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If you look at the highlights for the Packers vs Lions game where Matt Flynn scored 6 touchdowns, you will notice that every touchdown was scored because of yards created after the catch, this means that Green Bay's skill position players are very good... and that does not mean that Matt Flynn deserves a huge payday. The dolphins need to address the QB position but Matt Moore should be the leading candidate to start camp as the starter and we should look to draft a QB and bring in a free agent to compete in camp and during the season, in case of injuries, but not one that would want us to destroy most of our cap space before he has even truly showed us anything.
 
If you look at the highlights for the Packers vs Lions game where Matt Flynn scored 6 touchdowns, you will notice that every touchdown was scored because of yards created after the catch, this means that Green Bay's skill position players are very good... and that does not mean that Matt Flynn deserves a huge payday. The dolphins need to address the QB position but Matt Moore should be the leading candidate to start camp as the starter and we should look to draft a QB and bring in a free agent to compete in camp and during the season, in case of injuries, but not one that would want us to destroy most of our cap space before he has even truly showed us anything.
If you look at the ENTIRE GAME you will see him do things Matt Moore is incapable of.
 
Wait, so Flynn found receivers who were in a good position to make a play and got the ball to them? What a scrub.
 
Last I checked Brandon Marshall wasn't anything to sneeze at as a skill position player, Devone Bess is pretty good, and, there is this Reggie Bush guy we have, so, i'm thinking our cupboard isn't bare when it comes to skill position players that Flynn could get the ball to and allow them to make plays.
 
I believe 3 of the 6 TDs were screen plays. 1 to ryan grant, and 1 to jordy nelson I remember specifically. I remember watching that game and he made some good decisions, but his arm is barely stronger than Pennington's.
 
Again,he at least made the right decisions to throw the ball to the right person who in turn did there job and ran after the catch ! Making the right decisions is something Miami QB's havent done in a long time on a consistent manner,so I count all 6 by Flynn because he hit the right person,made the right decision.

I dont mind drafting a rookie QB if he truly is worth it,but I believe Flynn can be a good QB for us to go after also if we can land him. Im all in for Flynn !!!!!!!!
 
The thing that i am scared about picking up a backup and giving him a bunch of money is that the last time we did that we took Aj Feeley. Lets not forget how that all went down
 
So if you take away his biggest accomplishment he looks worse?
 
Well, I mean, there's logic (and irrationality) to both sides of the debate.

On the one side, Detroit was actually a pretty decent D throughout the year. 4th overall, actually, according to Football Outsiders. They weren't elite by any means - it was a down year for defenses across the board - but they were amongst the best *this season*. And, regardless of talent available on Green Bay, Flynn *did* actually throw for 6 TDs and 400+ yards. It's a bit like the '72 Dolphins debate: they faced lesser competition, sure. But others have faced quite a few cupcakes too, and they haven't gone undefeated. So it's an accomplishment you simply can't take away. And, as others have said, you have to make smart decisions to have those numbers - while luck certainly plays a part, you can't chalk it up *all* to luck. There's talent there.

However, one-(or two-)game flukes do exist. There's a plethora of them; to be recent, one only needs to look to Denver. Even San Francisco: Alex Smith looked world-class against NO, but very average against NY. It's even an argument against everyone's favorite whipping boy, Chad Henne: "sure, he *can* have great games. He's just incapable of sustaining that performance." And Flynn's circumstances are about as perfect as they can get: groomed for four years behind one of the very best QBs in the game, within the same system all along, playing with one of the best receiving groups of the NFL.

The fact of the matter is, just like with any other player, we simply don't know. Does he have the potential to be great? Sure, but most everyone that even makes it to the NFL does. Has he proven enough to be a "known commodity"? Of course not. If he starts for a few years and continues to play at a high level, then yeah. Even then, though... there's a Mr. Carson Palmer on line one. Should his "pedigree" prevent a team from signing him? Nope. He wouldn't be the first or last player to slip to the cracks.

But the main question: should the Dolphins sign him to what, by all signs, should be a monster contract? Or as the OP puts it, should we "destroy our cap" by signing him and risk him busting? Well, that's why they play the games.

My personal opinion: Philbin will give his judgement on the kid. It will bear the most weight, as it should. Still, the team should protect itself (like it does with any other player) and put as much performance clauses in his contract as possible. He would have some of the same advantages he had in GB if he comes here, so it's worth it to take a shot.
 
Me thinks the OP just wants to ignore QBs period. If Matt Moore should be the leading candidate then you've obviously been ignoring him.
 
If you look at the highlights for the Packers vs Lions game where Matt Flynn scored 6 touchdowns, you will notice that every touchdown was scored because of yards created after the catch, this means that Green Bay's skill position players are very good... and that does not mean that Matt Flynn deserves a huge payday. The dolphins need to address the QB position but Matt Moore should be the leading candidate to start camp as the starter and we should look to draft a QB and bring in a free agent to compete in camp and during the season, in case of injuries, but not one that would want us to destroy most of our cap space before he has even truly showed us anything.

not every one but isnt this why green bay has a great O? This is one reason we have Philbin. He would set up the O based on what the D gives them and tells the WR whether to sit in the hole or catch on the run.

The question is not whether his balls were long and accurate because when he needed to be they were. The question is whether he executed the play called with success. That you cannot deny.
 
The thing that i am scared about picking up a backup and giving him a bunch of money is that the last time we did that we took Aj Feeley. Lets not forget how that all went down

terrible analogy. Flynn and Philbin would be on same page. Feeley was a desperation pick up from WCO that we simply didnt run. Not to mention Feeley sucked really bad.
 
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IT ABOUT TIME someone else says waht i have been saying since day one of this flynn or bust nonsense.

the packers have guys at almost every skill position who can get in the endzone at any time. and they DO!! they also have been together and in the same system for YEARS!!

we dont have that luxery as we have a couple guys who are good wr's, they are not big endzone guys.

marshall drops more td's than he catches, and outside of one year in denver with the elite qb, kyle orton :chuckle: he has been consistant with low td totals. big plays, not a lot of scoring.

people have just gone gaga over this, but i think most of it is a medicine to get them over their no andrew luck sickness. the focus is now on flynn as the team savior.

that team is loaded with probowlers and all pros on offense and we are far, far from that. and they probably wont admit it, but they are seeing him come in and get us big points and in the playoffs right off the bat. their going to be mightley dissapointed!!!

even more so when matt moore is under center come opening day. the staff knows more than anyone why that 6 td game happened and their not giving up multi pics and big cash to get him here. we need to much more. and if you think the packers are not going to franchise him and ride the huge hype wave he has created, your beyond high.

tannehill is the finz hope to pair with moore right now, if they can manipulate the draft enough to land him.
 
I believe 3 of the 6 TDs were screen plays. 1 to ryan grant, and 1 to jordy nelson I remember specifically. I remember watching that game and he made some good decisions, but his arm is barely stronger than Pennington's.
this is true. His arm did look extremelyweak in that game
 
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