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Stop mentioning the Flynn 6 TD game!!!

I just don't like a QB who isn't a threat to throw it deep. Defenses will know he can't throw it deep and they will play up accordingly.
 
This is a poor argument. He gave each of those receivers the chance to make something happen by hitting them in stride. We have enough talented skill players that he could accomplish the same thing in Miami.
 
ckparrothead said:
If the Dolphins sign Matt Flynn then I'm fine with it.

It's not Flynn that I'm buying, although I think the original poster is nuts if he thinks you need to just not look at that 6 TD performance he had against the Lions.

What I'm buying is Joe Philbin's ability to oversee and develop game plans for Matt Flynn.

Simple fact of the matter is on the two occasions when Joe Philbin was forced to head into the week knowing that Matt Flynn, not Aaron Rodgers, would be his starting quarterback, he developed game plans with plays that were DIFFERENT from the ones he used with Aaron Rodgers, and they worked, to the tune of 27 points against the 14-2 New England Patriots (who went to the playoffs) and 45 points against the 10-6 Detroit Lions (who also went to the playoffs).

You'd be a fool if you're not at least a little bit intrigued by that pairing.

Or as a personnel executive recently put it (roughly) about Flynn's success up in Green Bay, "People say it's the system. Fine, then run that system."
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CK's post is exactly what i have been preaching in the the VIP since the end of the season.

It is the QB/Coach pairing the intrigues me which is precisely why I was rooting for Philbin (once his sons death occurred I shifted there for a bit and for good cause), because if Flynn was paired with Philbin the Dolphins were already ahead in the learning curve. The coaching side knows exactly what they are getting with Flynn and the QB side knows exactly what to expect from the offense.

Forget about Manning (he isn't playing), Luck is 100% out of reach, RGIII presuming St.Louis will trade is costly and has the same side notes as Flynn at this point.

Get Flynn under contract and draft accordingly to fill the other team needs: RT, DE/LB, Safety...etc..
 
This is NFL hotwire free agent scouting report going into last season. In a way it can be looked at as "damning with faint praise." Obviously it's prior to his single game this year which happened to be impressive, but still it's only 1 additional game. :idk:

Matt Flynn, PackersScouting Report: Flynn was essentially Colt McCoy coming out of LSU: Weak arm, fairly athletic, and a “winner.” He’s started one NFL game, completing 64.9 percent of 37 attempts for 251 yards, three scores, and a pick in last year’s 31-27 Week 15 loss to New England. In that game, Flynn displayed impressive poise and accuracy. In three preseasons, Flynn has gone 83-of-135 (61.5%) for 855 yards (6.33 YPA), five touchdowns, and two interceptions. He’s got limited tools, but we suspect Flynn would be a better starter than at least a few teams have in place.

Availability: Flynn is due $555,000 in the last year of his deal. The Packers need to either sign him to an affordable extension or trade Flynn while they still can. Flynn has shown that he can keep Green Bay competitive if Aaron Rodgers misses time, so GM Ted Thompson probably prefers the former. Still, he may be hard pressed to turn down a third-round pick if offered.
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http://www.nflhotwire.com/?tag=scouting
 
That reminds me of things I read coming out of Green Bay about Aaron Rodgers around the time when Brett Favre was doing the waffle dance about staying or going.

Just saying.
 
ckparrothead said:
That reminds me of things I read coming out of Green Bay about Aaron Rodgers around the time when Brett Favre was doing the waffle dance about staying or going.

Just saying.
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where'd you read "weak arm" with "limited tools" when it comes to Rodgers?

Just askin' :idk:
 
I have seen enough of Flynn to be able to say he is a good QB, and given some more targets at WR and TE, he could develop into a great QB under Philbin. At least we know what we would have with Flynn. You cannot say the same for Tannehill or Weeden, or the other QB's that are ranked after Luck and RG3. Also, Flynn would only cost the Dolphins money, and not draft picks.
 
Vaark said:
where'd you read "weak arm" with "limited tools" when it comes to Rodgers?

Just askin' :idk:
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Not "weak arm" but certainly people have made it a point to point out that he doesn't have an elite arm or elite tools, from college to pros...until he started lighting it up production-wise. Then suddenly people stop pointing that out. Just like if Flynn started producing like mad, descriptions of his arm would go from "weak" to "good arm, can make all the throws".

I'm just not sure what there is that is revelatory about that blurb. There's nothing there that you shouldn't be able to conclude for yourself one way or another, whether you disagree or agree with them, by watching Matt Flynn's work. They don't have access to any secrets that the rest of us don't.
 
I remember a time when Tom Brady's arm was considered by the media and peanut gallery one of the weakest in the game, amongst his fellow NFL starters.

Then he started producing on historical levels and suddenly it's like, MAN that Tom Brady can throw the ball, he's got a good arm!
 
ckparrothead said:
I remember a time when Tom Brady's arm was considered by the media and peanut gallery one of the weakest in the game, amongst his fellow NFL starters.

Then he started producing on historical levels and suddenly it's like, MAN that Tom Brady can throw the ball, he's got a good arm!
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It wasn't quite that simple. Brady's worked like mad to strengthen his arm and improve his mechanics and obviously had the physical potential to throw harder than he did in college. Flynn may be able to do this, or he might already have, or he might not.

That being said your overall point is the right one. People tend to judge on skill until they see results, which then convince them of skills (or a lack of skills) after the fact. The most important thing is that arm strength and accuracy not be liabilities that allow the defense to dictate. Flynn doesn't strike me as being elite in either category but he seems to be over the "you must be this tall to ride" limit on both.
 
i'm not sure i agree that the pack ran a whole lot different gameplan with flynn against the lions than they would with rodgers...i saw an awful lot of the same looking stuff especially in the red zone and the same usage of the screen pass against the blitz etc...looked like the same thing to me

only thing i didn't see was any back shoulder throws to the wrs between the 20's...but the king of those routes and the best wr on the pack roster didn't suit up in that game...so keep in mind those 6 tds in 30 degree temps and flurries came without even having greg jennings on the field...
 
b/t there's nothing wrong with matt flynns arm...its good enough...and when he needs to he can fire one in there in tight spaces etc...

this isn't penny on his death bed arm by any means...
 
I spoke with a coach that told me that the game plan they ran with Flynn was different from what they run with Rodgers. Different play designs and concepts.
 
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