Well the Saints game was certainly tough to watch unfold. Its so sick sitting there with a lead, yet knowing were going to lose. From the moment Sharper scored with that INT return I had the most horrible feeling in my gut as I knew what was about to happen and Im completely incapable of stopping it. It was simply a matter of WHEN the Saints would capture the lead and how we would fail to regain it.
Although I must say I had one last glimmer of hope come back to me after we held them to that FG to keep it a 40-34 game. I thought there was a decent chance we could score with between 0-20 seconds remaining to win. Because face it, if we score with anything more than 30 seconds or so left and take a 1 point lead, you know the Saints wouldve gotten into FG range with ease.
Anyways, here is my list of people to blame in specific order and how this thing went wrong.
1) Zebras -- 3 critical calls that totally punched us in the gut and cost us the game, along with another bad call that didnt cost us as dearly, but certainly didnt help our cause. 2 of the 3 critical calls were shady and didnt go our way and one of them was nothing more than absolute ****ing bs. We will save that one for last because it leads into culprit number 2.
A) The bess fumble was pretty close to bs. The play couldve gone either way and Im not so sure that the defenders hands could be seen NOT touching the ball and jarring it loose until Bess' knee was down. Either way, Im not going to call this one utter bs because it was close and could go either way.
B) The Sharper score I feel the same way. Id like to have gotten a real good look at it. But, what can you do? Its possible he fumbled that ball before he crossed the plane, but too tough to tell. Can we get a ****ing break though? If the ref says it was a fumble live, they arent going to overturn it. ****. When that play happened, I knew we were doomed.
C) The Camarillo play didnt kill us but, it was utter bs from the standpoint that it was so SUBJECTIVE. How the **** can the official claim beyond any doubt that he KNEW Camarillo tossed that ball on purpose? He cant. **** that official. It was a bs call but, its a 5 yarder that we need to be able to overcome. Certainly wasnt a backbreaker so Im not going to base the loss on it.
D) Finally the play I felt was the most utter and complete BS ever and most certainly cost us the game.......the play right before half. First of all, Im still not certain it was even a catch. Sure he catches it but, the way they have been calling this "player has to go to the ground with possession" bs lately, you could make an argument it wasnt even a catch.
But, I wont harp on that. Here is my issue. He CLEARLY dosent score on the play. The Saints had ZERO TIMEOUTS. Why the **** cant the league put something in place where you can go ahead and assume that the Saints wont be able to spike the ball had the ****ING REF GOT THE CALL RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE????? You want to tell me they cant assume that. Fine. Then how the **** are they assuming Camarillo threw that ball out of bounds on purpose?
The thing is if the official simply makes the correct call to begin with, time runs out. Then they can go to the replay to see if he scored. If he scored, then they can award the Saints the points and put 5 seconds back on, and have them kick the extra point and then kickoff. Fine. No harm.
Which is why the ref shouldve been smart enough to go ahead and say he was short, knowing they would review it anyways and if he scores no one will get ripped, but if he didnt score, no one will get ripped either.
The score shouldve been 24-3 at the half. Period. We got so jobbed right there on that ****ing play and the difference between a 2 possession game and 3 possession going into the half was ****ing huge vs. the Saints. Bottom line......official gets that call right during live play, then the phins win.
The NFL needs to look into doing something to correct that bs and say there is like a runoff of time depending on how far the players are from the LOS when that happens, unless of course they want to call a TO to keep there from being a runoff. Of course the Saints had no timeouts left and its safe to assume the runoff would be at least 5 seconds for being that far away from the catch.
Anyways, this brings me to culprit #2.........Tony Sparano.
Yep. We have a dumb ****ing jock for a head coach. This is 2 games now this moron has cost us. Is he a good coach from a motivator standpoint? Sure. But, the guy simply cannot manage games.
What the **** was that calling a timeout there? Be glad were going in up 18. And thats assuming they can execute that FG under such pressure to get it off with just 5 seconds left and the clock starting when the ball is ready for play. Just a dumb move by a stupid individual.
As far as Im concerned both he and Henning should be fired just based on that Colts game. That run call on 3rd and 6 with the score tied, knowing you have to either get a FG with no time left or a TD with little time left to win the game was one of the stupidest calls of all time.
Not only that, Chad Pennington had already completed 3 3rd and mediums on that drive to keep it going. I had just said to a friend that this is what Pennington used to do to us with the Jets. Close or tied game he would kill us on critical 3rd and mediums several times within a late 4th qtr drive to either win or seal a win.
On top of that the Colts D line was completely gassed and there was no way they were going to get pressure. No way they were going to stop us.
Only way we dont get that first down by passing the ball was if he threw it to Ted Ginn and he dropped it. Stupid call.
But, believe it or not that might not have been as stupid as calling that timeout on Sunday.
Reality is folks, you have to be a true ****ing moron to make those 2 mistakes already in the season. Head coach is not a position for dumb jocks.
Let him coach the OL. We need a smart man to manage these games for us. We could be 4-2 with wins over the Colts and Saints. Wow.
Culprit #3.....Ted Ginn Jr.
He ****ing blows. Cut him. **** him. A couple weeks back you guys wouldve traded him for anything. He makes one big play and all of the sudden you didnt want Cribbs for him. Get real. Cribbs is a much better returner and even though he is still developing as a receiver, he cant be worse than Ginn. Catch a ****ing ball dude. Thats 2 games that moron has cost us as well. That Sharper play that was a backbreaker was because Ginn cant ****ing catch.
Culprits 4 and 5........Crowder and Porter.
Will these guys ever shut the **** up? I swear they should play for the Jets the way they talk and NEVER back it up. Porter played great for half a season last year. So what. When we were winning down the stretch, he went ghost like Jason Taylor in the 4th qtr of a Jets game. We shouldve traded that bum for a 3rd rounder if we couldve gotten it. Probably couldve gotten a 2nd. Shut the **** up and make a play would ya please?
And Crowder. Mike Bell gave him some balls to sniff. Crowder sounded jealous when he made that statement. Maybe he wants to sniff Peezy's nuts. **** Crowder. He ****ing blows. Mike Bell made him look like a stripper trying to pick up Pac Man's money on that one play. Did you guys see him get destroyed?
Culprit #6 Bill Parcells.
Pat White blows. Tell Parcells that Rutgers, Marshall, and East Carolina arent on our schedule. If they were, Pat White might be useful. Thats all.
Culprit #7 Ronnie Brown....... Just joking. Had to lighten it up a little. Actually Im just feeding on the perception that somehow I hate Ronnie. I dont. Good player. He didnt do much Sunday, but he certainly didnt beat us like those guys did.
I will say this though. For those of you who watch the games and still want to try and tell me Ricky isnt every bit as good as the Ricky that rushed for 18 hun a few years ago.......Get real. That dude is a ****ing animal. 2nd best RB in the league behing Peterson who is on another level. Did you see that speed? Ronnie dosent have that gear folks. And Ricky is every bit as powerful. FEED RICKY. Feed the BEAST. That dude should be getting 20 carries a game in standard formations and let Ronnie get his stuff out of the Wildcat. Ricky needs to be featured in a big way. He is a ****ing weapon. Give RICKY THE ROCK. ****, we probably win that game sunday if we just give Ricky the ball 15 times in the 2nd half.
I will end this post with a what to do now. Ya know what. We were 2-4 last year. If we can get to 4-4 just like last year we will be 4-0 in the division and facing some much easier games down the stretch.
Just like I said 3 weeks ago when we were 0-3.
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f2/if-we-can-turn-it-around-it-all-starts-today-258537.html
The plan is still the same. Win the next 2 and its not over folks. The Saints game was interconference too. So if San Diego stays out of our way, we can still win wildcard tiebreaks. But, if we go 5-1 or 6-0 in the division, we may not need the wildcard. I know the Pats are tough, but we can beat them. ****, we can beat anybody.
Look at it this way.....Beat the Jets. Get to 3-4. Then we will talk. We have wins vs. Tenn, Jacks, Tampa, Carolina, and Buffalo in the bag. Houston will be a critical tough game. They have a good TE so we know we wont stop them.(Crowder, Wilson, Bell all ****ing blow) But, we could score on them. Beatable team. Get to 3-4 and win those 5 gimmie games. Thats 8 wins. Then we can try and negotiate 3 wins out of Houston, Pittsburgh, and the two NE games.
ITS NOT OVER!!!!
Although I must say I had one last glimmer of hope come back to me after we held them to that FG to keep it a 40-34 game. I thought there was a decent chance we could score with between 0-20 seconds remaining to win. Because face it, if we score with anything more than 30 seconds or so left and take a 1 point lead, you know the Saints wouldve gotten into FG range with ease.
Anyways, here is my list of people to blame in specific order and how this thing went wrong.
1) Zebras -- 3 critical calls that totally punched us in the gut and cost us the game, along with another bad call that didnt cost us as dearly, but certainly didnt help our cause. 2 of the 3 critical calls were shady and didnt go our way and one of them was nothing more than absolute ****ing bs. We will save that one for last because it leads into culprit number 2.
A) The bess fumble was pretty close to bs. The play couldve gone either way and Im not so sure that the defenders hands could be seen NOT touching the ball and jarring it loose until Bess' knee was down. Either way, Im not going to call this one utter bs because it was close and could go either way.
B) The Sharper score I feel the same way. Id like to have gotten a real good look at it. But, what can you do? Its possible he fumbled that ball before he crossed the plane, but too tough to tell. Can we get a ****ing break though? If the ref says it was a fumble live, they arent going to overturn it. ****. When that play happened, I knew we were doomed.
C) The Camarillo play didnt kill us but, it was utter bs from the standpoint that it was so SUBJECTIVE. How the **** can the official claim beyond any doubt that he KNEW Camarillo tossed that ball on purpose? He cant. **** that official. It was a bs call but, its a 5 yarder that we need to be able to overcome. Certainly wasnt a backbreaker so Im not going to base the loss on it.
D) Finally the play I felt was the most utter and complete BS ever and most certainly cost us the game.......the play right before half. First of all, Im still not certain it was even a catch. Sure he catches it but, the way they have been calling this "player has to go to the ground with possession" bs lately, you could make an argument it wasnt even a catch.
But, I wont harp on that. Here is my issue. He CLEARLY dosent score on the play. The Saints had ZERO TIMEOUTS. Why the **** cant the league put something in place where you can go ahead and assume that the Saints wont be able to spike the ball had the ****ING REF GOT THE CALL RIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE????? You want to tell me they cant assume that. Fine. Then how the **** are they assuming Camarillo threw that ball out of bounds on purpose?
The thing is if the official simply makes the correct call to begin with, time runs out. Then they can go to the replay to see if he scored. If he scored, then they can award the Saints the points and put 5 seconds back on, and have them kick the extra point and then kickoff. Fine. No harm.
Which is why the ref shouldve been smart enough to go ahead and say he was short, knowing they would review it anyways and if he scores no one will get ripped, but if he didnt score, no one will get ripped either.
The score shouldve been 24-3 at the half. Period. We got so jobbed right there on that ****ing play and the difference between a 2 possession game and 3 possession going into the half was ****ing huge vs. the Saints. Bottom line......official gets that call right during live play, then the phins win.
The NFL needs to look into doing something to correct that bs and say there is like a runoff of time depending on how far the players are from the LOS when that happens, unless of course they want to call a TO to keep there from being a runoff. Of course the Saints had no timeouts left and its safe to assume the runoff would be at least 5 seconds for being that far away from the catch.
Anyways, this brings me to culprit #2.........Tony Sparano.
Yep. We have a dumb ****ing jock for a head coach. This is 2 games now this moron has cost us. Is he a good coach from a motivator standpoint? Sure. But, the guy simply cannot manage games.
What the **** was that calling a timeout there? Be glad were going in up 18. And thats assuming they can execute that FG under such pressure to get it off with just 5 seconds left and the clock starting when the ball is ready for play. Just a dumb move by a stupid individual.
As far as Im concerned both he and Henning should be fired just based on that Colts game. That run call on 3rd and 6 with the score tied, knowing you have to either get a FG with no time left or a TD with little time left to win the game was one of the stupidest calls of all time.
Not only that, Chad Pennington had already completed 3 3rd and mediums on that drive to keep it going. I had just said to a friend that this is what Pennington used to do to us with the Jets. Close or tied game he would kill us on critical 3rd and mediums several times within a late 4th qtr drive to either win or seal a win.
On top of that the Colts D line was completely gassed and there was no way they were going to get pressure. No way they were going to stop us.
Only way we dont get that first down by passing the ball was if he threw it to Ted Ginn and he dropped it. Stupid call.
But, believe it or not that might not have been as stupid as calling that timeout on Sunday.
Reality is folks, you have to be a true ****ing moron to make those 2 mistakes already in the season. Head coach is not a position for dumb jocks.
Let him coach the OL. We need a smart man to manage these games for us. We could be 4-2 with wins over the Colts and Saints. Wow.
Culprit #3.....Ted Ginn Jr.
He ****ing blows. Cut him. **** him. A couple weeks back you guys wouldve traded him for anything. He makes one big play and all of the sudden you didnt want Cribbs for him. Get real. Cribbs is a much better returner and even though he is still developing as a receiver, he cant be worse than Ginn. Catch a ****ing ball dude. Thats 2 games that moron has cost us as well. That Sharper play that was a backbreaker was because Ginn cant ****ing catch.
Culprits 4 and 5........Crowder and Porter.
Will these guys ever shut the **** up? I swear they should play for the Jets the way they talk and NEVER back it up. Porter played great for half a season last year. So what. When we were winning down the stretch, he went ghost like Jason Taylor in the 4th qtr of a Jets game. We shouldve traded that bum for a 3rd rounder if we couldve gotten it. Probably couldve gotten a 2nd. Shut the **** up and make a play would ya please?
And Crowder. Mike Bell gave him some balls to sniff. Crowder sounded jealous when he made that statement. Maybe he wants to sniff Peezy's nuts. **** Crowder. He ****ing blows. Mike Bell made him look like a stripper trying to pick up Pac Man's money on that one play. Did you guys see him get destroyed?
Culprit #6 Bill Parcells.
Pat White blows. Tell Parcells that Rutgers, Marshall, and East Carolina arent on our schedule. If they were, Pat White might be useful. Thats all.
Culprit #7 Ronnie Brown....... Just joking. Had to lighten it up a little. Actually Im just feeding on the perception that somehow I hate Ronnie. I dont. Good player. He didnt do much Sunday, but he certainly didnt beat us like those guys did.
I will say this though. For those of you who watch the games and still want to try and tell me Ricky isnt every bit as good as the Ricky that rushed for 18 hun a few years ago.......Get real. That dude is a ****ing animal. 2nd best RB in the league behing Peterson who is on another level. Did you see that speed? Ronnie dosent have that gear folks. And Ricky is every bit as powerful. FEED RICKY. Feed the BEAST. That dude should be getting 20 carries a game in standard formations and let Ronnie get his stuff out of the Wildcat. Ricky needs to be featured in a big way. He is a ****ing weapon. Give RICKY THE ROCK. ****, we probably win that game sunday if we just give Ricky the ball 15 times in the 2nd half.
I will end this post with a what to do now. Ya know what. We were 2-4 last year. If we can get to 4-4 just like last year we will be 4-0 in the division and facing some much easier games down the stretch.
Just like I said 3 weeks ago when we were 0-3.
http://www.finheaven.com/forums/f2/if-we-can-turn-it-around-it-all-starts-today-258537.html
The plan is still the same. Win the next 2 and its not over folks. The Saints game was interconference too. So if San Diego stays out of our way, we can still win wildcard tiebreaks. But, if we go 5-1 or 6-0 in the division, we may not need the wildcard. I know the Pats are tough, but we can beat them. ****, we can beat anybody.
Look at it this way.....Beat the Jets. Get to 3-4. Then we will talk. We have wins vs. Tenn, Jacks, Tampa, Carolina, and Buffalo in the bag. Houston will be a critical tough game. They have a good TE so we know we wont stop them.(Crowder, Wilson, Bell all ****ing blow) But, we could score on them. Beatable team. Get to 3-4 and win those 5 gimmie games. Thats 8 wins. Then we can try and negotiate 3 wins out of Houston, Pittsburgh, and the two NE games.
ITS NOT OVER!!!!