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March 10, 2008

Dolphins depth: offensive line

It has been troubling how quiet the Dolphins have been when it comes to finding offensive line help. The only think we can conclude when looking at the trifecta's limited moves to supplement the offensive line (CLICK HERE FOR THE STORY) is that they are either adamant about not overpaying marginal talent, or are targeting some elite prospects with their top four picks in April's draft.

Considering Bill Parcells LOVES drafting offensive and defensive linemen, I have to believe the Dolphins hope to find a starting right tackle and left guard in the draft. That plan makes sense because it would create a young and talented line that will grow together, setting this franchise up for the next decade. But will the Dolphins really tip their hand in the draft, limiting their trade options and bargaining power by not signing a veteran offensive lineman who has the potential to start next season?

PROJECTION: I'm a firm believer that the Dolphins won't be able to identify a good quarterback until they establish a strong offensive line. John Beck became rattled last season when teams started chipping away at the line and got to him with the blitz. By the Buffalo game Beck got spooked, and the Dolphins veterans knew they needed a change and called for the return of Cleo Lemon. I don't see much changing unless the Dolphins use some of their top picks to snag some of the elite offensive linemen in this draft.

According to most talent evaluators, this year’s class of tackles is the best in more than a decade. Most analysts believe that eight offensive linemen – Michigan's Jake Long, Boise State’s Ryan Clady, Pittsburgh’s Jeff Otah, Boston College’s Gosder Cherilus, USC’s Sam Baker, Vanderbilt’s Chris Williams, Kansas’ Anthony Collins and Virginia Branden Albert – will be amongst the draft’s top 60 selections if injuries and character concerns don't drag them down. The Dolphins will have an opportunity to take one, if not two of these guys with their three picks in rounds one and two.

Because the Dolphins don't have a chance in hell of moving out of the No. 1 pick, if Parcells wants Long, who is projected as a better right tackle than left by many draftniks, they would have to use it to get him. He won't slip past Kansas City at No. 5. I'm actually in favor of taking Jake Long at No. 1 because I believe its a lot harder to find a franchise offensive tackle than a franchise DE/LB like Chris Long.

Otah is my favorite tackle in this draft because he's a mauling blocker, which is what you like on the right side of an offensive line. I'm told Otah dominated Chris Long this past season and I'd love to see that game. Albert is the only elite guard of this draft, and using the first pick in the second round on this Al Groh product would be wise, but he might not be on the board by then. For the record, I don't think there's a school out there that develops better offensive linemen than Virginia.

If the Dolphins wait till the second day of the draft to address the holes on offensive line, Nebraska's Carl Nicks, Virginia Tech's Duane Brown, USC's Drew Radovich and Chilo Rachal, Newberry's Heath Benedict, Rutgers' Jeremy Zuttah, Georgia's Chester Adams, Arizona State's Mike Pollack, Pittsburgh's Mike McGlynn (really liked his aggressive style at the Senior Bowl) and Toledo's John Greco could be good finds in rounds four and on.

All fit the trifecta's size, arm length, and athleticism criteria, but can the Dolphins really bank on building a line in the draft? Why not act now?

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/draft_issues/index.html
 
well,one thing is for certain,we do need to solidify our O-Line....as of right now,we have Satele&Carey,and if Justin Smiley can back up his talk,him too. now i'd like for us to get Jake Long,but if we don't,then as has been said before,there are other OT in this draft we can get,but we certainly do need to solidify our line.
 
If Carey moves to RT then we have to go LT at #32. If Carey stays at LT then we could roll the bones and wait until #57. That seems risky to me. All of this assumes that we pass on JLong. If you like variables then you have to love this OL situation, JLong and Carey being ground zero. I still keep going back to Sam Baker or Anthony Collins at #32, Cherilius if Carey stays at LT. I keep thinking about it and I'm making very little progress. I'd still like to see Heath Benedict at #3 or #4, but what do you do if Justin King or John Carlson are on the board. Etc., Etc.
 
We need to address our only strength and "finish the damn line" this girth of talent is a freaking gift...
 
If Carey moves to RT then we have to go LT at #32. If Carey stays at LT then we could roll the bones and wait until #57. That seems risky to me. All of this assumes that we pass on JLong. If you like variables then you have to love this OL situation, JLong and Carey being ground zero. I still keep going back to Sam Baker or Anthony Collins at #32, Cherilius if Carey stays at LT. I keep thinking about it and I'm making very little progress. I'd still like to see Heath Benedict at #3 or #4, but what do you do if Justin King or John Carlson are on the board. Etc., Etc.
You go with who is the higher rated player on your board, regardless of position.
 
if we somehow manage to get Jeff Otah and Brendan Albert, our OL is SET.

i dont care what the draft numbers say...there is NOBODY worth the #1 pick, $30 million guaranteed in this draft. Even if all some team offers us is their #12 pick, and a 3rd rounder....id take it.

that way we can get Jeff Otah at #12, and perhaps trade out of #32 and our other 3rd rounder, to get another 1st to get Brendan Albert.

if that doesnt happen, then id rather Jake Long and at #32 perhaps Baker, who i think can play LG.


and also, i wouldnt be opposed to drafting Jeff Otah #1 overall, what on earth makes Jake Long the #1 overall?...when Otah dominated the BEST defensive end in the draft.
 
if we somehow manage to get Jeff Otah and Brendan Albert, our OL is SET.

i dont care what the draft numbers say...there is NOBODY worth the #1 pick, $30 million guaranteed in this draft. Even if all some team offers us is their #12 pick, and a 3rd rounder....id take it.

that way we can get Jeff Otah at #12, and perhaps trade out of #32 and our other 3rd rounder, to get another 1st to get Brendan Albert.

if that doesnt happen, then id rather Jake Long and at #32 perhaps Baker, who i think can play LG.


and also, i wouldnt be opposed to drafting Jeff Otah #1 overall, what on earth makes Jake Long the #1 overall?...when Otah dominated the BEST defensive end in the draft.

You wouldn't be opposed to drafting someone who gave up 8.5 sacks last year at #1 overall?
 
Matt Ryan threw 19 INTs last year....

Chris Long is great, but Otah dominated him.

Jake Long is great, but Vernon Gholston dominated him.

Glen Dorsey has injury issues

McFadden....well, we cant afford him and Ronnie.



so we pretty much have no choice. Ill even take Brendan Albert #1 overall, because frankly...nobody is worth #1 overall money, so why not spend it on the best OL in the draft? Brendan Albert.
 
Well, all I can say is that I agree there isn't really a true #1 guy this year.
It figures, the fins actually have the #1 pick and there just isn't that stand out player to take.
It's like when we had the 2nd pick...of course Matt Leinart decided to stay for his senior season, or else we might have gotten him. But hey, we did get Ronnie. =)

I say go J. Long. If he turns out like J. Thomas ...then woohoo! If he ends up a starting RT for 10 yrs, thats not so bad either.
Picking number one sure can seem like more of a burden than a blessing. =)
 
Based on standard 53 man rosters and BP's past we will probably carry 9 OL.
1. LT Vernon Carey
2. C Samson Satele
3. RG Justin Smiley
4. G/C Drew Mormino
5. T Julius Wilson
6. G Ikechuku Ndukwe (Nice project player)
7. VET (Jason Fabini)
8. DRAFT
9. DRAFT

Do you see what I see? We have a huge gapping whole on the OL. More than likely we will be filling 2-3 spots with the draft. What two OL do you foresee we take in this draft?

I predict a possibility of Anthony Collins, Branden Albert or Ghosder Cherilus with pick #32and someone in the middle rounds. I also see us selecting Shawn Murphy out of Utah State with one of our 6-7th round picks.
 
Based on standard 53 man rosters and BP's past we will probably carry 9 OL.
1. LT Vernon Carey
2. C Samson Satele
3. RG Justin Smiley
4. G/C Drew Mormino
5. T Julius Wilson
6. G Ikechuku Ndukwe (Nice project player)
7. VET (Jason Fabini)
8. DRAFT
9. DRAFT

Do you see what I see? We have a huge gapping whole on the OL. More than likely we will be filling 2-3 spots with the draft. What two OL do you foresee we take in this draft?

I predict a possibility of Anthony Collins, Branden Albert or Ghosder Cherilus with pick #32and someone in the middle rounds. I also see us selecting Shawn Murphy out of Utah State with one of our 6-7th round picks.

I don't disagree. :up:
 
Matt Ryan threw 19 INTs last year....

Chris Long is great, but Otah dominated him.

Jake Long is great, but Vernon Gholston dominated him.

Glen Dorsey has injury issues

McFadden....well, we cant afford him and Ronnie.



so we pretty much have no choice. Ill even take Brendan Albert #1 overall, because frankly...nobody is worth #1 overall money, so why not spend it on the best OL in the draft? Brendan Albert.


That's defeatist! besides, Long had control over Gholston most of the game. he only allowed that one sack early on. Check it out on youtube.
 
That's defeatist! besides, Long had control over Gholston most of the game. he only allowed that one sack early on. Check it out on youtube.

Off topic yes - but I think it's pretty freaking awesome that you have a Glengarry Glen Ross sig block :lol:
 
this girth of talent is a freaking gift...

here here.

That's why I hope we take advantage of it. I'd be somewhat disapointed if we didn't use 2 of the first 4 picks on O-line. I'd be down right pissed and may fight somebody if we didn't use at least 1 pick (with the first four picks) on it.
 
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