Suggestion: Trade Lamar Miller for Chad Greenway

[gfish24]

Again I just don't get when bruising and cutting your kids is ok discipline? A helpless 4 year old. This is worse than Rice hitting his wife... At least she has the ability to get help or leave. What Peterson did is not right and I am amazed how many people are looking at this as discipline. Maybe Ray Rice was just trying to discipline his wife?

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There are pics on line... Kid is bruised and cut

 

[gfish24]

let's just discipline our kids with words and hugs and ice cream.



that'll teach em.



In all seriousness I was thinking about this the other night. I would wager that when AP's son turns about 18, and is asked about this, he wouldn't be half as uptight about his discipline as the media is going to be these next 48 hours. We have local police with tanks and heavy artillery weapons, meanwhile the media salivates at the chance to crucify an NFL athlete because he spanked his son too hard. I've never seenless NFL highlights and analysis on ESPN.

Or his son will perpetuate the abuse cycle and best his own kids unless he gets help.... Statistically that is what happens

 

[KTOWNFINFAN]

I hope his career is over for what he did.

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I hope he gets a raise.

 

[MRojas4]

Again I just don't get when bruising and cutting your kids is ok discipline? A helpless 4 year old. This is worse than Rice hitting his wife... At least she has the ability to get help or leave. What Peterson did is not right and I am amazed how many people are looking at this as discipline. Maybe Ray Rice was just trying to discipline his wife?

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There are pics on line... Kid is bruised and cut

Hmm..

I got the belt as a kid.

Turned out alright.

Haven't seen the pictures but the key is to keep in mind AP used the same discipline he received as a child. Different times I know, but I guess if that is what worked for AP as a child he would think it works for his child?

I agree beating some kid to death is not discipline, but I can't be the only grown up that got the belt as a 5 yr old for stepping out of line.

Todays youth is out of control, something has to be attributed to the lack of discipline children receive. Timeouts and no ice cream only go so far for discipline.

Come to think of it, saw some 9 year old kid tell his mother to shut the f up at the grocery store the other day. Mother told her he would get no candy.

I was waiting for the belt or sandal to go flying at this kids head....sadly, I was let down.

 

[gfish24]

Smh

 

[MRojas4]

Smh

So the questions becomes if the Care Bears discipline tactics don't work whats the next step?

You timeout/no ice cream the kid to eternity but no improvement....whats the next step?

Therapy? Jack the kid up on happy drug?

 

[j-off-her-doll]

Rodger Goodell wanted to be gawd of the NFL, and he got his wish. Now that he's failing forward fast, after opening all types of boxes he's not equipped to deal with, he's probably reconsidering his gawd complex - and would appreciate a lesser part of the decision making process. Then, again, he probably lacks the self awareness to understand what he's doing to himself.

In this case, I'll wait to put out an opinion.

But LMFAO at that hack, POS, Roger Goodell. This is what you get, buddy. Have fun policing the NFL - you stupid ****.

 

[So Be]

Hmm..

I got the belt as a kid.

Turned out alright.

Haven't seen the pictures but the key is to keep in mind AP used the same discipline he received as a child. Different times I know, but I guess if that is what worked for AP as a child he would think it works for his child?

I agree beating some kid to death is not discipline, but I can't be the only grown up that got the belt as a 5 yr old for stepping out of line.

Todays youth is out of control, something has to be attributed to the lack of discipline children receive. Timeouts and no ice cream only go so far for discipline.

Come to think of it, saw some 9 year old kid tell his mother to shut the f up at the grocery store the other day. Mother told her he would get no candy.

I was waiting for the belt or sandal to go flying at this kids head....sadly, I was let down.

Oh yeah the belt, along with "Wait 'till Your Father Gets Home." I think the fear and anticipation were worse that the welts on my backside. It was never for something I did not deserve, and did NOT make the same mistake again. As you say, different times but, I cannot say that they were worse times.

NOT defending anyone who beats their kids but, discipline is different. I recall some of the same from going to Catholic school, and facing "The Ruler" with putting my hands out from the nuns. God forbid that happens in today's schools.

 

[gfish24]

So the questions becomes if the Care Bears discipline tactics don't work whats the next step?

You timeout/no ice cream the kid to eternity but no improvement....whats the next step?


Therapy? Jack the kid up on happy drug?

I investigate child abuse for a living. I remove kids from abusive situations, and in my ten years have seen some real ****ed up ****. I've done joint investigations with police on cases similar to AP case where kids have bruises and lacerations, testified in court, and removed children from their parents. If u don't work in the field it's hard to really know how much of this **** is really going on. There are many different parenting strategies that are not violent. And I don't believe any violence is effective. And I as well got the belt as a child, and have supporting loving parents. APs kid will hopefully get the help he needs so he doesn't perpetrate this type of behaviour as an adult. So maybe I'm a bit biased because of my work but I believe violence overall doesn't impact learning in a positive way, and violence where children or mothers, wives are involved only further opresses the family unit

 

[j-off-her-doll]

Speaking of the trade proposal, Greenway is washed up (or near), and Miller is finally in a role where he can be a positive contributor - as a complimentary back. I expect Miller to have more than one 50+-yard TD's. Once Moreno softens up the D, Miller's speed will actually be put to good use - especially in this scheme.

 

[MRojas4]

I investigate child abuse for a living. I remove kids from abusive situations, and in my ten years have seen some real ****ed up ****. I've done joint investigations with police on cases similar to AP case where kids have bruises and lacerations, testified in court, and removed children from their parents. If u don't work in the field it's hard to really know how much of this **** is really going on. There are many different parenting strategies that are not violent. And I don't believe any violence is effective. And I as well got the belt as a child, and have supporting loving parents. APs kid will hopefully get the help he needs so he doesn't perpetrate this type of behaviour as an adult. So maybe I'm a bit biased because of my work but I believe violence overall doesn't impact learning in a positive way, and violence where children or mothers, wives are involved only further opresses the family unit

I thank you for your work in the community.

You must see some really messed up stuff, and I 100% agree that child abuse happens more than we want to think about.

But I also do think PC police step out of line at times. (I don't know the AP case details so excluding that portion).

 

[So Be]

I investigate child abuse for a living. I remove kids from abusive situations, and in my ten years have seen some real ****ed up ****. I've done joint investigations with police on cases similar to AP case where kids have bruises and lacerations, testified in court, and removed children from their parents. If u don't work in the field it's hard to really know how much of this **** is really going on. There are many different parenting strategies that are not violent. And I don't believe any violence is effective. And I as well got the belt as a child, and have supporting loving parents. APs kid will hopefully get the help he needs so he doesn't perpetrate this type of behaviour as an adult. So maybe I'm a bit biased because of my work but I believe violence overall doesn't impact learning in a positive way, and violence where children or mothers, wives are involved only further opresses the family unit

I do agree that there are MANY children who should be taken away from abusive parents, However, there is a fine line here. For. example, you, myself, and MR all faced "The Belt." In today's day and age, would that have been considered abusive?

 

[So Be]

Speaking of the trade proposal, Greenway is washed up (or near), and Miller is finally in a role where he can be a positive contributor - as a complimentary back. I expect Miller to have more than one 50+-yard TD's. Once Moreno softens up the D, Miller's speed will actually be put to good use - especially in this scheme.

Chances of that trade happening are the same as picking the winning lotto numbers. Is Lamar Miller now the official forum replacement for Daniel Thomas for those needing to pick on a Phins player, with nothing better to do?

 

[MRojas4]

Chances of that trade happening are the same as picking the winning lotto numbers. Is Lamar Miller now the official forum replacement for Daniel Thomas for those needing to pick on a Phins player, with nothing better to do?

 

[tylerdolphin]

Of course he had bruises and lacerations. He got spanked with a switch. Bruises and lacerations heal. I suppose we can all start playing soccer in the USA and avoid bruises and lacerations for good. Ever seen a kid come off the field after a football game? He has bruises and lacerations often times. Should we ban football from all schools? It is so abusive to the children.

I got spanked with a switch MANY times as a child. In fact, I had to pick my own switch often times. If we were in the car on a trip somewhere, it was not uncommon for the car to be stopped along the road where I would have to get out and pick a switch. The end result was bruises and lacerations. There were a couple of times I can remember drops of blood trickling down onto my shoes and if I were barefoot or wearing sandals, I bet some got on the rug of the car. Big deal.

What was always worse than a switch was the old, worn, fly swatters. Those metal ends where the swatter part was attached could do some damage, especially after the swatter part became worn. Bruises and lacerations would result. I lived. I am glad my parents punished me swiftly when I exhibited behaviors that were not ones that would help me become a good man.

Jesus. This made me cringe. Thats not normal childhood discipline, WV. And I say that as someone who doesnt really have qualms with reasonable corporal punishment.