a great year.

If Tua has those rankings every week all year, Miami is in for a magical year.

Funny to me how yesterday was a struggle for Tua, yet stats say otherwise.

But the eyeballs man, the eyeballs.

There's a reason an eye witness, a lot of times, is an unreliable witness lol
 
GRYPHONK said:
Yup, yesterday appears to be his floor.

If that's his floor, the Phins are going to have a great year.

If Tua has those rankings every week all year, Miami is in for a magical year.

Funny to me how yesterday was a struggle for Tua, yet stats say otherwise.

But the eyeballs man, the eyeballs.

There's a reason an eye witness, a lot of times, is an unreliable witness lol
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My father-in-law used to work as a lawyer for the Innocence Project. I actually went to a dinner and got to eat with John Grisham where he was promoting his book "The Innocent Man".

A few days before the dinner my father-in-law had all of us in the family take one of those "eye witness tests". We failed it miserably. John actually used the test in his keynote speech that night. It was an eye opener to say the least.
 
He left a couple of plays on the field, but show me a quarterback who doesn't.

I'm confident they were just scratching the surface of what this offense can be. A little rusty, but I don't think they needed to show much the way the defense was dominating.
 
mnphinfan said:
I've already heard and read the opinions from the talking heads and posters about how Tua played. I think we can all agree that he left a few plays on the field that we would like to see better decisions on. However, what some posters are missing is where Tua would be if those items weren't made into the biggest stories of the game.

Here are the true stats that matter for the 1st game with a new HC and a new offense being on the field for the 1st time together. If the armchair evaluators on this forum think this is poor QB play I can't respect your football opinion anymore as you have no idea what goes on around the rest of the league.

1. The Dolphins are 1-0 and technically lead the division with the win coming over the Cheater's. You play to win the game, period. When the Fins win the game everything else is second.
2. 69.7% completion on attempts, good for 9th in the NFL
3. 270 Yards passing, good for 12th in the NFL.
4. 8.2 yards/attempt, good for 6th and tied with Herbert.
5. 1 TD, tied with multiple others for 17th place (The only mediocre stat of all of them)
6. Zero interceptions, tied for the lead
7. QBR of 78.2, tied for 5th in the NFL
8. Passer rating of 104.4, 9th in the NFL.

Those aren't the numbers of a QB who a HC is looking to replace after 24 starts. Those are the numbers of a QB that a HC can groom into being one of the top signal callers in the NFL. Sorry, but those of you who want Tua replaced due to his "play" aren't going to get your wish anytime soon.
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I love Tua, but can we wait until we play about 3 or 4 games before we start throwing out stats? If he has a 104 QB rating after the 3rd or 4th game, I'll start to get excited. Especially, against the teams coming up the next three weeks.
 
mnphinfan said:
My father-in-law used to work as a lawyer for the Innocence Project. I actually went to a dinner and got to eat with John Grisham where he was promoting his book "The Innocent Man".

A few days before the dinner my father-in-law had all of us in the family take one of those "eye witness tests". We failed it miserably. John actually used the test in his keynote speech that night. It was an eye opener to say the least.
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Yeah it's amazing how our eyes deceive us.

We see what we wanna see etc.

For instance, some posters still don't think that first pass was tipped.

We all look at the same footage and come put with diferrent opinions.

This is why the "eyeball" test means nothing to me haha.

But that's a cool story
I have had a career in investigations. Let's just say my class failed miserably the initial eye witness or eyeball test as well lol
 
mnphinfan said:
I've already heard and read the opinions from the talking heads and posters about how Tua played. I think we can all agree that he left a few plays on the field that we would like to see better decisions on. However, what some posters are missing is where Tua would be if those items weren't made into the biggest stories of the game.

Here are the true stats that matter for the 1st game with a new HC and a new offense being on the field for the 1st time together. If the armchair evaluators on this forum think this is poor QB play I can't respect your football opinion anymore as you have no idea what goes on around the rest of the league.

1. The Dolphins are 1-0 and technically lead the division with the win coming over the Cheater's. You play to win the game, period. When the Fins win the game everything else is second.
2. 69.7% completion on attempts, good for 9th in the NFL
3. 270 Yards passing, good for 12th in the NFL.
4. 8.2 yards/attempt, good for 6th and tied with Herbert.
5. 1 TD, tied with multiple others for 17th place (The only mediocre stat of all of them)
6. Zero interceptions, tied for the lead
7. QBR of 78.2, tied for 5th in the NFL
8. Passer rating of 104.4, 9th in the NFL.

Those aren't the numbers of a QB who a HC is looking to replace after 24 starts. Those are the numbers of a QB that a HC can groom into being one of the top signal callers in the NFL. Sorry, but those of you who want Tua replaced due to his "play" aren't going to get your wish anytime soon.
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Agreed!!!

Dont forget, we played a team with the #2 ranked defense last year AND coached by Belichek. Bill can make HOF QB's look like rookies. We also had pretty bad field position for most of our drives (6 of 8 drives within our own 30yrd line).
 
mnphinfan said:
I've already heard and read the opinions from the talking heads and posters about how Tua played. I think we can all agree that he left a few plays on the field that we would like to see better decisions on. However, what some posters are missing is where Tua would be if those items weren't made into the biggest stories of the game.

Here are the true stats that matter for the 1st game with a new HC and a new offense being on the field for the 1st time together. If the armchair evaluators on this forum think this is poor QB play I can't respect your football opinion anymore as you have no idea what goes on around the rest of the league.

1. The Dolphins are 1-0 and technically lead the division with the win coming over the Cheater's. You play to win the game, period. When the Fins win the game everything else is second.
2. 69.7% completion on attempts, good for 9th in the NFL
3. 270 Yards passing, good for 12th in the NFL.
4. 8.2 yards/attempt, good for 6th and tied with Herbert.
5. 1 TD, tied with multiple others for 17th place (The only mediocre stat of all of them)
6. Zero interceptions, tied for the lead
7. QBR of 78.2, tied for 5th in the NFL
8. Passer rating of 104.4, 9th in the NFL.

Those aren't the numbers of a QB who a HC is looking to replace after 24 starts. Those are the numbers of a QB that a HC can groom into being one of the top signal callers in the NFL. Sorry, but those of you who want Tua replaced due to his "play" aren't going to get your wish anytime soon.
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So just to clarify are these the facts that are absolute or the “facts” that are open to interpretation

Sarcastic Kenny Smith GIF by SHOWTIME Sports
 
GRYPHONK said:
Yup, yesterday appears to be his floor.

If that's his floor, the Phins are going to have a great year.

If Tua has those rankings every week all year, Miami is in for a magical year.

Funny to me how yesterday was a struggle for Tua, yet stats say otherwise.

But the eyeballs man, the eyeballs.

There's a reason an eye witness, a lot of times, is an unreliable witness lol
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Nailed it.
 
Jelly Bean said:
So just to clarify are these the facts that are absolute or the “facts” that are open to interpretation

Sarcastic Kenny Smith GIF by SHOWTIME Sports
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Real facts, except when viewed through an overly biased, unrealistic lens…particularly when said evaluation comes from someone who has stated fervently that Tua will never be a top 10 QB…guns must be stuck to, and hills must be died upon.
 
It's not just about statistics. You have to also look at plays left on the field, that can become detrimental to a teams chance at winning. Luckily we played Mac Jones and they didn't bite us in the butt. Tua still makes a handful of bad/boneheaded plays each game and continues to miss throws/decisions that could really change the game.

Maybe he eventually can clean those up and start making plays that are there and take that step in his development. At the moment he is an average QB in the NFL at best with his ceiling being something like Alex Smith, where he is an elite game manager. I don't see him ever breaking into the Mahomes, Allen, Herbert category.
 
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Jelly Bean said:
So just to clarify are these the facts that are absolute or the “facts” that are open to interpretation

Sarcastic Kenny Smith GIF by SHOWTIME Sports
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Apparently, he is so inarticulate he tries to use is hands to emphasize what he doesn't know how to say otherwise. Why does he think his hands are more "articulate" than his mouth? Aren't they attached to the same brain? - LOL
 
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